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One thing nobody's mentioned yet - get those returns filed ASAP because if the IRS files a Substitute for Return (SFR) for you, they'll only use standard deductions and won't include any credits you might be eligible for. They basically give you the worst possible tax situation. I learned this the hard way when they did an SFR for my 2019 taxes. They said I owed $11,400 when I actually only owed about $4,200 when I finally filed properly with all my legitimate deductions and credits.
Thanks for bringing this up - I had no idea they could just file a return for me! Do you know how long it typically takes before they do that? I'm trying to get all my paperwork together and I'm hoping I haven't hit that point yet.
It varies, but they typically start the SFR process 1-3 years after the return was due. Since your 2021 return would have been due in April 2022, they might be preparing an SFR soon if they haven't already. You can find out by requesting an account transcript from the IRS website. If you see a code 150 with "Substitute for Return" next to it, that means they've already filed one for you. But even if they have, you can still file your own return which will replace their SFR and potentially reduce what you owe significantly.
Has anyone used one of those tax relief companies that advertise on the radio? They claim they can settle with the IRS for "pennies on the dollar"... wondering if that's legitimate for situations like this.
Be very careful with those tax relief companies. What they're referring to is an Offer in Compromise (OIC), which is legitimate but rarely approved. In 2020, only about 30% of OICs were accepted. These companies often charge thousands of dollars upfront with no guarantee of results. They're essentially offering what you can do yourself by filling out Form 656. To qualify for an OIC, you generally need to prove you can't pay through an installment agreement AND the full amount would cause financial hardship. For someone with steady salary income like the original poster, an OIC is unlikely to be approved unless there are significant other financial hardships.
The backslash in Box 14 is probably nothing to worry about. My company uses ADP for payroll and sometimes their system puts weird placeholders in empty fields. As long as your income and withholding amounts match what you actually earned, you're good. Box 14 is just "other information" and doesn't even get reported to the IRS in most cases - it's just there to give you information that might be relevant for state taxes or your own records. If you're using tax software like TurboTax or H&R Block, you can probably just ignore it.
Does anyone know if you need to enter Box 14 info into TaxAct? Their interface is confusing me because it keeps asking about "other income" and I'm not sure if that's where Box 14 stuff goes?
For TaxAct specifically, you usually don't need to enter Box 14 items unless they're specifically asked for elsewhere in the program. Box 14 is mainly informational and used for things that don't fit elsewhere on the W2. The "other income" section in TaxAct is typically for reporting income that wasn't reported on a W2 or 1099 - like cash jobs, jury duty pay, etc. It's not where you'd put Box 14 items from your W2. If a Box 14 item is relevant to your taxes (like state disability insurance that might be deductible), TaxAct will usually ask about it specifically in the state tax section or deductions area.
My W2 had something similar last year but it was the letter 'X' instead of a backslash. Turned out my employer's payroll system just puts placeholders in empty fields. I ignored it and filed my taxes without any problems. As others have said, Box 14 is just for informational stuff that doesn't affect your federal taxes. I'd say don't worry about it unless you get a notice from the IRS (which is extremely unlikely for something like this).
I work in payroll and can confirm this is exactly what's happening. Different payroll systems use different placeholder characters for null values. Some use dashes, others use backslashes or X's. It's just a quirk of the software and means there's no data to report in that field.
Does anyone know if scholarships count as "income earned in a state"? I get a scholarship from my home state (Ohio) but attend school in Pennsylvania. Not sure how to report this on state returns.
Great question! Scholarships are treated differently than earned income. If your scholarship is tax-free (used for qualified education expenses like tuition and required books), it's not reported as income on any state return. If part of your scholarship is taxable (used for room and board, for example), it's generally considered income in your state of residency, not the state that provided the scholarship. So in your case, if you're a Pennsylvania resident for tax purposes (which most full-time students are for their school state), any taxable portion of your scholarship would be reported on your PA return, even though the scholarship came from Ohio.
Lol I'm in the same boat but more complicated - I'm from California, go to school in Massachusetts, did a summer internship in New York, AND did some online freelance work while traveling in Europe for 3 weeks. My tax situation is a complete disaster this year š
Omg that sounds like a nightmare! Have you figured out how to handle it? I'm stressed just about my two states!
It's been... a process lol. I ended up paying for a consultation with an accountant who specializes in multi-state issues. Definitely worth the $150 for the peace of mind. He said I need to file: - Resident return for Massachusetts (my tax home as a student) - Non-resident returns for California and New York - And the freelance income gets reported on all three (but with credits to avoid triple taxation) The European travel didn't matter tax-wise since I wasn't there long enough to trigger any foreign filing requirements. My advice: if you have more than 2 states, just pay a professional. The stress reduction is worth it!
One thing to check that nobody mentioned yet - look at Box 8 on your W-2 "Allocated tips." Sometimes employers will put an amount there if they think you underreported tips, and you have to pay additional Social Security and Medicare taxes on those allocated tips. Also, remember that if your total income from ALL sources goes over certain thresholds, you start losing deductions and credits. This includes the Earned Income Credit that someone mentioned above, but also potentially others depending on your filing status and total income. The tax code basically penalizes you as you make more money by taking away benefits designed for lower-income workers. It's frustrating but that's how the system works.
I checked Box 8 and there aren't any allocated tips listed, so that's not the issue. I think it really is just about hitting those income thresholds like you and others mentioned. It's just so frustrating that working harder and making more money can actually leave you worse off financially in some cases. I guess I need to be more strategic about retirement contributions and other pre-tax deductions going forward.
You're absolutely right to be thinking about strategic tax planning. The tax code has these "cliffs" where earning just $1 more can cost you hundreds in lost credits or deductions. For next year, definitely look into maximizing pre-tax contributions like 401k, HSA if you have access to one, and dependent care FSA if applicable. These reduce your adjusted gross income which is what most of these phase-outs are based on. Also, if your full-time job offers any fringe benefits that are tax-free (like transit benefits), take advantage of those too. The system doesn't make it easy to understand these effects until after you've already been hit with them, unfortunately.
Has anyone noticed that if you claim too many business deductions on Schedule C for self-employment, the IRS now flags your return for additional review? My friend works at a tax prep place and says they're seeing way more audits for servers and bartenders who try to offset their tip income with questionable business expenses.
This is important to note! The IRS has been focusing more on small business compliance. If you're reporting tips, don't try to create fake deductions to offset them. Only claim legitimate business expenses you can document (like purchased uniforms, special shoes, tools you buy yourself, etc). The risk of audit isn't worth trying to save a few hundred dollars. And with the IRS getting additional funding, they're increasing audit rates for the first time in years.
Carmen Ortiz
One thing nobody's mentioned yet - check if you selected "Student" on your W-4 form. This is a common mistake that can cause underwithholding. Being a student doesn't automatically change your tax withholding - in fact, there's no checkbox for "student" on the W-4 at all! Also, at your income level (~$115k), you're in a higher tax bracket than you might realize. The education credits like American Opportunity Credit and Lifetime Learning Credit start phasing out at incomes over $80k for single filers. Your education expenses might not be giving you as much tax benefit as you expect. I'd recommend running a "paycheck checkup" using the IRS withholding calculator and then submitting a fresh W-4 to your payroll department. Make sure to check Box 2 if you have multiple jobs, and consider adding an additional dollar amount to withhold on Line 4(c).
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MidnightRider
ā¢This is so helpful! I had no idea the education credits phase out at higher incomes. Is there any way to still benefit from education expenses if you're above the income limits? I'm in a similar situation making around $105k and taking night classes.
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Carmen Ortiz
ā¢There are still some options available even above the phase-out limits. While the American Opportunity Credit and Lifetime Learning Credit may not be available at your income level, you might qualify for the Tuition and Fees Deduction, which has higher income limits. Another option to consider is whether your education might qualify as a work-related education expense, which could potentially be deductible as an employee business expense in some situations. The rules are strict though - the education must be required by your employer or by law to maintain your current position, or it must maintain or improve skills needed in your current job.
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Andre Laurent
have you checked if ur employer is taking out state taxes correctly too? i had a similar issue and turned out my employer was withholding for the wrong state (i live near a state border and work remotely). ended up owing federal AND state taxes, it was a mess š© when i finally figured it out i had to fill out a new w4 AND a state withholding form. my paycheck went down by like $200 but at least i wont owe a huge amount next year lol
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Zara Ahmed
ā¢I didn't even think about that! I live in Illinois but my company is based in Wisconsin. I'll definitely check my state withholding too. How bad was the hit when you fixed both state and federal withholding? I'm worried about my take-home pay dropping too much all at once.
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