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One important thing to remember with code N recharacterizations: make sure you're also accounting for any earnings or losses that occurred before the recharacterization. Those need to be included in the amount you recharacterize from Roth to Traditional. For example, if you contributed $6,000 to your Roth IRA but it grew to $6,200 by the time you recharacterized it, you should have moved the full $6,200 to the Traditional IRA. Then when you did the backdoor conversion back to Roth, that full amount (including earnings) would be potentially taxable (depending on your overall IRA situation). The 1099-R should show the total amount recharacterized including any earnings.
Thanks for bringing this up! My situation was slightly different - my Roth contribution actually lost about $300 in value before I realized I was over the income limit and needed to recharacterize. So I moved less than my original contribution to the Traditional IRA. Will that cause any issues? Should the loss be reflected somewhere on my tax forms?
No, that won't cause any issues. You're doing everything correctly by recharacterizing the reduced amount. The loss occurred while the money was in the Roth IRA, and when you recharacterize, it's as if you originally contributed that lower amount to the Traditional IRA instead. When you later converted that amount back to a Roth via the backdoor, you'd only convert the lower amount. The 1099-R with code N should show the actual amount that was recharacterized (the lower amount after the loss). This loss doesn't get reported separately on your tax return - it just means you're moving and potentially paying taxes on a smaller amount during the backdoor conversion portion.
Has anyone used TurboTax for reporting these recharacterizations with code N? I'm seeing a different question than what the original poster mentioned in TaxSlayer, and I'm not sure if I'm entering everything correctly.
I used TurboTax for exactly this situation. When you enter the 1099-R with code N, it will ask something like "Did you move this money to another retirement account?" rather than specifically using the word "rollover." Just answer "yes" to that question. TurboTax will then take you through additional screens to confirm it was a recharacterization. Make sure you also complete Form 8606 if you did the backdoor Roth conversion afterward. TurboTax has a separate section for entering that conversion transaction. It's a bit hidden in the Deductions & Credits section under "Retirement & Investments.
Don't overlook the Congressional Research Service (CRS) reports! They often have comprehensive summaries of tax credits by sector. The report titled "Energy Tax Policy: Historical Perspectives on and Current Status of Energy Tax Expenditures" was incredibly helpful for my energy policy work. It breaks down ALL business energy tax credits with their IRC sections, dollar values, and expiration dates. Also check out the Tax Foundation and the American Council for an Energy-Efficient Economy (ACEEE) - both have great compilations of energy-related tax incentives. Another trick is to look at the Joint Committee on Taxation's tax expenditure reports which quantify the fiscal impact of each credit.
Thanks! I didn't even think about CRS reports. How recent is the energy tax policy report you mentioned? And do you know if it covers the changes from the Inflation Reduction Act since those modified a bunch of the energy credits?
The most recent comprehensive CRS report was updated just a few months ago, so it definitely includes all the Inflation Reduction Act changes. It has a really helpful table comparing the pre-IRA and post-IRA versions of each credit with expiration dates. The report actually excels at showing the evolution of energy tax credits over time, which could be super valuable for your debate prep - especially when discussing the policy rationale behind various incentives. It also distinguishes between permanent features of the tax code versus temporary provisions, which is important when you're evaluating long-term energy policy impacts.
For debate prep specifically, don't forget to look at industry criticism of these tax credits too! Check out resources from API (American Petroleum Institute) for critiques of renewable credits, and conversely, look at SEIA (Solar Energy Industries Association) for advocacy of solar incentives and critiques of fossil fuel subsidies. Also, the Joint Committee on Taxation scores each tax expenditure with revenue impacts, which is crucial for cost-benefit analysis in your debate. Congressional Budget Office reports often evaluate the effectiveness of these credits too.
This is key advice. In my last policy debate, the other team destroyed us because they had industry critiques we weren't prepared for. The Heritage Foundation and Cato Institute also have analyses criticizing energy tax credits as inefficient. Do you know which recent JCT report has the most comprehensive scoring?
Has anyone looked into a fiscal sponsorship arrangement through your school? When I was running a service club in college, we operated under the university's nonprofit status instead of getting our own. We still had our own EIN for the club account, but because we were officially recognized by the university, we were covered under their exemption. I'd recommend talking to your student activities office or whatever department oversees campus organizations. They might already have a system in place for this exact situation.
This is really helpful! I hadn't thought about asking the university if we could operate under their nonprofit status. We are officially recognized by the school - we have a faculty advisor and everything. Do you happen to know if we would still need our own EIN in this case, or would we use the university's for banking purposes?
Yes, you'll likely still need your own EIN for banking purposes, but the tax exemption would flow through from the university. When we set ours up, we filled out an SS-4 form to get our EIN, specifically noting we were a student organization affiliated with the university. The key is to get formal documentation from your school stating that your organization is an official student group operating under their auspices. Your student activities office should have a standard process for this. With that documentation, you can open a bank account with your EIN but without having to file for separate tax-exempt status or pay the filing fee.
Careful with the "under $5,000" automatic exemption that some people mentioned. That only applies if you're ALWAYS going to stay under $5,000 in annual gross receipts. If you think you might exceed that amount in the future, you should file for formal exemption within 27 months of formation to have it apply retroactively. Also, don't forget to check if your state has separate requirements for nonprofit status! Federal 501(c)(3) status doesn't automatically exempt you from state taxes in all states.
Don't just pay what the auditor suggests without a fight! I've been through two audits and successfully appealed both times. The first step is requesting a conference with the auditor's manager. Be prepared with organized documentation and clear explanations of why your deductions were legitimate. If that doesn't work, file a formal appeal with the IRS Office of Appeals. They're separate from the examination division and often more reasonable. You have 30 days from the date of the audit findings to request this appeal. For your Schedule C businesses, the key is proving they were legitimate businesses operated with the intent to make a profit, not hobbies. Do you have business cards? A website? Marketing materials? Client communications? All of these help establish business legitimacy.
How much did appealing cost you? My CPA is charging $250/hour, and he estimates it would take at least 10-15 hours to prepare and handle an appeal. That's potentially $3,750, and with no guarantee of success. I'm trying to figure out if it's worth the fight or if I should cut my losses.
For my first audit appeal, I handled it myself and spent about $500 on organizing documents and preparing my case. It took about 25 hours of my time, but I saved almost $8,000 in disallowed deductions. For the second appeal, I hired a tax attorney for a flat fee of $2,500. This was more complex involving rental property deductions. We ended up saving about $12,000 in taxes, so the investment was worth it. The key is analyzing the potential savings versus the cost of fighting. If your total tax difference is less than $5,000, self-representation might make more sense. For larger amounts, professional help often pays for itself. Remember that if you win, you're not just saving the immediate tax bill but also setting precedent for future years of similar deductions.
If they denied your unreimbursed employee expenses, was that because you took them as miscellaneous itemized deductions on Schedule A? Those were suspended by the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act through 2025, so they're correctly disallowed if that's how you claimed them. For your Schedule C businesses, did the auditor give specific reasons for denying the expenses? Was it lack of documentation, or did they claim the business was a "hobby" rather than a legitimate profit-seeking venture? The distinction matters for how you might approach an appeal.
Not OP, but this is important info. Many people don't realize that employee business expenses (including home office for W-2 employees) are completely suspended right now. The only workaround is if your employer would provide an accountable plan where they reimburse you for these expenses.
JacksonHarris
Here's a quick breakdown on self-employment tax that helped me: 1) You pay SE tax if net earnings are $400+ 2) The rate is 15.3% (12.4% Social Security + 2.9% Medicare) 3) Social Security part only applies to first $168,600 (for 2025) 4) You can deduct business expenses before calculating SE tax 5) On Schedule 1, you can deduct 50% of SE tax from gross income Don't forget to make quarterly estimated tax payments to avoid underpayment penalties!
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Ryan Andre
ā¢Thanks for breaking this down! So for my $7,800, if I have say $1,200 in expenses for software, equipment etc., I'd pay the SE tax on $6,600, right? And should I be making quarterly payments even though I just started mid-year?
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JacksonHarris
ā¢Yes, if you have $7,800 in income and $1,200 in legitimate business expenses, you'd pay SE tax on the $6,600 net profit. The SE tax would be about $1,010 (15.3% of $6,600). For quarterly payments, if this is your first year with self-employment income, you might qualify for an exception to the penalty. However, it's generally a good idea to start making them as soon as you realize you'll have tax liability. For the current year, you can catch up by making larger payments in the remaining quarters. The IRS website has a form (1040-ES) to help calculate your estimated payments.
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Jeremiah Brown
A tip nobody mentioned yet: keep track of your MILEAGE if you drive for your business! This is huge for self-employment deductions. Current rate is like 67 cents per mile for 2025 (check the exact amount) and it adds up fast. Also, dont forget about the QBI deduction (Qualified Business Income) which lets you deduct up to 20% of your business profit depending on your total income. This is separate from expenses and the SE tax deduction!
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Royal_GM_Mark
ā¢The QBI deduction is amazing! But isn't there an income limit? I think I remember reading somewhere that it phases out if you make too much.
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