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Self-employment tax question: Better to buy an SUV and depreciate or lease and write off for my sole proprietorship?

I need some advice about the most tax-efficient way to add an SUV to my landscaping business. I'd be using it about 90% for business purposes (client visits, hauling small equipment, etc). The models I'm looking at run around $65K, or I could lease for roughly $750/month. I don't put enough miles on vehicles for the standard mileage deduction to make sense in my situation. What's the smartest approach tax-wise? Should I purchase outright and depreciate over time, or lease and deduct the payments? I've tried researching online but keep getting conflicting information. Also, since I operate as a sole proprietorship, can I purchase the SUV in my personal name and still claim the business deduction? Or does the vehicle title need to match my business name? I found some information about 2025 depreciation limits that shows: - $10,000 for year 1 - $16,000 for year 2 - $9,600 for year 3 - $5,760 for each year after Is this accurate? So over 5 years I could depreciate around $47,120 total? And do these limits only apply to SUVs under 6,000 lbs, or is the weight threshold only relevant for Section 179 deductions? Can I also deduct the loan interest on top of the depreciation? For leasing, I keep seeing references to an "inclusion amount" but I'm not clear what that means. For a $65K vehicle, the inclusion amount looks to be around $82. Does that mean I can write off the entire lease payment except for $82 total? Or is it $82 monthly? If I lease, can I deduct the upfront dealer fees and acquisition costs? And if I purchase the SUV at the end of the lease term, can I then depreciate the purchase amount?

Miguel Castro

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Something nobody's mentioned yet - if you're self-employed, the SUV choice can affect your self-employment taxes too. If buying means taking a large depreciation deduction upfront, that reduces both income tax AND self-employment tax. With leasing, you're spreading those deductions over time. In my case (plumbing business), I found buying a heavy SUV and taking Section 179 saved me about $4,200 in combined income and SE taxes in year one compared to leasing. But by year 3-5, the lease started looking better because of maintenance costs on the vehicle I owned. Also, don't forget to look at fuel efficiency differences. A gas-guzzling SUV that qualifies for bigger tax breaks might cost you more in the long run than a more efficient one with smaller tax advantages.

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Does this calculation change if you have an S-Corp instead of a sole proprietorship? I thought S-Corp owners don't pay SE tax on all business income?

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Miguel Castro

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You're right - with an S-Corp the calculation is different because you're only paying SE tax (actually FICA taxes in this case) on your reasonable salary, not on all business profits. In an S-Corp scenario, the depreciation deduction would still reduce your overall business income, but may not have the same SE tax savings as with a sole proprietorship where every dollar of business profit is subject to SE tax. However, you'd still get the income tax savings from the deduction. That's why some tax professionals recommend buying and taking large upfront deductions for sole proprietors, but might have different recommendations for S-Corp owners.

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Connor Byrne

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Has anyone here used an electric SUV for business? I'm wondering if the EV tax credits would change this calculation significantly. Like could I get the business vehicle deduction AND the clean vehicle credit?

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Yara Elias

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Yes! I got both for my business Tesla Model Y last year. The clean vehicle credit has some income limitations and vehicle price caps, but if you qualify, it's a straight $7,500 credit on top of your business deductions. The vehicle has to be under $80K for SUVs to qualify. Just remember that the business percentage applies to the depreciation/expenses, but the full clean vehicle credit applies regardless of business use (as long as you qualify based on income, etc).

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Connor Byrne

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That's awesome! Do you know if leasing an EV would still qualify for these benefits? I'm not sure I want to buy outright.

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Aside from the withholding aspect, remember that your bonus will increase your AGI (adjusted gross income), which could potentially impact some tax benefits that phase out at certain income levels. If you're close to any thresholds for deductions or credits, this bonus might affect those.

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I didn't even think about that! Are there any specific thresholds I should be aware of that a 5% bonus might push me over? With my $62,000 base plus roughly $3,100 bonus, I'll be at about $65,100.

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At your income level of around $65,100 after the bonus, you're still well within most common phaseout ranges, so I wouldn't be too concerned. The student loan interest deduction begins to phase out at $75,000 for single filers (2024 figures), and the Roth IRA contribution begins phasing out around $138,000. The Saver's Credit could be affected if you're close to the threshold, which is $36,500 for single filers, but you're well above that already. Child Tax Credit phaseouts start at much higher income levels ($200,000 for single filers), so those shouldn't be affected either. Overall, your 5% bonus is unlikely to push you over any significant tax benefit thresholds.

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Noah Irving

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Has anyone had their employer mess up the withholding on bonuses? Last year mine withheld at my regular rate instead of the 22% flat rate and I ended up owing a lot more than expected at tax time.

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Vanessa Chang

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Yep, happened to me too. My company gave us all "holiday gifts" that were actually bonuses but only withheld like 10%. Tax time was NOT fun. Now I always set aside extra whenever I get any kind of bonus or extra payment just to be safe.

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Here's a simple way to think about it - when you select "0" allowances, you're basically telling your employer "take out extra tax just to be safe." Each allowance you claim reduces the amount withheld. Most single people with one job should claim at least 1 allowance to account for the standard deduction (which is $13,850 for 2023). If you claim 0, you're likely overwithholding. But honestly, it depends on your comfort level with tax time. Some people prefer the "forced savings" of overwithholding to get a big refund. Others want their money throughout the year.

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Sean Kelly

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Would it be bad to change it to 1 halfway through the year? I've been at 0 since January.

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Not bad at all! You can change your withholding at any time during the year. If you switch from 0 to 1 allowance now, you'll just start having less tax withheld from your remaining paychecks this year. The withholding system is designed to adjust throughout the year. Your employer calculates the withholding for each individual paycheck based on your current W-4 information, not based on what you submitted in January. So making the change now just affects your future paychecks - it doesn't retroactively change anything.

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Zara Mirza

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Are you getting paid a lot more at this new job compared to your campus jobs? Because tax withholding is based on your projected annual income. If you were making like $15/hr part-time before and now you're making $25/hr full-time, you're in a higher tax bracket so they take out more.

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Luca Russo

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This is the most likely answer. I remember the shock when I went from my $12/hr campus job to my first salaried position. Suddenly I was seeing hundreds in taxes instead of like $30-40 per check. Welcome to adult life lol

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Sofia Peña

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Something important that nobody mentioned yet - check your last paystub from 2023 if you have it. It should show year-to-date earnings and withholdings which will have most of the information you need for filing. Some tax software lets you file with your last paystub if you can't get your W-2. Also, the deadline to file 2023 taxes is April 15, 2024, so you still have time to sort this out!

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I think I still have my last paystub somewhere! Would the numbers on it match exactly what would be on my W-2 or are there sometimes differences? And is the tax software option something the IRS accepts as official?

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Sofia Peña

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The numbers on your last paystub may be close but not always exactly the same as your W-2. Sometimes there are year-end adjustments or benefits that affect the final numbers. Your paystub should show your gross wages, federal and state tax withholding, and Social Security and Medicare taxes withheld. Most tax software won't let you e-file without actual W-2 information, but you can use your paystub to file a Form 4852 (Substitute for W-2) if you absolutely cannot get your W-2. This is accepted by the IRS, but you should make every effort to get the actual W-2 first as filing with incorrect information could require you to file an amended return later.

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Aaron Boston

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quick question - what happens if i dont file? i worked at a restaurant for like 4 months last year but only made maybe $6000 total and they paid me mostly in cash except for the hourly minimum wage part. do i still need to file something?

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Amaya Watson

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Yes, you should still file. Even if you made under the filing threshold, you may be entitled to a refund of taxes that were withheld from your paychecks. Also, cash tips are still taxable income that legally needs to be reported.

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Has anyone tried just going to a local Taxpayer Assistance Center in person? I've heard they can sometimes pull up your account and explain things right there.

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Philip Cowan

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I had a great experience at my local office. The representative printed my full account transcript and walked me through every code and adjustment. So much easier than trying to figure it out myself. Just make sure you bring photo ID and your tax return copy.

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Thanks for the tips! I'll definitely call to make an appointment first. Good to know about bringing ID and my return copy too - wouldn't have thought to bring the actual return. I appreciate the advice about Form 8082 as well. I'll ask about that when I go in if I need to dispute anything. Three months isn't great but better than never resolving it!

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Caesar Grant

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Did you check if they applied your refund to any past-due federal debts? They can take your tax refund to offset things like back taxes, child support, student loans, or even some state debts without much notice. Check your transcript for a code 898 which would indicate an offset.

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Rita Jacobs

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I don't think I have any federal debts, but I hadn't considered that possibility. Is that something that would show up on the transcript with that specific code?

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Caesar Grant

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Yes, code 898 specifically indicates a refund offset. There will usually be an explanation with it showing what type of debt it was applied to (student loans, child support, etc.). There should also be a separate notice sent from the agency that received the money, but those sometimes arrive weeks after the IRS notice. If it was offset to pay a federal debt, you'd need to contact whichever agency received the payment (Dept of Education for student loans, Health & Human Services for child support, etc.) rather than the IRS, since the IRS just transfers the money but doesn't manage those debts.

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