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Just a heads up - make sure your space truly qualifies as "exclusively used" for business before claiming the home office deduction. I got audited last year because I claimed my guest bedroom as 100% business use, but I occasionally had family stay over. The IRS was not happy about that! If you're storing inventory in a space but also using it for personal purposes, you might not qualify. The space needs to be used ONLY for business.
Does that mean I'm in trouble if I sometimes move some of my inventory boxes around when I need to vacuum or clean? The space is definitely dedicated to my business but occasionally I need to shift things for maintenance.
No, you're not in trouble for basic maintenance activities like cleaning. That's considered a normal part of maintaining your business space. What the IRS looks for is whether the space serves a dual purpose. For example, if you're storing inventory in your bedroom where you also sleep, or using your living room couch for both business and personal activities, those spaces wouldn't qualify. But if you have boxes of inventory in a dedicated area and just move them temporarily to clean, that's perfectly fine.
Has anyone used TurboTax for calculating the home office deduction? Does it explain both methods and help you choose the better one?
I used TurboTax last year and it walks you through both methods and shows you which one gives you the bigger deduction. It asks for your total home square footage, the business-use square footage, and your expenses. Pretty straightforward. But honestly, I still got confused with some of the questions about "exclusive use" and partial room usage. Had to google a bunch of stuff that wasn't clear in the software.
Here's a simple example to understand blended vs marginal rates: Let's say for married filing jointly (simplified version): - First $20k taxed at 10% = $2k tax - Next $60k taxed at 12% = $7.2k tax - Next $90k taxed at 22% = $19.8k tax - Next $100k taxed at 24% = $24k tax If you make $250k taxable income, your total tax would be $53k (adding all those up), making your blended rate 21.2% ($53k/$250k). But your marginal rate (top bracket) would be 24% because that's the rate at which your last dollar was taxed.
Thanks this makes so much more sense with actual numbers! So is there any easy way to calculate what specific dollars are being taxed at what rate? Like if I get a $5000 bonus, is there a quick way to know how much of that I'll actually take home?
For a $5,000 bonus, it would be taxed at your marginal rate (your highest bracket) because it's additional income on top of what you already make. So if your highest bracket is 24%, about $1,200 would go to federal income tax. However, bonuses are often initially withheld at a flat 22% for federal tax (this is just withholding, not the actual final tax rate). Your actual tax obligation will be calculated when you file based on your total income and where it falls across the brackets. If your true marginal rate is higher than 22%, you might owe a bit more at tax time.
I created a small spreadsheet to calculate my blended rate manually and found Turbotax was spot on. Here's what I did: 1. Find the income thresholds for each tax bracket for your filing status 2. Calculate the tax for each bracket up to your income 3. Add them all up 4. Divide by your taxable income My taxable income was $143,750 and total tax was $25,156, giving me a blended rate of 17.5%, despite being in the 24% bracket. Would be happy to share the spreadsheet if anyone wants it.
Could you share that spreadsheet please? I'm terrible at math and this whole conversation has me confused. I make $110k and my wife makes $72k and I have no idea what our blended rate should be.
I'll simplify it for you - with a combined income around $182k (minus standard deduction), you're likely in the 24% bracket, but your blended rate would be approximately 18-19%. The crucial thing to remember is that only the portion of your income that exceeds each threshold gets taxed at the higher rate. For 2025 married filing jointly, the first $22,000 (standard deduction) isn't taxed at all, then 10% applies to the first $23,200 of taxable income, 12% to the portion between $23,200 and $94,300, 22% from there to $190,750, and 24% on anything above that but below $364,200.
Important thing nobody's mentioned yet - if you're filing a 2013 return, make sure you're doing it because you're owed a refund! If you actually owe money, you might face significant penalties and interest for filing this late. The statute of limitations for claiming refunds is generally 3 years, so for 2013 that would have expired in 2017. However, if you're filing because you owe, there's no time limit on the IRS collecting.
Wait, are you saying if I was owed a refund for 2013, I can't get it anymore? But if I owe THEM money, I still have to pay? That doesn't seem fair at all. How do I even know which situation I'm in before I file?
Yes, unfortunately that's exactly how it works. The IRS gives you 3 years to claim refunds, and after that window closes, you generally can't get that money. But they can still collect from you virtually forever (there's a 10-year statute of limitations on collection, but with many exceptions that can extend it). You won't know for certain which situation you're in until you prepare the return. That's why it might be worth working through the forms or using a service to calculate it first, before officially filing. If it turns out you owe a substantial amount with penalties, you might want to consult with a tax professional about your options.
Has anyone used FreeTaxUSA for old returns? I heard they keep prior year versions available and their prices are way better than TurboTax. Wondering if it's a good alternative for 2013 filing?
I used FreeTaxUSA for a 2014 return last year and it worked well. It was around $15 for the federal (they keep all the old tax year versions available) and another $15 for state if I remember right. Much cheaper than TurboTax. The interface isn't as fancy but it gets the job done and had all the forms I needed.
One thing nobody mentioned is that if you're owed a refund, there's no penalty for filing late! The IRS doesn't penalize you for filing late if they owe YOU money. The 3-year deadline is just to claim your refund, not a penalty deadline. BUT if you owed taxes (instead of being due a refund), then you'll face failure-to-file and failure-to-pay penalties plus interest. Just something to keep in mind depending on your situation.
Is this really true? I thought there was always a penalty for filing late regardless of whether you owe money or are getting a refund.
Yes, it's absolutely true! The IRS only charges penalties and interest when you owe them money and pay late. They have no incentive to penalize people who are owed refunds - they're actually saving money by holding onto your refund longer! The only "penalty" for filing late when you're due a refund is that you lose the refund entirely if you wait longer than 3 years from the original due date. So for 2020 taxes, you'd lose your refund if you don't file by May 17, 2024. But there are no failure-to-file penalties or interest charges when you're getting money back.
Don't forget to check if you need to file state tax returns too! Free federal filing options don't always include state filing for free, especially for prior years. Some states have their own free filing programs separate from the federal ones. Also, even with simple returns, you might qualify for credits you don't know about from those years. The Earned Income Credit and education credits could apply even with basic W-2 income. Don't leave money on the table!
Omar Farouk
Have you checked your pay stubs during this time? Many times small companies do this because they're having cash flow issues and essentially "borrowing" from the withholding they should be sending to the government. It's illegal but happens more often than people realize. Make sure you're not only getting proper withholding going forward but also that they're actually SENDING that money to the IRS. You could find yourself in a situation where your W-2 shows withholding but the IRS never received it.
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Oliver Fischer
β’I haven't been getting pay stubs! That's part of the problem - they just direct deposit the money and when I've asked for stubs they say "we'll email them" but never do. Is that even legal? How do I know if they're actually sending the money to the IRS if I don't get pay stubs?
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Omar Farouk
β’That's concerning. Employers are legally required to provide either electronic or paper pay statements in most states. If they're not providing pay stubs, that's another red flag pointing to potential financial issues at the company. You can check if they're remitting your taxes by creating an account on the IRS website and viewing your wage and income transcript. It won't show real-time data, but you'll eventually be able to see if they're reporting your withholding properly. This is definitely a situation to stay on top of because if they're having financial troubles, tax withholding is often one of the first things struggling businesses stop remitting properly.
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CosmicCadet
this happened to me in 2024!! i had to pay almsot $5000 in taxes because my employer did this sneaky crap. what i did was calculate my own withholding using the irs calculator on their website (just search irs withholding calculator) and then i took that amount and divided by number of paychecks left in the year. i just put that exact amount on the W-4 form step 4c for extra withholding and made my boss sign a paper saying he received it. problem solved!
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Chloe Harris
β’The IRS withholding calculator is definitely helpful but I found it confusing at first. Did you end up withholding enough to cover what you would owe? I tried using it but wasn't sure if I did it right.
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