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The 401k overcontribution issue happened to me too! The way I handled it in TurboTax was: 1. Enter the 1099-R you received for the returned excess 2. Make sure you check that it was a "return of excess contributions" 3. The earnings portion (if any) is taxable in the year you receive it TurboTax has a specific workflow for this but their "experts" apparently don't know about it. Try searching "excess contribution" in the TurboTax help section instead of asking their live people.
Thanks for this! Where exactly is that option? I searched around but couldn't find the specific "return of excess contributions" checkbox.
When you enter the 1099-R information, there should be a question about the type of distribution. One of the options is "return of excess contributions." It's in the section where you're entering the distribution code from Box 7. If you've already entered it differently, you can go back and edit the 1099-R entry. Look for "Your Income" in the left sidebar, then find the 1099-R entry and click on it to edit. The option should appear during the workflow.
Pro tip: Skip TurboTax's live help and just call the IRS directly with questions like these. Despite what people think, the IRS phone representatives are actually pretty helpful and give correct information (when you can actually get through). For the 1099-R rollover question, that's literally their job to answer correctly, unlike some random TurboTax contractor who might be in their first tax season.
Call the IRS directly? Lol good luck with that. I tried calling 8 times this season and either got disconnected or told the wait time was 2+ hours. Never actually spoke to anyone.
One thing nobody mentioned yet - make sure you have a solid Operating Agreement that specifies how profits and losses are allocated. Without this, the IRS assumes equal distribution regardless of who contributed what. Also, consider if you want to make a special allocation for tax purposes. For example, if one partner contributed more startup capital, you might want to allocate more of the initial losses to them (if applicable). But be aware that special allocations need to have "substantial economic effect" to be respected by the IRS. This gets complicated fast, so you might want professional help with this part.
We do have an operating agreement, but it's pretty basic and just says we split everything equally. Is that sufficient? Also, what exactly is "substantial economic effect" and how do we know if our allocations meet that requirement?
Your basic agreement splitting everything equally is actually the simplest approach for IRS purposes, so that's fine. "Substantial economic effect" is the IRS's way of ensuring that tax allocations reflect economic reality. Basically, tax benefits should go to the partner who actually bears the economic burden or receives the economic benefit. For example, if your agreement said Partner A gets 90% of the tax losses but only 10% of the actual profits when you sell or liquidate the business, the IRS would likely reject that as lacking substantial economic effect. The partner getting the tax benefits must also bear the economic consequences. When you allocate everything equally, this usually isn't an issue unless you have complex arrangements like guaranteed payments or preferred returns.
Has anyone handled QBI (Qualified Business Income) deduction with partnerships? My accountant says partnership income qualifies but I'm confused about how it passes through to personal returns.
Yes, partnership income can qualify for the QBI deduction (Section 199A). The partnership doesn't take the deduction itself - it's calculated and claimed on each partner's individual return based on their share of qualified business income. The partnership will provide information on each partner's K-1 about qualified business income, W-2 wages paid by the business, and qualified property. Partners then use this information on Form 8995 or 8995-A on their personal returns to calculate their deduction. The deduction can be up to 20% of QBI, subject to limitations based on taxable income, business type, and W-2 wages/qualified property.
3 I found my tax attorney through my regular CPA. They often have networks of specialists they refer to for specific tax issues. Also check with the Tax Law Association in your state - they usually have directories of members with their specialties listed. For innocent spouse claims specifically, look for attorneys who have experience with the IRS Appeals process since many of these cases end up there. Former IRS attorneys sometimes specialize in this area after leaving government service.
19 I second this. I found a great tax attorney through my accountant. One thing I'd add is to make sure they have experience specifically with the type of issue you're dealing with. My first attorney was good with business tax but not so much with innocent spouse relief, which is what I needed.
3 Absolutely true. Tax attorneys often develop niche specialties within tax law. Some focus primarily on offshore reporting issues, others on employment tax, and some specifically on innocent spouse relief or offer in compromise cases. When interviewing potential attorneys, ask them what percentage of their practice involves innocent spouse cases specifically. If it's less than 15-20%, keep looking. Also, ask if they've handled cases with the specific IRS service center that will be processing your case, as procedures can vary slightly between locations.
21 Has anyone tried those tax resolution companies that advertise on the radio all the time? They keep talking about "pennies on the dollar" settlements and I'm wondering if they're legitimate or just scams.
4 Most of those national tax resolution firms that advertise heavily make unrealistic promises. The "pennies on the dollar" settlements (called Offers in Compromise) are quite rare and have very specific qualifying criteria - most people don't qualify. These companies often charge large upfront fees ($5,000+) and then do very little actual work. Many employ salespeople rather than tax professionals for initial consultations, and they're incentivized to tell you what you want to hear. I've had many clients come to me after wasting thousands with these services.
One approach I've used with stubborn clients is to put everything in writing. Send an email clearly stating that you've advised them of their legal obligation to file, including citations to specific IRS publications, and that they're choosing to ignore professional advice. Make it clear you won't be associated with the decision not to file. This does two things: 1) Sometimes seeing it in formal writing makes it "real" for them, and 2) It protects you if they ever try to claim you advised them not to file.
Wouldn't sending an email like that basically guarantee you'll lose the client though? It sounds so confrontational. Is there a gentler way to document this while still maintaining the relationship?
It doesn't have to be confrontational at all. I frame it as a summary of our discussion and my recommendations. Something like: "As we discussed, based on your business income of $43,000, IRS Publication XXX indicates you're required to file Schedule C and pay self-employment taxes. I understand you're considering not filing based on advice from a friend, but I wanted to document my professional recommendation to ensure you have accurate information for your decision." Most clients actually appreciate the clarity, and it often leads them to reconsider rather than lose the relationship. If they do choose to leave over this, they were likely going to be a professional liability anyway.
My previous accountant didn't file my self-employment taxes for the first year of my business because of this exact myth. Fast forward 3 years, and I got hit with a CP2000 notice, penalties, and interest that totaled almost $12,000. The IRS knew about my income because my clients had filed 1099s. Tell your client that the IRS's computer systems automatically match 1099s with tax returns, and discrepancies get flagged. If her customers or payment processors are issuing 1099s (which they legally must do for payments over $600), the IRS WILL know about her income.
Natasha Petrova
Something that hasn't been mentioned yet - if you're thinking about selling your home in the future, be careful with home office depreciation. When you sell, you'll have to "recapture" the depreciation you took on the business portion, even if you qualify for the primary residence exclusion on the rest of the home. I learned this the hard way!
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Zainab Yusuf
ā¢Whoa I had no idea about the "recapture" thing! What exactly does that mean? Would we have to pay back all the tax savings from the depreciation when we sell the house?
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Natasha Petrova
ā¢You don't exactly "pay back" the tax savings, but the amount you depreciated gets taxed when you sell. For example, if you depreciated $20,000 of your home office over the years, that $20,000 would be subject to depreciation recapture tax (typically at 25%) when you sell, even if the rest of your home sale qualifies for the capital gains exclusion. So you'd pay around $5,000 in recapture tax on that $20,000 of depreciation. The benefit is that you got tax deductions spread over many years, which usually outweighs this future tax. This is why proper record-keeping is crucial - you need to track all the depreciation you claim to calculate this correctly when you eventually sell.
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Javier Hernandez
Question for anyone who uses TurboTax - where exactly do you input the home office info? I'm trying to help my sister with her taxes and she's confused about how to claim depreciation for the space she uses for her Etsy business.
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Emma Davis
ā¢In TurboTax, you enter it through the business income section under Schedule C. When you get to the expenses part, there's a specific section for "Business use of home." It'll ask for the total square footage of your home and the square footage used exclusively for business. Then it will walk you through either the simplified method (standard $5 per sq ft up to 300 sq ft) or the regular method where you enter actual expenses including depreciation.
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