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Quick tip that might help - if you've been living abroad continuously, you might qualify for the foreign residency exception to the early distribution penalty. Check out exception code 02 on Form 5329. You'll need to attach a statement explaining that you're a bona fide resident of a foreign country. This won't help with the withholding issue, but it might mean you can get that 10% refunded if you qualify for the exception!
Wait really?? I've been living overseas since before the distribution and still am. Does this mean I could potentially get that $2000 back? How would I document that?
Yes! If you meet the bona fide residence test (generally living in a foreign country for an uninterrupted period that includes an entire tax year), you should qualify for exception code 02. You'd fill out Form 5329, and on line 2, you'd enter exception code "02" and then the amount of the early distribution that qualifies for the exception. Then attach a statement to your return explaining your foreign residency status. Since the 10% was already withheld, when you properly code this exception, you should get that money refunded. Just make sure you can document your foreign residency if asked (rental agreements, utility bills, foreign tax documents, etc.).
Has anyone successfully filed Form 5329 using TurboTax? I'm in a similar situation but the software seems to be calculating everything wrong.
I gave up on TurboTax for complex situations like this. H&R Block's premium version handled my 5329 correctly last year. For some reason TurboTax kept double-counting the penalty even after I entered the withholding.
If you're seeing a 570 code, check if you also have a 971 followed by a 290 code on a later date. In my experience, this sequence often means they're making an adjustment (could be up or down). The key is looking at whether there's a minus or plus sign next to any amount listed on the same line as these codes. Also, the cycle date on your transcript is important - it tells you when your account updates. If your cycle code ends in 05, your account updates on Thursdays/Fridays.
Thank you so much for this info! I do see a 290 code dated one week after the 570/971 codes. There's a small amount next to it (about $120 less than my expected refund). I'm guessing that means they're reducing it by that amount? My cycle code does end in 05 so I'll check again tomorrow to see if there are any updates.
Yes, that's exactly what it means. The $120 reduction is likely a correction they made to your return. This is actually good news because it means they've completed their review and are moving forward with processing your refund with just that small adjustment. Since your cycle code ends in 05, definitely check your transcript again tomorrow. You'll likely see a TC 846 code with your refund amount and direct deposit date. Most people see their money hit their account within 5-7 days after the TC 846 appears.
Has anyone used the "Where's My Refund" tool compared to checking transcripts? Mine has been saying "still processing" for weeks but my transcript shows all these codes. I'm confused which one is more accurate.
Transcripts are ALWAYS more accurate and detailed than the "Where's My Refund" tool. WMR only shows three basic statuses (received, approved, sent), while transcripts show you exactly what's happening behind the scenes. Many times my WMR would show "still processing" while my transcript showed they were already preparing to issue a refund.
Just an FYI - always double check that you're using the most current address. The IRS and state tax agencies occasionally change their mailing addresses or have different addresses for different types of payments. When in doubt, go directly to your state's department of revenue website (not third-party sites) for the most up-to-date information. For federal taxes, always use irs.gov.
Is there a way to confirm that the IRS actually received your payment if you mail it? I'm always worried it will get lost in the mail and then I'll get hit with penalties even though I sent it on time.
Yes, there are a few ways to confirm the IRS received your payment. The most reliable is to send it via USPS Certified Mail with Return Receipt requested. This gives you proof of mailing and delivery. You can also check your tax account information online through the IRS website after a few weeks to see if the payment has been applied. If you included your phone number on your check, sometimes the IRS can locate your payment status if you call and ask about it, though that can take some time on the phone.
Has anyone else noticed that the IRS website info sometimes contradicts what their own agents tell you? Last year I got 3 different addresses from 3 different sources - the website, an agent on the phone, and the printed instructions. Ended up sending duplicate payments just to be safe lol
Yes!!! This happens to me every year and it's maddening. I've started taking screenshots of everything on the IRS website just so I can prove what they told me if there's ever an issue. The worst is when they update info mid tax season without any clear notification.
5 Just a heads up - make sure you keep good records of everything related to this W-2C and your amendment. I had a similar situation last year, and the IRS initially rejected my amended return because they couldn't match up the information with what they had on file. It took multiple calls and sending in copies of the W-2C to get it sorted out.
1 What exactly should I be keeping? Just the W-2C and copies of the amended return? Or should I also be keeping some kind of documentation about when I received it from my employer?
5 You should definitely keep the original W-2C (both your copy and all copies they sent you), your original tax return for that year, and copies of your completed amended return with all attachments. I'd also recommend keeping any emails or documentation showing when you received the W-2C from your employer, especially since it came so late. I'd also suggest writing a brief explanation letter to attach to your amended return explaining the delayed W-2C situation. This helps the IRS processor understand why you're amending a return from two years ago. In my case, including this letter helped when I had to follow up later.
17 Has anyone else noticed employers seem to be sending more W-2Cs lately? This is the third post I've seen about this in the last month. My theory is that payroll companies are doing more audits since all the employee turnover during covid.
22 I work in payroll, and you're partly right. There's been a big push for compliance audits after all the remote work and state tax complications from the pandemic. Many companies are still catching up and finding issues from 2-3 years ago. Plus the IRS has been sending more notices about mismatches between what employers reported and what employees filed.
Omar Fawaz
To answer your TaxSlayer question - yes, they do support Form 1040-ES calculations, but in my experience their free version has limitations. The paid versions definitely support it properly. I'd suggest looking at the IRS Direct Pay website too - you can make estimated tax payments directly there without having to mail in the vouchers. Just select "Estimated Tax" as the payment type and the applicable tax year and quarter.
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Natasha Kuznetsova
ā¢Thanks for the info about TaxSlayer and IRS Direct Pay! I was wondering about making the payments online instead of mailing them. Does the Direct Pay system give you a confirmation that you can save for your records?
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Omar Fawaz
ā¢Yes, the IRS Direct Pay system provides a confirmation number immediately after your payment processes. You can print this confirmation page or save it as a PDF. I recommend doing both and keeping a folder (digital or physical) for each tax year with all your payment confirmations. They also send a confirmation email if you provide your email address during the payment process. I personally save these emails in a dedicated tax folder in my email account for easy reference later.
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Chloe Anderson
One thing nobody's mentioned - don't forget about your STATE estimated taxes too! Depending on where you live, your state might have similar requirements for quarterly payments. I got hit with penalties in my state even though I was paying federal quarterly taxes.
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Diego Vargas
ā¢This is such an important point. I had the same thing happen in New York. Paid all my federal estimated taxes but completely forgot about state requirements. Ended up with almost $200 in penalties even though my actual state tax bill wasn't that high.
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