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For next year, I HIGHLY recommend avoiding those tax places that offer loans or "instant refunds." Use a free filing option like IRS Free File or even a basic paid option like TurboTax or H&R Block online (still cheaper than in-person). Those loan places target first-time filers and low-income folks with promises of fast money, but they're basically predatory with their fees.
Is Credit Karma Tax still free? I used it last year and it was pretty straightforward even though I had some 1099 income and a W-2.
Credit Karma Tax is now called Cash App Taxes, but yes, it's still free for federal and state returns! It works well for most basic to moderately complex situations. Just be aware it doesn't support multiple state filings or some less common tax situations like foreign income or rental property depreciation.
Always always ALWAYS get a copy of your completed tax return before you leave any tax preparation place!!! I worked at one of those places for two tax seasons and you wouldn't believe how many people just sign whatever's put in front of them without reviewing it. Go back to the place, tell them you got this IRS notice, and ask them to explain what happened. Most places offer some kind of guarantee or audit support. Make them earn their ridiculous fees by actually helping you sort this out.
I did get copies but honestly I don't understand half of what's on them. There are all these forms and schedules that don't make any sense to me. But I'll definitely go back and ask them to explain. Do you think they might have entered something wrong on purpose to make it look like I'd get a bigger refund? The guy kept talking about how he could "maximize" my refund which sounded good at the time.
It's unlikely they did something fraudulent on purpose (that could cost them their business), but they might have been sloppy or made assumptions without asking you proper questions. Sometimes preparers at those places work on commission based on how many returns they process, so they rush through them. When you go back, ask specifically about the "underreported income" mentioned in the IRS letter. They should be able to run a comparison between what they submitted and what the IRS has on file for you. Don't leave until you understand what happened - it's your money and your tax record at stake.
As someone who used to work for the IRS (not speaking in any official capacity now), I'd recommend requesting a formal appeal of the CP105 assessment. You have 30 days from the notice date to request this. Common life estate gift tax problems I've seen: - Using incorrect actuarial tables for valuation - Not properly accounting for retained interests - Incorrectly calculating the gift split between spouses - Using outdated property valuations Make sure any new tax professional you hire gets copies of: - The original deed - The life estate documentation - The original Form 709 as filed - The CP105 notice with all calculation pages - Any appraisals that were done Also, check if your parents' accountant has E&O (errors and omissions) insurance. If their mistake caused this issue, their insurance may cover penalties and interest, though probably not the underlying tax.
Thank you for sharing your expertise! Is the 30-day appeal window strict or is there any flexibility? The notice arrived about 2 weeks ago, so we're getting close to that deadline.
The 30-day window is fairly strict, but I'd recommend filing the appeal request even if you're close to the deadline. Use Form 12203 (Request for Appeals Review) and send it via certified mail so you have proof of the date it was submitted. If you're very close to the deadline, you can also call the IRS (using whatever method works to get through) and request a brief extension to file the appeal. Sometimes they'll grant a 15-day extension, especially if you explain that you're gathering documentation and seeking professional assistance. Make sure to document who you spoke with and when. The main thing is to get something formal submitted before the deadline, even if your documentation isn't complete yet. You can supplement the appeal later with additional information.
Dealt with something similar last year. Make sure your parents get a second opinion on the valuation of the property. The IRS might be using a different valuation method than your accountant did. When we got a big gift tax bill, turns out our accountant used the county tax assessment ($425k) instead of getting a formal appraisal, and the IRS determined the value was closer to $575k based on recent sales in the area. That difference alone added like $60k to our tax bill!
This!! Property valuation is HUGE for gift tax purposes. We had a similar issue and hiring an independent appraiser who specialized in retrospective valuations (valuing the property as of the date of the gift) saved us thousands. The IRS will often accept a professional appraisal if it's well-documented.
Have you checked if your company treats these as supplemental wages? Most companies withhold at the flat 22% federal rate for RSUs rather than using your regular withholding rate. Also, ask if they did a "sell to cover" transaction where they sell just enough shares to cover taxes. Sometimes this happens but isn't clearly documented in the statements.
I double-checked both my E*TRADE account and the transaction confirmations - there was definitely no "sell to cover" for taxes. The statements explicitly show 0% withholding on these vestings. All shares came through intact with no sales. I think I'm going to follow the advice about contacting our stock admin team specifically rather than regular HR. It sounds like there's something wrong with how my international transfer was set up in their system.
That's definitely a problem then. One other thing to check - some companies use a different payroll system for equity compensation than they do for regular salary. So while your ADP might show nothing, there could be withholding happening in a different system. This happened to me when I transferred from our Tokyo office. My regular pay was in ADP but equity was handled through a specialized system that didn't show up in my regular payroll login. Check with your stock admin team if they use a separate system for equity compensation reporting.
Quick question for anyone who's been through this - does the US tax all RSUs granted from overseas or is there some prorated system? I had some RSUs granted while working in Canada that are vesting now that I'm in the US, but they were for work I performed while in Canada.
The general rule is that RSUs are taxed based on where you are when they vest, not where you were when they were granted. So if you're a US resident/taxpayer when they vest, the entire value at vesting is taxable in the US regardless of where you earned them. There can be exceptions based on tax treaties between countries and the specific structure of your equity plan, but in most cases, if you're physically in the US when RSUs vest, they're fully taxable in the US. You might want to check if there's a US-Canada tax treaty provision that applies to your specific situation.
One thing to keep in mind - when you apply for ITINs with your tax return, your refund will be held until the ITINs are processed. Last year this took almost 4 months for my brother's kids! If you need your refund quickly, you might want to consider applying for the ITINs separately before filing your tax return.
Thanks for mentioning this! I hadn't considered the refund delay. Do you know if there's any way to apply for the ITINs now, before tax season starts, so everything's ready when I file?
Yes, you can absolutely apply for ITINs before tax season! You'll need to submit the W-7 forms along with your federal tax return, but you can do this outside of tax season. You'll include a note explaining that you're applying for ITINs for the purpose of filing tax returns in the future. The advantage is that once the ITINs are assigned, you'll be able to file your 2025 tax return normally without delays in processing or receiving your refund. Given that ITIN processing is typically slower during peak tax season, applying now could save you significant waiting time.
Whatever you do, DONT mail original documents to the IRS if you can avoid it!!! My cousin did this for her kid's ITIN application last year, and it took 8 months to get her daughter's birth certificate back. Use a certified acceptance agent who can verify the documents on the spot so you keep your originals.
Is there a directory or something where you can find certified acceptance agents in your area? I'm in a small town and not sure if we even have any nearby.
Keisha Brown
One thing nobody's mentioned yet - this bonus delay might actually benefit you tax-wise depending on your income situation. If you were in a higher tax bracket in 2022 than you expect to be in 2023, you might actually pay LESS tax on that bonus now that it's pushed to 2023. My company did something similar (but deliberately) a few years back, and several of us actually came out ahead because of lower tax brackets the following year. Might be worth running the numbers both ways to see if you actually benefit from this mistake!
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Sofia Gomez
ā¢I hadn't even thought of that angle! I was so focused on the mistake that I didn't consider it might actually work in my favor. My income will probably be a bit lower in 2023 since I'm planning to take some unpaid leave, so this might actually push me into a lower bracket. Do you know if this affects other income-based things like student loan payments or healthcare subsidies? I'm worried it might have ripple effects beyond just my tax return.
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Keisha Brown
ā¢Great question about the ripple effects. Yes, this can absolutely impact income-based programs. If you're on an income-based repayment plan for student loans, your payments are typically calculated based on your prior year's AGI (Adjusted Gross Income), so this could potentially lower your 2022 AGI and reduce your payments for 2023. For healthcare subsidies through the Marketplace, those are based on your estimated current year income. So if you're receiving subsidies, you might need to update your projected 2023 income to include this bonus, which could reduce your subsidy amount. It's always better to report changes proactively than to have to pay back subsidies at tax time.
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Paolo Esposito
Has anyone dealt with the opposite problem? My company paid my 2024 bonus in late December 2023 (like Dec 28th) and I'm worried I'll end up paying higher taxes because it pushed me into the next bracket for 2023...
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Amina Toure
ā¢That's actually a common misunderstanding about tax brackets. Moving into a higher bracket only affects the portion of income above that threshold, not all your income. So only the amount that pushed you over would be taxed at the higher rate, not your entire yearly income.
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