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One thing nobody's mentioned yet is the timing of when debt forgiveness happens for tax purposes. In my case, the foreclosure was completed in 2023, but I didn't receive the 1099-C until 2024. My tax preparer explained that the debt forgiveness is taxable in the year the 1099-C is issued, not necessarily when the foreclosure happens. This means you might think you're in the clear for the 2024 tax year, but then get surprised with a 1099-C that affects your 2025 taxes. Keep an eye on your mail, especially in January/February when tax forms typically arrive.
That's really important info - thanks for pointing this out! Do you know how long after a foreclosure a lender typically waits before sending a 1099-C? I'm trying to budget and plan for the worst-case scenario.
In my experience, lenders usually issue the 1099-C in January of the year following when they make the decision to forgive the debt. However, this can vary widely. Some lenders will issue it the same year as the foreclosure, while others might wait several years. The tricky part is that the decision to forgive the debt (and thus issue a 1099-C) is separate from the decision not to pursue a deficiency judgment. A lender might not seek a deficiency judgment but still keep the debt on their books for years before officially "canceling" it and triggering the tax consequences.
Has anyone looked into the insolvency exclusion? From what I understand, if your total debts exceeded your total assets immediately before the foreclosure, you might not have to pay tax on the forgiven amount. For example, if you owed $400k on the mortgage, $30k in credit cards, $20k in car loans (total liabilities $450k), but your total assets were only worth $350k, you'd be insolvent by $100k. If the bank forgives $175k of mortgage debt, you could exclude $100k from your taxable income based on your insolvency. I used IRS Form 982 for this when I went through foreclosure. It's technically challenging to complete but can save you thousands.
Don't forget that you need to pay quarterly estimated taxes as a 1099 worker! I learned this the hard way last year and got hit with penalties for not paying throughout the year. The IRS expects you to pay as you earn. For reducing tax liability, also look into health insurance premium deductions if you're buying your own insurance. And if you're using your personal phone for business, you can typically deduct a percentage based on business use.
Wait, so I'm already in trouble for not paying quarterly taxes this past year? Will I get penalties? How do I even figure out how much I was supposed to pay each quarter?
Yes, you may face penalties for not making quarterly payments. The IRS calls these "failure to pay estimated tax" penalties. The penalty rate is currently around 3-4% of what you should have paid. To figure out what you should have paid, you generally need to pay either 90% of this year's tax or 100% of last year's tax (110% if your income was over $150,000) divided into four equal payments. For a first-time 1099 earner, this is tricky since you don't have a previous year of self-employment to reference. Moving forward, use Form 1040-ES to calculate your quarterly payments for the new tax year.
One thing nobody's mentioned yet - track EVERYTHING. I'm talking every coffee you buy when working, every mile you drive, every subscription, office supplies, computer accessories, everything. I use a separate credit card just for business expenses to make it easier. Also, don't forget about self-employment tax (15.3%). That's on top of your regular income tax. It hurts, but you can deduct half of that amount on your 1040.
Be careful with deducting "every coffee you buy when working." That's not how it works. Regular coffee while you're working at home isn't deductible - that's just personal consumption. You can only deduct meals when you're traveling for business or having a business meeting with a client or potential client, and even then it's only 50% deductible in most cases.
Just a heads up from someone who works in tax prep - if your original return is still processing (which it sounds like it might be since you filed so early and haven't heard anything), you should definitely wait before filing an amendment. The IRS is still working through a massive backlog from 2020, and adding an amendment to the mix could potentially delay your refund by months. The Recovery Rebate Credit is one area where the IRS has been automatically correcting returns if they see you were eligible for more than you claimed. Check your IRS transcript online (you can create an account at irs.gov) to see if they've made any adjustments to your return already before going through the amendment process.
Thank you everyone for the advice! I checked my IRS transcript like you suggested and it looks like my return is still being processed. I think I'll try the Claimyr route to speak with someone before filing the amendment. One question - if I do end up needing to amend, should I wait until I receive my original refund first or can I submit the amendment while the original is still processing?
Definitely wait until your original return is fully processed and you receive your refund before filing an amendment. Filing an amendment while the original is still in process creates a high risk of the two filings conflicting with each other, which can lead to significant delays or even trigger unnecessary review flags. When you call the IRS, ask them to check if they're already planning to adjust your Recovery Rebate Credit automatically. Many taxpayers are finding that the IRS is fixing these stimulus payment issues without requiring an amendment. The agent should be able to tell you if you need to amend or if they can handle it on their end.
Has anyone noticed that the "Where's My Amended Return" tool is basically useless? I filed my amendment for 2020 back in March and it still just says "received" with no other update. Called IRS twice and got different answers each time about how long it would take.
I had the same experience with my 2019 amended return. The tool showed "received" for almost 8 months before finally updating to "adjusted." If you need a more accurate status, you'll have better luck calling and speaking with a representative. They can see more detailed status info in their system than what shows on the public tracker.
Something nobody mentioned yet - if you're dealing with ISOs, you'll need to receive Form 3921 from your wife's employer by January 31. This form shows the exercise price, FMV at exercise, etc. Make sure to keep this for your records! Also, don't forget about state taxes. Some states don't have preferential treatment for long-term capital gains, so you might pay the same rate regardless of how long you hold.
Thanks for mentioning Form 3921. Will this form show the AMT adjustment amount or do we need to calculate that ourselves? Our state (California) doesn't have different rates for capital gains vs regular income, but I'm still trying to maximize the federal tax benefits and use up those carryover losses if possible.
Form 3921 won't calculate the AMT adjustment for you - it just provides the information you need to do that calculation yourself (or that your tax software will use). The form shows the exercise price, fair market value at exercise, and date information you need. California is indeed one of those states that taxes all income at the same rates regardless of whether it's capital gains or ordinary income. But given your federal carryover losses, it's worth talking to a tax professional about timing. Even though the ISO exercise+immediate sale would be ordinary income, there might be other strategies to utilize those capital loss carryovers in the same tax year.
Has anyone used TurboTax for handling ISO exercises? I've got a bunch I need to exercise this year and I'm wondering if TurboTax handles the AMT calculations correctly or if I need to go to a CPA?
TurboTax can handle basic ISO scenarios, but honestly, if you're dealing with a significant amount (sounds like you are), I'd go with a CPA who specializes in equity compensation. I made the mistake of using TurboTax last year and missed an AMT credit carryforward that cost me about $3,400. A good CPA will save you more than they cost.
Aurora Lacasse
Im curious what your CPA meant by saying you could file as "Single" when youre not officially divorced. Maybe they meant Head of Household?? Thats the only other option I can think of if your still technically married but living apart.
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Anthony Young
ā¢Sometimes tax preparers use incorrect terminology with clients. A good CPA would never tell someone who's still legally married that they can file as "Single" - that's just wrong. But they might have been referring to Head of Household status, which is technically a separate filing status from both "Single" and "Married Filing Separately.
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Charlotte White
Just went through this exact situation last year. Whatever you do, make sure you understand what your divorce decree will say about future tax filings for any children involved. My ex and I had to go back to court because our decree didn't clearly specify who could claim our daughter in which years, and it was a huge headache. Get that spelled out clearly now to save yourself future problems!
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