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Gabriel Freeman

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This is such a frustrating situation, but you're definitely not alone! I work as a tax professional and see this H&R Block system disconnect issue multiple times every tax season. What's happening is that H&R Block uses different systems for their consumer-facing app/website versus their professional tax software. The professional system (what your preparer is seeing) connects directly to the IRS e-file system and shows real-time status updates. Their consumer app, unfortunately, sometimes pulls from a different database that doesn't sync properly. The "rejected" status you're seeing is likely a temporary glitch or could be showing an old status from before a successful resubmission. Since your preparer can see "accepted" in their professional system, that's almost certainly the accurate status. Here's what I'd recommend: Wait until Monday or Tuesday, then check the official IRS "Where's My Refund" tool. That's the definitive source - if it shows your return was accepted and is being processed, you can completely ignore what the H&R Block app says. The IRS tool typically updates 24-72 hours after acceptance. If you're still seeing conflicting information after a few more days, ask your H&R Block preparer to print you a copy of the acceptance acknowledgment from their system. That document would be your proof that the return was successfully filed if any issues come up later. Try not to stress too much - this is almost certainly just a technical glitch!

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Oliver Fischer

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Thank you so much for this detailed explanation! It's really helpful to hear from an actual tax professional who sees this issue regularly. I feel much better knowing that the professional system is more reliable than their consumer app. I'll definitely wait until Monday/Tuesday to check the IRS tool again and ask for that printed acknowledgment if things are still confusing. Really appreciate you taking the time to explain what's actually happening behind the scenes!

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GalacticGuru

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I've been dealing with tax issues for years and honestly, the best advice I can give is to always trust the IRS's own systems over any third-party software. H&R Block, TurboTax, FreeTaxUSA - they all have their glitches and system sync issues. The fact that your preparer can see "accepted" in their professional system is definitely a good sign since that connects directly to the IRS e-file network. But here's what I always do when there's any confusion: I wait 3-4 business days after filing, then check the IRS "Where's My Refund" tool AND create an account on IRS.gov to view my tax transcripts. The transcripts will show you exactly what the IRS has received and processed. If after a week you're still seeing conflicting information, I'd recommend going back to H&R Block and asking to speak with a senior tax professional or manager. Sometimes the front-line preparers don't have access to all the diagnostic tools, but the more experienced staff can dig deeper into what might be causing the discrepancy. Don't let this stress you out too much - 99% of the time these status conflicts resolve themselves within a few days once all the systems catch up with each other.

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Andre Laurent

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This is really solid advice about checking the IRS transcripts! I didn't even know you could create an account to view those. That sounds like it would give me the most definitive answer about what's actually happening with my return. I'm definitely going to wait a few more days for everything to sync up, but if I'm still confused I'll try accessing those transcripts and then escalate to a manager at H&R Block if needed. Thanks for the practical steps - it helps to have a clear plan instead of just worrying!

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Demi Lagos

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Has anyone seen the 2024 updates to how LLC members are classified? There were some proposed regulations that would have changed the test for who qualifies as a limited partner for self-employment tax purposes, but I'm not sure if they were finalized.

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Mason Lopez

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I believe those proposed regulations are still pending. For now, the IRS is still using the general guidelines where active participation in management = general partner status for SE tax purposes. But it's worth keeping an eye on those proposed changes if you're trying to optimize your tax strategy.

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Just want to add some clarity from my experience as a tax preparer - the confusion here is totally understandable because you're dealing with two different classification systems that use similar terminology but serve different purposes. Your LLC operating agreement designates you as "members" under state law. But when that LLC elects partnership taxation (which happens automatically with 2+ members), the IRS needs to categorize each member's role for self-employment tax purposes using the GP/LP framework from partnership law. The key test is simple: if you materially participate in the business (which includes management decisions, day-to-day operations, or working more than 500 hours annually), you're classified as a general partner equivalent for tax purposes. This means you'll pay self-employment tax on your share of ordinary business income. Since both you and your wife are active in managing the business, you should both be classified as general partners on your Form 1065 and Schedule K-1s. This won't affect your LLC liability protection at all - that's governed by state law, not federal tax classification. Your CPA needs this info because it determines how your self-employment taxes are calculated on Schedule SE of your personal returns.

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This is exactly the clear explanation I was looking for! As someone new to LLC taxation, I was getting confused by all the different terms being thrown around. Your breakdown of how state law classification (members) differs from federal tax classification (GP/LP equivalent) makes perfect sense now. So just to confirm my understanding: my wife and I will remain "members" in our LLC operating agreement for legal/liability purposes, but we'll be classified as "general partners" on our tax forms because we both actively manage the business. And this GP classification only affects our self-employment taxes, not our liability protection. Is that correct? Also, you mentioned the 500-hour test - is that per person or combined? We definitely both work way more than 500 hours each in the business annually.

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Amina Diop

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Am I completely misunderstanding something? I thought Roth contributions were always made with after-tax dollars, so why would lowering your MAGI matter for contribution eligibility? Isn't the whole point that you pay taxes now so you don't pay them later in retirement?

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Oliver Weber

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You're confusing two separate concepts. Yes, Roth contributions are always made with after-tax dollars, but there are income limits on who's ALLOWED to contribute to a Roth IRA at all. For 2025, if you're single and your MAGI is above about $140k, you start to lose eligibility to contribute to a Roth IRA. Above around $155k, you can't contribute directly to a Roth IRA at all. That's why people try to lower their MAGI - not to reduce taxes on the contribution (since as you correctly noted, Roth contributions are always after-tax), but simply to become eligible to make Roth contributions in the first place.

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LongPeri

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Based on everyone's helpful responses here, it sounds like your $4,000 charitable donation alone won't help you get under the Roth IRA income limits unless you have other significant itemized deductions totaling over $14,600. Instead, I'd recommend focusing on "above-the-line" deductions that directly reduce your MAGI regardless of whether you itemize: 1. Max out your 401(k) contributions if your employer offers one ($23,500 limit for 2025) 2. Contribute to an HSA if you're eligible ($4,150 for individual coverage in 2025) 3. Consider a traditional IRA contribution if you're not covered by a workplace plan With your $142k income, you'd only need to reduce your MAGI by about $2,000-3,000 to get comfortably under the phase-out threshold. An HSA contribution alone could get you there while also giving you triple tax benefits (deductible contribution, tax-free growth, tax-free withdrawals for medical expenses). You could still make those charitable donations for the good causes you support, but don't count on them to help with your Roth eligibility unless you're already planning to itemize for other reasons.

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This is really helpful advice! I'm new to this community but dealing with a similar situation. One question about the HSA strategy - do you know if there are any restrictions on when you can open an HSA account during the year? I'm thinking about switching to a high-deductible health plan specifically to take advantage of the HSA tax benefits for getting under the Roth IRA limits, but I'm not sure if there are enrollment period restrictions or if I can make this change mid-year.

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Liam Sullivan

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This is really comprehensive advice everyone! As someone who's been through the LLC to S Corp transition myself (different industry though), I'd add one more consideration specific to insurance agents - the potential impact on professional liability insurance costs. When I was researching this for my own business, I discovered that some E&O insurance carriers have different premium structures or coverage requirements based on your business entity type. Since E&O insurance is mandatory for insurance agents and can be a significant expense, it's worth checking with your current carrier before making the S Corp election to ensure there won't be any surprises. Also, @Diego, given that your friend is brand new to the industry, he might want to focus on establishing consistent sales processes and building his client base first before getting bogged down in tax optimization strategies. The administrative burden of S Corp compliance (payroll, quarterly filings, etc.) can be a real distraction when you're trying to learn the ropes of a new business. Once he's got a solid foundation and predictable income flow, then the S Corp election becomes much more straightforward to evaluate. The $100k threshold everyone's mentioning is solid, but having consistent monthly income patterns is almost as important as hitting that dollar amount.

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GalaxyGlider

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This is exactly the kind of practical advice that's so valuable! The E&O insurance angle is something I never would have thought about. As someone new to understanding business structures, it's eye-opening how many interconnected pieces there are beyond just the tax implications. @Liam, your point about focusing on building the foundation first really resonates. It seems like there's a tendency to want to optimize everything upfront, but maybe getting the business fundamentals solid should come first. The administrative complexity of S Corp status could definitely be a distraction when you're still learning how to generate consistent sales. I'm curious - for those who have made the transition, how long did it typically take you to feel confident in your monthly income patterns? Is 6-12 months usually enough data, or does it vary significantly by industry?

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Miguel Ortiz

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Great discussion everyone! I'm a CPA who specializes in small business taxation, and I've worked with quite a few insurance agents over the years. One aspect I'd add to consider is the timing of the S Corp election itself. If your friend decides to go this route, he needs to file Form 2553 within 75 days of forming the LLC (or by March 15th of the tax year he wants the election to take effect). Missing this deadline means waiting until the following tax year. Given that he's brand new, I'd actually recommend he start with the LLC and focus on understanding his business cash flows first. Insurance agents often have irregular income patterns - big commission months followed by slower periods. This irregularity makes it harder to manage the required payroll obligations that come with S Corp status. Also, since he's solo right now, he should consider whether he plans to hire employees eventually. If so, the S Corp structure might make more sense down the road when he has multiple people to manage payroll for anyway. But for a true solopreneur, the added complexity often isn't worth it until that $100k threshold that others have mentioned. The key is having enough consistent income to justify both the additional accounting costs AND the required regular salary payments to himself as an employee of his S Corp.

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This is incredibly helpful, @Miguel! The 75-day deadline for Form 2553 is such an important detail that could easily be overlooked. I had no idea the timing was so strict. Your point about irregular income patterns really hits home for insurance agents specifically. Unlike other businesses that might have more predictable monthly revenue, insurance commissions can be feast or famine - especially when you're just starting out and haven't built up that renewal base yet. I'm curious about something you mentioned - when you say "required regular salary payments," does that mean S Corp owners have to pay themselves the same amount every month? Or can the salary vary based on business performance as long as it meets the "reasonable salary" threshold annually? For a new agent who might have a $50k commission month followed by two $5k months, the cash flow management seems like it could get really tricky with mandatory payroll obligations.

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Quinn Herbert

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I'm dealing with a very similar situation right now - my refund was supposedly mailed 12 days ago and still nothing showing up. After reading through everyone's experiences here, it's becoming clear that waiting for transcript updates is basically pointless when you need urgent answers. The fact that so many people have confirmed the transcript system can lag weeks or never update at all for returned checks is really concerning. Given your urgent need for your mom's medical supplies, I'd definitely echo what others have said about calling immediately. The "refund trace" suggestion from @38b8497ad8b0 sounds like the most direct approach to get real answers. I'm planning to call tomorrow myself and specifically ask for that rather than just general refund status questions. It's frustrating that we have to go through phone hell to get basic information about our own money, but it seems like that's the only reliable path forward. Hope you get this resolved quickly - medical expenses can't wait for the IRS's slow systems to catch up.

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I'm new to this community but have been reading through this entire thread because I'm in almost the exact same boat - my refund was supposedly mailed 8 days ago and nothing yet. The consistency of everyone's experiences here is really striking - it sounds like the transcript system is basically useless for tracking returned checks in real-time. @c3c812885916 I think you're absolutely right about calling for a refund trace being the most direct approach. After reading all these stories, I'm convinced that waiting for automated systems to update is just wasting precious time, especially when there's an urgent medical need like @3ffff77e04af has with her mom's supplies. The fact that people are discovering returned checks only through direct phone calls, sometimes weeks after the transcript should have updated, is really eye-opening. I'm going to call tomorrow too and specifically ask for the refund trace that @38b8497ad8b0 mentioned. It's crazy that we have to go through phone hell just to get basic information about our own money, but it seems like that's unfortunately the reality with the IRS systems.

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I'm going through this exact same nightmare right now - my refund was supposedly mailed 6 days ago and nothing in Informed Delivery yet. After reading everyone's experiences here, I'm convinced the transcript system is completely unreliable for returned check tracking. What really stood out to me is how many people discovered their checks were returned ONLY by calling directly, sometimes with transcripts that never updated at all. Given your urgent situation with your mom's medical supplies, I'd absolutely call 800-829-1954 tomorrow and specifically ask for a "refund trace" like @38b8497ad8b0 suggested. Don't waste time waiting for systems that clearly don't work properly. The address formatting issues people mentioned are also eye-opening - even tiny differences like "Apt" vs "Unit" or "Street" vs "St" can cause returns. I'm calling tomorrow myself after seeing how consistent everyone's advice is here. The phone wait will be brutal, but it's infinitely better than waiting weeks for transcript updates that may never come when you have an urgent medical need. Hope you get answers quickly!

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