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question - if I estimate now using FreeTaxUSA 2023 software and create an account, can I just log back in when I have my actual W-2 and 1099 forms and file from there? or would I need to start over?
You should be able to log back in and update the information without starting over. FreeTaxUSA saves your work, so when you receive your actual tax documents, you can simply replace the estimated numbers with the final figures. I recommend creating a separate account just for planning if you want to play around with different scenarios. That way your actual filing account stays clean with only your real data when you're ready to file.
Thanks for the heads up about the early release! I've been using FreeTaxUSA for the past few years and really appreciate being able to do tax planning before the rush. One tip I'd add - if you're estimating now, make sure to save different scenarios. I usually create versions with conservative estimates and then more optimistic projections to see the range of what I might owe or get back. Also worth noting that if you have any major life changes planned (marriage, new job, etc.), you can model those too to see how they'd impact your taxes. Really helps with financial planning for the year ahead.
That's a great strategy about creating different scenarios! I'm new to using tax software for planning ahead like this. When you say "save different scenarios" - do you literally create multiple accounts, or is there a way within FreeTaxUSA to save different versions of your return? I'd love to model what happens if I max out my IRA contribution vs. not contributing at all, but I don't want to accidentally mess up my main estimate.
Has anyone here actually tried implementing a smaller version of this strategy? I have about $200k in company stock that's appreciated a lot, and I'm considering taking out a loan against it to renovate my house instead of selling the shares and triggering capital gains. Not exactly Elon Musk level, but I'm wondering if the "buy, borrow" part of the strategy makes sense for regular-ish people too? What interest rates are banks offering on these securities-backed loans for non-billionaires?
@Dylan Baskin I d'also suggest looking into whether your company stock qualifies for any special tax treatment before deciding. If these are incentive stock options ISOs (or) employee stock purchase plan shares, there might be better tax strategies than borrowing against them. For example, ISO shares can qualify for long-term capital gains treatment lower (tax rates if) you hold them long enough after exercise. ESPP shares might have some portion treated as ordinary income anyway. The tax savings from avoiding sale might not be as significant as you think depending on your specific situation. Also consider the psychological factor - when you sell stock for a renovation, the project is paid "for. With" a loan, you ll'have ongoing monthly payments plus the stress of watching your collateral value fluctuate. Sometimes the peace of mind is worth paying the capital gains tax upfront.
@Dylan Baskin I ve'been exploring this same question and found that many regional banks and credit unions offer securities-backed lines of credit starting around $50k-100k in collateral. Rates typically range from prime + 0.5% to prime + 2% depending on your relationship and loan-to-value ratio. One thing I learned is that these loans are usually structured as lines of credit rather than term loans, which gives you more flexibility. You only pay interest on what you actually borrow, and you can pay it down whenever you want without penalties. That said, I d'echo what others have mentioned about concentration risk. If all $200k is in one company s'stock, you re'essentially doubling down on that single investment. Maybe consider selling some shares to diversify first, then using the securities-backed loan strategy on the remainder? That way you re'not putting all your eggs in one basket while still getting some benefit from the tax deferral strategy.
One aspect that hasn't been mentioned yet is the estate planning angle of this strategy. The "die" part of "buy, borrow, die" is actually crucial for making the whole thing work long-term. When someone dies, their heirs inherit assets with a "stepped-up basis" - meaning the cost basis resets to the fair market value at death. So if Musk bought Tesla stock at $10/share and it's worth $200/share when he dies, his heirs inherit it as if they bought it at $200/share. All those unrealized gains from $10 to $200 are never taxed. This is why the ultra-wealthy can keep rolling over loans indefinitely. They don't necessarily need to pay them back during their lifetime - the estate can sell inherited shares (with no capital gains tax due to stepped-up basis) to pay off any outstanding loans after death. It's a pretty remarkable feature of our tax code that essentially allows generational wealth to avoid capital gains taxes entirely. The heirs start fresh with a new basis, and the cycle can continue for generations.
For simple record-keeping, I'd recommend starting with a basic spreadsheet or even a notebook where you track every payment and expense as it happens. Create columns for date, amount, client/source, payment method (Zelle, etc.), and description. For expenses, note what it was for and keep photos of receipts on your phone. Many freelancers use apps like QuickBooks Self-Employed, FreshBooks, or even just a dedicated business bank account to keep everything separate from personal finances. The key is consistency - update your records weekly, not once a year when you're panicking about taxes. For deductions you might be missing: home office percentage (if you work from home), business use of your phone/internet, software subscriptions, equipment depreciation, professional development courses, business meals with clients, and even mileage if you travel to client meetings. Keep everything documented with dates and business purposes. The most important thing is to start NOW, even if your system isn't perfect. A simple but consistent approach beats a fancy system you never use. And definitely open a separate savings account for those tax payments - automate transferring 30% of each payment immediately so you're not tempted to spend it.
This is exactly what I needed to hear! I've been overthinking the system when I should have just started tracking somewhere. Your point about automating the 30% transfer is brilliant - I know myself well enough to know I'll spend it if it's sitting in my regular account. I'm going to start with a simple spreadsheet this week and set up that separate savings account. The home office deduction is something I never even considered but I definitely work from my spare bedroom. Do you know if there's a minimum requirement for how much of your home has to be used exclusively for business to claim that deduction?
For the home office deduction, there's no minimum size requirement, but the space does need to be used "regularly and exclusively" for business. So that spare bedroom works perfectly as long as you're not also using it as a guest room or storage space while you work. You have two options for calculating it: the simplified method (up to 300 sq ft at $5 per square foot, so max $1,500 deduction) or the actual expense method (measure your office space as a percentage of your total home square footage, then deduct that percentage of your mortgage interest, utilities, insurance, etc.). Most small freelancers find the simplified method easier - just measure your workspace, multiply by $5, and you're done. No need to track utility bills and calculate percentages. If your office is 150 sq ft, that's a $750 deduction right there! The key is documentation - take photos of your workspace and keep records showing it's used exclusively for business. The IRS has been pretty reasonable about home offices for freelancers, especially post-pandemic when everyone started working from home.
You definitely need to report that $6,500 as income on your tax return! The payment method doesn't change your tax obligations - whether you received payment through Zelle, cash, check, or any other method, income from your freelance graphic design work is taxable. Since you didn't receive 1099 forms, don't worry - individual clients aren't required to send them unless they paid you $600+ AND you're not incorporated. But the absence of a 1099 doesn't make your income tax-free. You'll need to report this on Schedule C as self-employment income, which means you'll owe both regular income tax AND self-employment tax (about 15.3% for Social Security and Medicare). I'd recommend setting aside 25-30% of future freelance payments for taxes. The good news is you can deduct legitimate business expenses like design software subscriptions, computer equipment, portion of your home internet used for work, etc. Make sure to keep receipts and records. Going forward, if you expect similar income levels, consider making quarterly estimated tax payments to avoid underpayment penalties. The IRS expects taxes to be paid throughout the year, not just at filing time. Don't stress too much - this is a very common situation for freelancers. Just make sure to report it properly and keep good records of both income and business expenses!
This is such helpful advice! I'm just starting out with freelance work myself and had no idea about the self-employment tax on top of regular income tax. The 25-30% rule for setting aside money is really practical - I've been wondering how much I should be saving. One quick question - when you mention quarterly estimated payments, is there a specific income threshold where those become mandatory? I'm expecting to make maybe $5,000-7,000 this year from various small projects, mostly paid through Zelle and Venmo. Should I be worried about quarterly payments at that income level?
Hey Isabella! I was in the exact same boat last year with my Uber Eats and DoorDash income. The good news is you don't need to stress about separating tips from base pay - they're all treated as self-employment income on your taxes. Here's what I learned: Your entire 1099-K amount ($24,680) goes on Schedule C as gross receipts. The IRS doesn't care how much was tips versus base pay because you're an independent contractor, not an employee. What REALLY matters is tracking your business expenses to offset that income. I saved over $3,000 in taxes by properly deducting: - Mileage (this is huge - 67 cents per business mile for 2024) - Phone bill percentage used for work - Hot bags, car phone mounts, etc. - Car maintenance and repairs - Even a portion of car insurance For mileage, if you didn't track everything, try using your delivery history to estimate. Count your total deliveries and multiply by average miles per delivery (usually 3-5 miles depending on your area). TurboTax will walk you through Schedule C step by step when you select "self-employment income." Don't overthink the tip separation - focus on maximizing your legitimate business deductions instead!
Thanks Paolo! This is super helpful. I'm relieved I don't need to separate the tips. Quick question - when you say "phone bill percentage used for work," how do you figure out what percentage to use? I use my phone for the delivery apps but also personal stuff obviously. Is there like a standard percentage or do I need to track actual usage somehow? Also, do you know if car washes count as a business expense? I definitely wash my car more often now that I'm delivering food to people!
Isabella, I totally get the panic about that 1099-K amount! I went through the same thing my first year doing gig work. Everyone here is right - you don't need to separate tips from base pay for tax purposes since you're an independent contractor. One thing that might help ease your mind: that $24,680 is your GROSS income, not what you'll actually pay taxes on. After you deduct business expenses on Schedule C, your taxable income will be much lower. Since you mentioned using TurboTax, here's a tip that saved me tons of time: When you get to the self-employment section, TurboTax will ask about your business expenses in plain English. It'll specifically ask about vehicle expenses, and you can choose between actual expenses or the standard mileage deduction (usually better for gig workers). Don't forget about smaller expenses that add up: insulated bags, phone chargers, even hand sanitizer you bought for deliveries. Keep receipts going forward, but for this year, try to estimate what you spent on delivery-related items. The key is being reasonable and honest about your deductions. The IRS expects gig workers to have these types of expenses, so don't be afraid to claim legitimate business costs that helped you earn that income!
This is exactly the reassurance I needed! The idea that my taxable income will be much lower after deductions makes me feel so much better. I was literally losing sleep thinking I'd owe thousands in taxes on that $24,680. Quick question about the hand sanitizer and small items - do I need receipts for everything or can I estimate some of the smaller purchases? I definitely bought tons of sanitizer, extra phone chargers, and even got a car organizer specifically for deliveries, but I don't have receipts for all of it. Also, when TurboTax asks about vehicle expenses, should I definitely go with the standard mileage deduction? I haven't been tracking my actual car expenses like gas receipts and maintenance costs separately.
TillyCombatwarrior
I'm really sorry this happened to you - missing the 83(b) election deadline is one of those gut-punch moments that so many startup employees experience. The 30-day window is unfortunately non-negotiable, and I've seen countless people in similar situations over the years. Since your shares had a $0.00 FMV at grant, you would have had essentially no tax liability if you'd filed the election on time. Now you'll be taxed as ordinary income on whatever the fair market value is at each vesting date. Given that it's been about 1.5 years since your grant, your company may have had one or more 409A revaluations that could significantly impact your tax bill. My advice: reach out to your HR or equity administration team immediately to get the current 409A valuation. This will help you estimate what you'll owe when your first 25% vests. If the valuation has stayed relatively flat, your tax impact might be minimal. But if your company has grown or raised funding, you need to start preparing financially. Consider setting aside 35-45% of the estimated vested share value for taxes (this covers federal, state if applicable, and payroll taxes for most brackets). Also ask about your company's policy on share sales - if they don't allow employees to sell shares to cover taxes, you'll need to pay out of pocket. The good news is there are no penalties for not filing the election, and your cost basis will be stepped up to the FMV at vesting, so you won't face double taxation on sale. It's not the end of the world, just requires more careful tax planning going forward.
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CosmicCadet
ā¢This is incredibly thorough advice - thank you for laying out the practical steps so clearly! I'm actually in a similar boat with missed 83(b) elections from a previous startup, and the point about getting the current 409A valuation is spot on. One thing I learned from my situation: if your company has multiple share classes (common vs preferred), make sure you understand which class your equity represents when calculating potential tax liability. The 409A valuation might show different values for different share classes, and employees typically get common shares which are valued lower than preferred. This can actually work in your favor since the FMV for tax purposes might be less than you initially think. Also, for anyone reading this - if you're still within the 30-day window for a recent grant, don't make the same mistake! File that 83(b) election immediately, even if the current FMV is low. Better to be safe than sorry, and the election is pretty straightforward to complete.
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Marcus Marsh
I'm really sorry you're dealing with this - the missed 83(b) election is unfortunately a very common mistake that happens to so many startup employees. The 30-day deadline is absolute with no exceptions, so there's no way to retroactively file it now. Since your equity had a $0.00 fair market value when granted in January 2024, you would have owed virtually nothing in taxes if you had filed the election on time. Now you'll face ordinary income tax on the fair market value of your shares as they vest, which could be significant if your company's valuation has increased over the past 1.5 years. The most important thing now is to get ahead of the tax planning. I'd recommend immediately requesting the current 409A valuation from your company's finance or HR team so you can estimate what you'll owe when your first 25% vests. If your startup has raised funding or grown substantially, this could be a meaningful tax bill that you'll need to pay out of pocket (since most private companies don't allow share sales to cover taxes). Start setting aside cash now - generally 35-40% of the estimated vested share value should cover federal income tax, state taxes if applicable, and payroll taxes. Also consider whether you'll need to make quarterly estimated tax payments to avoid underpayment penalties. The silver lining is that there are no penalties for missing the election, and your cost basis will be stepped up to the FMV at each vesting date, so you won't be double-taxed when you eventually sell. It's definitely not ideal, but with proper planning, it's very manageable.
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Lucas Turner
ā¢This is really comprehensive advice, Marcus! I'm a newcomer here but dealing with a similar equity situation. One quick question - when you mention requesting the current 409A valuation from HR/finance, is this something they're typically willing to share with employees? I've been hesitant to ask because I wasn't sure if that information is usually considered confidential or if employees have a right to know the valuation that affects their tax liability. Also, for the quarterly estimated payments you mentioned - is there a threshold where this becomes necessary? I'm trying to figure out if my situation would trigger the need for quarterly payments or if I can just handle it at year-end filing.
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Dananyl Lear
ā¢@Lucas Turner - Great questions! Most companies are actually pretty transparent about sharing 409A valuations with employees since it directly impacts their tax obligations. The valuation determines how much tax you ll'owe on vested shares, so you have a legitimate business need to know. I d'frame it as I "need to understand my potential tax liability for financial planning purposes when" you ask. For quarterly payments, the general rule is if you expect to owe $1,000 or more in taxes for the year beyond (what s'withheld from your regular paychecks ,)you should make quarterly payments to avoid underpayment penalties. Given that startup equity can create substantial tax bills, especially if your company s'valuation has grown, you ll'likely cross this threshold. The IRS expects you to pay as you earn, not wait until April. A tax professional can help calculate the exact quarterly payment amounts based on your vesting schedule and estimated share values. It s'much better to overpay slightly than get hit with penalties later. The quarterly due dates are mid-month Jan (15, April 15, June 15, Sept 15 ,)so plan accordingly around your vesting dates.
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