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I've been living in Washington state for years and honestly the community property thing isn't that bad once you get used to it. The 50/50 split actually helped us when my wife started making way more than me - evened out our tax brackets. Pro tip: keep really good records of what property/assets you had BEFORE marriage because that stays separate property. Made that mistake our first year filing and it was a nightmare sorting it out.
Do you know if common property rules still apply if you're legally married but have a prenup? Our agreement specifically states our incomes remain separate, but I'm not sure if the IRS cares about that for Form 8958 purposes.
Yes, the IRS does actually recognize prenups for tax purposes in community property states, but the rules are very specific. Your prenup needs to explicitly outline how income and assets should be treated (not just a general "our incomes are separate" statement). You'll still need to fill out Form 8958, but you would allocate income according to your prenup rather than the standard 50/50 split. However, make sure your prenup complies with your state's requirements for it to be valid - some states have very specific rules about prenups overriding community property laws.
random question but does anyone know if crypto gains count as community property? bought bitcoin before marriage but sold during. tax software is giving me weird results when i split it 50/50 vs claiming it all myself
Generally, if you bought it before marriage, the original investment stays your separate property. However, any appreciation during marriage is typically considered community property in most community property states. So you'd need to establish the value at the time of marriage and then split the gains from that point forward.
One thing that nobody mentioned yet - check your final pay stubs from both jobs! They won't replace your W-2s, but they can help you verify that the information on your W-2s is correct, or give you estimates if you're missing a form. Your last pay stub of the year often has year-to-date totals for: - Total wages earned - Federal tax withheld - State tax withheld - Social Security and Medicare taxes I've caught mistakes on W-2s before by comparing to my pay stubs. It happens more often than you'd think, especially with smaller employers!
What happens if the numbers don't match between my last pay stub and W-2? My retail job's W-2 shows about $200 less in income than my December pay stub indicated for the year.
If there's a discrepancy between your W-2 and pay stubs, first check if there's a logical explanation. Sometimes the last paycheck of December might be paid in January, which would explain why the W-2 total is lower than your December pay stub shows. If there's no clear explanation, contact your employer's payroll department directly. They can check their records and issue a corrected W-2 (called a W-2c) if needed. Small differences might occur due to non-taxable benefits or other adjustments, but anything significant should definitely be investigated before you file.
I made a huge mistake my first time filing with multiple W-2s. I only reported one of them thinking I could just do the other one later or something? Anyway, I got a scary letter from the IRS months later saying I underreported my income and owed more taxes plus interest. Don't be like me!! Make absolutely certain you include BOTH W-2s when you file. The IRS already knows about all your jobs because your employers report that info directly to them. If what you report doesn't match what they already know, it triggers automatic flags in their system.
As a healthcare contractor who formed an S Corp three years ago at $110k income, I'll share my actual experience: 1) Reasonable salary: I set mine at 60% of my total income because I could justify that based on Bureau of Labor Statistics data for my specialty. The key is having documentation that supports your methodology. 2) Startup costs: Initial setup was $1,400 with my accountant, plus $500 state filing fees. Annual costs include $1,100 for payroll service, $2,200 for accounting/tax prep, and $300 in state fees. Total recurring annual cost: ~$3,600. 3) Time cost: Don't underestimate this! I spend about 2-3 hours monthly on additional paperwork/compliance that I didn't have to do as a sole proprietor. 4) Savings: At my income level, I'm saving about $4,500 annually after expenses. Is it worth it? For me, yes, but barely. If I was making $75k, probably not. 5) Unexpected benefit: Having an S Corp has actually helped me land contracts with larger healthcare systems that prefer working with corporations over sole proprietors. The real value starts to show at $150k+ based on my calculations. Below $100k, the administrative burden probably outweighs the tax savings.
This is super helpful real-world experience. Quick question - did you use a local accountant or one of those online S Corp formation services? I'm trying to decide which route to go.
I started with a local accountant who specializes in healthcare professionals. It cost more initially, but he provided valuable industry-specific advice that generic online services wouldn't have known. For example, he helped structure my contracts to strengthen the case that I'm truly an independent contractor rather than an employee, which helps both with S Corp justification and avoiding potential misclassification issues. After the first year, I switched to a more affordable online accounting service for the routine stuff, but I still consult with the local specialist once a year for planning. This hybrid approach gives me the best of both worlds - specialized knowledge when needed and lower ongoing costs.
One aspect nobody's mentioned is health insurance. As a >2% S Corp shareholder, your health insurance premiums can't be paid pre-tax through the company like regular employees. Instead, the company pays them, includes them as taxable wages on your W-2, then you deduct them on your personal return. This gets complicated and can impact your overall savings calculations, especially if you're purchasing your own health insurance as a healthcare contractor. Also, retirement options change. SEP IRAs are simple as a sole proprietor, but S Corps often use Solo 401(k)s instead, which allow for potentially higher contributions but more paperwork. Consider these factors in your total cost/benefit analysis. The tax savings need to outweigh ALL the additional complexities.
Does this health insurance thing apply to dental and vision too? And what about HSA contributions? I'm trying to figure out if all these complexities are worth the savings.
Have you considered setting up a separate handyman LLC and then hiring yourself? I've heard of people doing this for similar situations to capture the labor value.
That sounds like it could trigger some red flags. Wouldn't the IRS consider that arrangement suspicious if the only client of your handyman business is your other business?
You're right that if the handyman LLC only did work for your primary business, it could definitely look suspicious. The arrangement works better if you're legitimately doing handyman work for other clients too. You'd need to charge market rates to all clients including your own business, keep separate books, maintain proper insurance, and fulfill all requirements of a legitimate business. It's definitely not a simple workaround and probably not worth it just for occasional home repairs.
What about the home office deduction simplified method? I use that (the $5 per square foot up to 300 sq ft) instead of calculating percentages. Does anyone know if repair costs are just completely irrelevant if you use that method?
Yes, if you're using the simplified method ($5 per sq ft), then you cannot deduct any actual expenses related to your home, including repairs. The simplified deduction is meant to replace ALL home-related expenses including mortgage interest, utilities, repairs, etc.
DeShawn Washington
Something else to consider that nobody's mentioned - make sure your friend reports this property sale on their home country tax return too! Depending where they live now, they might get foreign tax credits for the taxes paid in Canada. I'm a dual US/Canada citizen and had to report my Canadian property sale on both returns. The US gave me a foreign tax credit for what I paid to Canada, which prevented double taxation. Most countries have tax treaties with Canada that work this way.
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Daryl Bright
โขThat's a really good point I hadn't even thought about! My friend is living in Germany now - would they have a similar tax treaty situation? How complicated is it to claim those foreign tax credits?
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DeShawn Washington
โขYes, Germany and Canada do have a tax treaty that should prevent double taxation. Your friend will need to report the Canadian property sale on their German tax return, but they can claim a credit for taxes paid in Canada. For claiming the credits, they'll need documentation showing the exact amount of Canadian tax paid specifically attributable to the property sale. The process isn't super complicated, but it does require careful documentation. Make sure they keep copies of their Canadian non-resident return, the T2062 form, and proof of the tax withholding and any refund they receive. German tax authorities may want to see these documents.
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Mei-Ling Chen
One more thing to watch for - if your friend owned this place before 1994, there's potentially an additional adjustment to the cost base from the capital gains election that was available back then. My parents missed this when they sold their Vancouver property and it cost them thousands.
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Sofรญa Rodrรญguez
โขThis is so true! My family had the same issue with a property in Montreal. The 1994 capital gains election can make a huge difference in the adjusted cost base. Also worth noting that if they ever did any major renovations, those costs should be added to the ACB as well.
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Mei-Ling Chen
โขYeah, finding documentation from 20+ years ago can be a real challenge though. If they made the election back in 1994, the CRA should have it on file, but you might need to specifically request that information. Some accountants keep spreadsheets showing the impact of various capital gains changes over the years for long-term held properties. Especially important for non-residents since they don't get the principal residence exemption for years they weren't Canadian residents.
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