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For what it's worth, I used 1-800Accountant last year for my SMLLC and I wasn't impressed. The initial consultations were good, but once I paid, I had a hard time getting consistent support. Different accountants would give me different answers to the same questions about deductions. For the price, I expected more personalized service. I ended up switching to a local CPA who charges me $150/month for bookkeeping oversight plus $800 for year-end tax prep. Much more reasonable and I get better service from someone who actually knows my business.
Did they at least help with setting up your books initially? That's what I'm most worried about - getting started with the right systems.
They did provide initial setup help with QuickBooks, which was somewhat useful. They created a chart of accounts specific to my industry and showed me how to categorize expenses properly for a SMLLC. They also helped set up integration with my business bank account. The issue I ran into was more with ongoing support and inconsistent advice after the initial setup. For just getting your books set up correctly from the start, they might be okay, but you could probably find a local bookkeeper to do that initial setup for much less than their full package price.
Has anyone tried using tax software like TurboTax for handling SMLLC taxes? I'm trying to decide if I should just DIY this with some software or if I really need professional help.
I used TurboTax Self-Employed for my single-member LLC last year. It worked fine for me, but my business is pretty simple - just consulting services with minimal expenses. The software walked me through Schedule C and self-employment tax calculations. If your business has inventory, employees, or more complex deductions, you might want more help than just tax software. Also, TurboTax doesn't help with quarterly estimated payments during the year - you'll need to figure those out yourself.
Just wanted to add that you can also file Form 843 "Claim for Refund and Request for Abatement" to request removal of underpayment penalties. Make sure to include all your documentation showing you qualified for the safe harbor provision. I did this last year and it took about 7 weeks, but the penalties were removed and I got my money back.
Would this work even if I've already paid the penalty? I just went ahead and paid the $220 penalty because I didn't want it to accrue more interest, but now I'm thinking I actually qualified for safe harbor.
Yes, it absolutely works even if you've already paid. The Form 843 can be used to request a refund of penalties you've already paid, not just an abatement of unpaid penalties. Just make sure to check the "Interest" box in Item 5a and explain in detail that you're requesting a refund of underpayment interest because you qualified for the safe harbor provision. Include copies of both tax years' returns to prove you met the requirements. Also enter the date you paid the penalty in section 2, and they'll refund it if your request is approved.
Has anyone had success getting penalties removed because of personal hardship? I had a medical emergency in 2023 that drained my savings which is why I couldn't make estimated payments, even though I knew I wasn't withholding enough.
Yes, the IRS does have a "reasonable cause" provision where they can waive penalties for hardship situations. Medical emergencies can absolutely qualify. You'll need to submit a letter explaining the situation with documentation of your medical issues and how they impacted your ability to pay.
Just to add some clarification since i worked as a tax preparer during COVID: The Form 8915 series was specifically for retirement distributions: - Form 8915-E: For coronavirus-related distributions in 2020 - Form 8915-F: For qualified disaster distributions in later years The CARES Act allowed people affected by COVID to: 1. Withdraw up to $100,000 from retirement accounts without the 10% early withdrawal penalty 2. Spread the income (and tax) over 3 years 3. Repay the distributions within 3 years if they wanted This is completely separate from stimulus checks (Economic Impact Payments) which were handled through Recovery Rebate Credits on your regular 1040.
Was there a deadline to file the 8915-E form? My brother took money from his 401k during COVID but I don't think he ever filed that form. Is he in trouble with the IRS now?
Yes, there was a deadline for taking the qualified distributions - December 30, 2020. The distributions had to be reported on Form 8915-E which would have been filed with the 2020 tax return (or potentially spread over returns for 2020, 2021, and 2022 if he chose to spread the income). If he took a distribution but didn't file Form 8915-E, he may have paid the 10% early withdrawal penalty unnecessarily. He could potentially file an amended return for 2020 to claim the special treatment if he qualified. The IRS generally allows amendments within 3 years of the original filing date, so he might still have time depending on when he filed his 2020 return.
Does anyone know if TurboTax automatically creates Form 8915 if you answer "yes" to those questions? I'm wondering if I might have filed one without realizing it.
Another thing to consider is your long-term financial goals. If you're planning to claim education tax credits like the Lifetime Learning Credit or the American Opportunity Credit, make sure the capital loss deduction doesn't interfere with those. Sometimes lowering your AGI too much can affect your eligibility for certain credits.
That's really helpful advice! We do claim education credits each year. Would taking the capital loss deduction potentially mess with those benefits? What should I watch out for?
Generally, lowering your AGI with capital losses is actually beneficial for most education credits since many have income phaseout limits. The American Opportunity Credit starts phasing out at $80,000 for single filers and $160,000 for joint filers, while the Lifetime Learning Credit begins phasing out at $80,000 for single and $160,000 for joint filers. Capital losses that reduce your AGI could potentially help you stay under these thresholds if you're close to them. However, if your income is already low, you should ensure you have enough tax liability for non-refundable credits to be applied against. The AOTC is partially refundable, but the LLC is not refundable at all.
Just be careful with the timing... if you sell in December 2024, remember you'll need to realize any offsetting gains also in 2024. If you wait until January to sell, the loss will count for your 2025 taxes instead. This bit me last year when I sold some losers in December thinking I was being smart but then realized gains in January, so I couldn't offset them!
Question - does it matter which lots you sell if you bought the same stock multiple times? Do you have to sell everything or can you pick which purchases to sell?
Henrietta Beasley
I think it really depends on what's on your Robinhood 1099. If you have crypto or options trading, those are WAY more complicated than regular stock trades and take a lot more time to process correctly. I used to prepare taxes and we charged based on complexity, not just the number of forms.
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Carmella Fromis
ā¢Thanks for the insight! I just checked and my Robinhood account does have about 3 crypto trades (just some dabbling in Bitcoin and Ethereum) along with the 5 regular stock trades. Would that really justify doubling my tax prep fee though? Did your firm have a set price for crypto transactions?
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Henrietta Beasley
ā¢Yes, crypto trades absolutely can justify a significant price increase. Cryptocurrency reporting is complicated because the IRS treats them as property, not currency, which means each transaction requires determining cost basis and holding period, plus special wash sale considerations. We typically charged 50-100% more for returns with crypto because of the extra work and risk involved. Many tax professionals are also wary of crypto because the reporting requirements are still evolving, and they take on additional liability. If you only have 3 basic crypto trades, you might be able to negotiate, but the extra $200 for a combination of stock and crypto transactions isn't outrageous by industry standards.
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Lincoln Ramiro
Maybe try asking your CPA to explain exactly why the Robinhood form costs extra? Sometimes they have good reasons but don't communicate them well. I thought mine was overcharging last year until she showed me all the extra forms and worksheets she had to complete for my investments.
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Faith Kingston
ā¢This is good advice. My tax guy breaks down all his fees upfront - basic return is X amount, Schedule C adds Y, investment forms add Z, etc. Makes it easy to know what you're paying for.
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