How to claim tax deduction for Mullen stock losses
I bought some Mullen Automotive shares through Schwab back in 2022 (big mistake - I just followed the hype on social media) thankfully it wasn't a huge investment, around $1,350. My husband and I are both in our doctoral programs without regular income except for our savings and the stipends we get as Graduate Assistants in our departments. I'm completely lost because almost all the money I invested in Mullen has evaporated to practically nothing after their reverse stock split. Currently showing a loss of about $1,280 in my portfolio but I haven't sold yet. Would it make sense to sell before the end of 2024 to claim the capital loss on my taxes, or just hold onto the shares? Any tax advice or suggestions? Thanks so much for your help!
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Zoe Stavros
Taking the tax loss now could be a smart move. When you sell investments at a loss, you can use those losses to offset capital gains from other investments. If you don't have capital gains, you can use up to $3,000 of capital losses to reduce your ordinary income each year. Since you mentioned you're graduate assistants with limited income, even a $1,280 loss deduction could potentially lower your tax bracket or increase your refund. Any losses beyond $3,000 can be carried forward to future tax years. The key consideration is whether you believe Mullen stock will recover. If you think it's unlikely to bounce back, selling now gives you a guaranteed tax benefit rather than holding a potentially worthless investment.
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Jamal Harris
•But if they're grad students with minimal income, would they even benefit from the tax loss? Also, is there any wash sale rule to worry about if they wanted to buy back in later?
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Zoe Stavros
•Even with minimal income, the tax loss can still be beneficial. The deduction reduces their taxable income dollar-for-dollar up to $3,000 per year. If they're earning stipends as GAs, those are typically taxable, so the deduction would directly reduce that taxable amount. Regarding the wash sale rule, that's a good point. If they sell at a loss and buy substantially identical securities within 30 days before or after the sale, they can't claim the loss for tax purposes. So if they're considering buying Mullen stock again, they should wait at least 31 days after selling to avoid wash sale rules disallowing the loss.
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GalaxyGlider
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Mei Wong
•How does it work with crypto losses? I've got some underwater positions I want to claim but not sure if the same rules apply.
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Liam Sullivan
•Is it really worth using a service? Can't you just report the losses when you file with TurboTax or whatever? The brokerage sends you the forms anyway.
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GalaxyGlider
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Liam Sullivan
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Amara Okafor
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Giovanni Colombo
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Fatima Al-Qasimi
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Amara Okafor
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Fatima Al-Qasimi
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StarStrider
Another thing to consider is your long-term financial goals. If you're planning to claim education tax credits like the Lifetime Learning Credit or the American Opportunity Credit, make sure the capital loss deduction doesn't interfere with those. Sometimes lowering your AGI too much can affect your eligibility for certain credits.
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Andre Rousseau
•That's really helpful advice! We do claim education credits each year. Would taking the capital loss deduction potentially mess with those benefits? What should I watch out for?
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StarStrider
•Generally, lowering your AGI with capital losses is actually beneficial for most education credits since many have income phaseout limits. The American Opportunity Credit starts phasing out at $80,000 for single filers and $160,000 for joint filers, while the Lifetime Learning Credit begins phasing out at $80,000 for single and $160,000 for joint filers. Capital losses that reduce your AGI could potentially help you stay under these thresholds if you're close to them. However, if your income is already low, you should ensure you have enough tax liability for non-refundable credits to be applied against. The AOTC is partially refundable, but the LLC is not refundable at all.
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Dylan Campbell
Just be careful with the timing... if you sell in December 2024, remember you'll need to realize any offsetting gains also in 2024. If you wait until January to sell, the loss will count for your 2025 taxes instead. This bit me last year when I sold some losers in December thinking I was being smart but then realized gains in January, so I couldn't offset them!
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Sofia Torres
•Question - does it matter which lots you sell if you bought the same stock multiple times? Do you have to sell everything or can you pick which purchases to sell?
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