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Last year I got my trace number on March 5th with a pending date of March 7th. The money showed up in my account at 12:01 AM on March 7th - I literally stayed up to watch for it because I needed it for my car payment! Every bank is different though. My sister has the same pending date through Chase and didn't get hers until almost noon. I'd say once you have that trace number, you're in the home stretch. The anxiety of waiting for tax refunds is something we all go through every year!
Congrats on getting your trace number! That's definitely a relief when you finally have that confirmation. I went through the same thing last year - had to call TurboTax because their app wasn't showing the trace number either. It's frustrating when the technology doesn't work as expected, but at least their phone support was able to help. In my experience, once you have that trace number and pending date, you're pretty much guaranteed to get your refund. The 2/24 date they gave you should be accurate. I'd expect to see it either late on 2/23 (some banks process overnight) or early morning on 2/24. My credit union usually posts these around 6 AM on the scheduled date. The hardest part is just the waiting now! But you're so close. Having that trace number means all the processing is done and it's just a matter of the money moving through the system. Good luck!
Is this your first time filing with this bank account? I've noticed that first-time direct deposits to accounts seem to take longer than deposits to accounts you've used with the IRS before. Also, did you get your refund through a tax preparer who takes their fees out of your refund? Those sometimes go through a third-party bank first which adds extra time.
I'm going through the exact same thing right now! Had my 846 code with today's date (3/21) on my transcript, got my trace number yesterday, but my bank account is still showing zero pending deposits. I've been checking obsessively every few hours and starting to wonder if something went wrong. Reading through all these responses is actually really reassuring - sounds like this 24-48 hour delay between IRS sending and bank posting is pretty normal. I'm going to try to be patient and check again tomorrow morning. Has anyone else with a 3/21 deposit date actually received their funds yet today?
Anyone know if weight loss programs are HSA eligible? I've heard conflicting things. My doctor told me to lose weight but didn't write an official prescription for a program.
Weight loss programs CAN be HSA eligible, but only if you've been diagnosed with a specific medical condition where weight loss is part of the treatment. General "you should lose some weight" advice isn't enough. You need an obesity diagnosis or something like hypertension, diabetes, etc., where weight loss is a prescribed treatment.
As someone who's dealt with similar HSA frustrations, I completely understand your anger about this backwards system! What helped me was learning that while we can't change the current rules overnight, there ARE some strategies to maximize what we can use HSA funds for within the existing framework. Beyond the great advice already shared about Letters of Medical Necessity, here are a few other things that might help: Many people don't realize that things like air purifiers, ergonomic equipment for work-related injuries, and even certain mattresses can be HSA-eligible with proper documentation. Also, if you're doing all this preventative work and still end up with any health issues, keep detailed records of how your healthy lifestyle has helped - this documentation could be valuable if rules ever do change. For advocacy, the HSA Coalition and similar organizations are actively working to expand eligible expenses. Following their work and supporting their efforts might be more effective than individual petitions. The fact that over-the-counter medications were recently added shows the system can evolve, even if slowly.
I used FreeTaxUSA for my 2020 return last year but had to print and mail it. Their software was still able to prepare it correctly though, and it only cost me like $15 for the state return (federal was free). Might be worth checking if they can still prepare 2019 returns even if you have to mail it.
That's a good idea, I'll check if they support 2019 returns. At least the software would do the calculations for me even if I have to print and mail it.
I went through this exact same situation last year with my 2018 return. Unfortunately, you're definitely stuck with paper filing at this point - the e-file system has been closed for 2019 returns for over a year now. Here's what I learned from my experience: definitely use certified mail with tracking, make multiple copies of everything before you send it, and be prepared for a LONG wait. My return took about 8 months to process, but I did eventually get my refund plus all the stimulus money I had missed. One thing that really helped me was getting my tax transcript first (you can get it online from the IRS website) so I knew exactly what they had on file for me. That way I could make sure my return matched up with what they expected. The good news is that if you're owed a refund, there are no penalties for filing late. Just make sure you get it in before the 3-year deadline or you'll lose the refund forever. Hang in there - it's a pain but you'll get through it!
Nia Thompson
Make sure you document EVERYTHING about your working conditions! I made the mistake of not keeping enough evidence when I was in a similar situation. The more documentation you have about schedule control, micromanagement, etc., the stronger your SS-8 case will be. The fact that he controlled bathroom breaks is a HUGE red flag that proves employee status. Also, the firing after asking for a rate increase that accounted for self-employment taxes shows bad faith. The IRS takes these misclassification cases very seriously now since they lose so much tax revenue from it.
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Mateo Rodriguez
ā¢What kind of documentation would be most helpful? I kept some of my old timesheets and have text messages about schedules.
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Giovanni Conti
This is a textbook case of employee misclassification! The level of control your employer had over your work environment - mandatory schedules, micromanaging bathroom breaks, controlling your work location, and even timing your breaks - clearly indicates you were an employee, not an independent contractor. A few key points to consider: 1. **Don't sign the W-9** - By signing it now, you'd be validating their misclassification. You have every right to refuse. 2. **File Form SS-8 immediately** - This asks the IRS to make an official determination about your worker status. Given the facts you've described, it's very likely they'll rule in your favor. 3. **Document everything** - Save all communications, schedules, payment records, and any evidence of the micromanagement you described. 4. **Consider Form 8919** - You can file this with your tax return to pay only the employee portion of Social Security and Medicare taxes while the SS-8 is pending. The fact that he's paying everyone through Venmo and requiring W-9s from all staff while maintaining complete schedule control suggests systematic misclassification. This could result in significant penalties for the employer. You're absolutely doing the right thing by questioning this situation - employee misclassification costs workers thousands in extra taxes and lost benefits.
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