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Has anyone actually had an IRS notice or audit where this specific issue came up? I'm wondering how the IRS computer matching system handles 1099-MISC Box 3 income that's reported on Form 8825 instead of appearing directly on Form 1065.
That's really helpful to know! Thanks for sharing your real experience. I'll make sure to have solid documentation ready in case we get a similar notice. Did you respond to the notice yourself or have your accountant handle it?
Our accountant drafted the response, but we had to provide all the backup documentation showing these were actually rental payments. The key was having the platform statements that clearly showed these were payments for specific rental properties. Our accountant said the IRS sees this issue frequently with vacation rental partnerships using platforms like Airbnb, VRBO, etc.
One thing nobody's mentioned - if your partnership uses the accrual method of accounting, make sure you're reporting the income in the correct tax year. 1099-MISC reports are based on when the payment is made (cash basis), but if you're on accrual, you need to report income when earned regardless of when the 1099 shows it was paid. This can cause even more confusion with matching. Our partnership had this exact issue where a December booking was paid in January, creating a mismatch between our accrual-based 8825 and the cash-based 1099-MISC reporting.
Omg that's a really good point I hadn't even considered! We are on accrual basis, and we definitely have December bookings that get paid out in January. Now I'm worried about potential mismatches. How did you handle this in your case?
We included a separate reconciliation schedule that showed: 1) income per 1099s received for the tax year, 2) plus accrued income from prior year paid in current year, 3) minus income accrued in current year but paid in next year, 4) equals income reported on tax return. Basically you want to show the math of how you get from your 1099 amounts to what's on your return. We also noted which specific properties had timing differences. It's a bit more work, but it creates a clear audit trail.
I've been doing my own taxes for years, and I've found that these small 1099-INT issues come up more often than people realize. My rule of thumb is to look at the actual tax impact - for $21 of interest, even at the highest tax bracket, we're talking about less than $10 in actual tax. Remember that the 1099-INT reporting threshold for banks is $10 - meaning they don't even have to send you a form if it's under that amount. While technically all income is taxable no matter how small, there's a practical aspect to enforcement. I'd just make sure to include it next year and not worry about amending.
Do you know if the same applies to dividends on a 1099-DIV? I just found one for $18 that I missed from a small investment account I rarely check.
Yes, the same practical considerations apply to small dividend amounts on a 1099-DIV. For $18 in dividends, the tax impact would be minimal, similar to the interest example we've been discussing. The reporting threshold for 1099-DIV is also $10, just like with interest income. While all income is technically taxable, the IRS generally focuses enforcement resources on larger discrepancies. Just make sure to include all your 1099s next year to avoid this worry altogether. Setting a calendar reminder when tax season approaches can help you remember to gather all your forms before filing.
One thing nobody's mentioned - if you use tax software like TurboTax or H&R Block, amending is easier than it used to be. Most of them now have an "amend return" feature built in that's pretty straightforward. Still probably not worth it for $21, but just FYI it's not as painful as it once was.
Thanks for that tip! I did use TurboTax so that's good to know. After reading all the advice here, I'm leaning toward not amending for such a small amount. Next year I'll be more careful about checking for all my 1099 forms before filing!
One thing nobody's mentioned - be sure to make your first payment on time even if you don't have official confirmation yet! If you set up a payment plan through TurboTax, they should have given you payment information including the amount and due date for your first payment. Stick to that schedule. Missing your first payment could void your entire payment plan, even if the plan itself hasn't been officially confirmed by the IRS yet. This happened to my brother last year and it was a nightmare to fix.
That's a really good point I hadn't considered. My first payment is supposed to be due on May 15th according to what I set up in TurboTax. Should I just go ahead and make that payment to the IRS directly if I still don't have confirmation by then?
Yes, absolutely make that May 15th payment even without official confirmation. You can pay directly through the IRS Direct Pay system on their website - just make sure to select the correct tax year and payment type (installment agreement). This way you're covered no matter what. If your payment plan is already in their system, the payment will be correctly applied to it. If there was some glitch and the plan wasn't properly set up, you've still made a payment toward your tax debt before any serious penalties kick in.
Has anyone ever had a payment plan completely disappear? Like, you set it up through TurboTax but the IRS has no record of it? I'm worried this might happen to me too.
It happened to me once! Turned out TurboTax had a transmission error with that part of my return. I had to call the IRS and set up the payment plan directly with them. They were actually pretty understanding about it and didn't charge me any late fees since I could prove I tried to set it up on time.
One thing nobody's mentioned that you should consider - make sure you're documenting this transaction properly. My family did something similar and years later the IRS questioned whether it was a legitimate loan vs. a gift of the entire property amount. You should: 1. Have a properly drafted promissory note or deed contract 2. Set a fixed repayment schedule 3. Keep records of all payments 4. Make sure the loan is secured by the property 5. Have the document properly recorded where required by local law The fact that it's a legitimate transaction with regular payments will help establish that it's a true loan, despite the 0% interest rate.
This is really helpful advice. Should we get an attorney involved to draft the documents properly? Is there anything specific we should include in the promissory note to make it clear this is a legitimate loan transaction?
Yes, I would definitely recommend having an attorney draft or at least review your documents. The cost of legal help upfront is much less than dealing with IRS issues later. Make sure your promissory note includes all standard loan terms - principal amount, payment schedule, consequences for default, security interest in the property, etc. Even though there's no interest, everything else should look like a standard loan. Also include language acknowledging that both parties understand there may be imputed interest for tax purposes. Having your uncles keep a payment ledger showing receipt of your payments provides additional documentation of the loan's legitimacy.
Has anyone mentioned the possible income tax deduction for you? If this is investment property producing income, you might be able to deduct the imputed interest as an investment interest expense, even though you're not actually paying it. Might want to look into that angle too.
Sean Matthews
We moved from Onesource to Drake for our partnership returns last year and honestly it was a mixed bag. The price is WAY better, but we did lose some of the more sophisticated allocation features. For a large firm doing complex 1065 work, I'd probably look at GoSystem Tax RS if you want high-end features with better support. The transition was somewhat painful tho - expect at least a full tax season before your team is fully comfortable.
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Ali Anderson
ā¢Did you have any data migration issues? We have 10+ years of client data in Onesource and I'm worried about losing historical information. Were you able to bring over basis info and carryforwards?
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Sean Matthews
ā¢Data migration was our biggest headache. Most basics transferred okay, but partnership basis information had to be manually verified for every partner. We lost some of the historical allocation details and had to rebuild them. Carryforwards like capital losses and charitable contributions were particularly problematic - about 25% had errors we had to fix manually. If you do switch, I highly recommend running parallel systems for a year and comparing outputs before fully committing. Budget extra staff time for data verification during the transition.
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Zadie Patel
Has anyone here used both Lacerte and ProSeries for 1065s? We're a smaller firm (but growing) trying to decide between the two. Currently using ProSeries but wondering if Lacerte is worth the higher price for partnership returns specifically?
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A Man D Mortal
ā¢I've used both extensively. For partnerships specifically, Lacerte is significantly better - especially for complex allocations and multi-tiered partnerships. The additional cost pays for itself in time savings and reduced errors. ProSeries struggles with more complex 1065s and the data entry flow isn't as intuitive.
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