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From my understanding, the IRS might view this differently than just normal gifts back and forth. When you transfer property to avoid creditors and then get it back later, they could potentially see this as you maintaining beneficial ownership the entire time (meaning you never really gave up ownership in substance, just on paper). If that's how they interpret it, your basis would still be your original purchase price plus improvements. But there could be other issues to consider beyond just basis calculation.
Thanks for this perspective. I'm worried the IRS might see it that way too. Do you think I should consult with a tax attorney before selling? I'm concerned about potential penalties beyond just calculating the basis wrong.
Consulting with a tax attorney would definitely be a good idea in your situation. They can review the specific details of your transfers and advise you not just on the correct basis calculation but also on any potential exposure you might have regarding the transfers themselves. A good tax attorney can also help you understand the statute of limitations that might apply to your situation and develop a strategy for how to properly document and report the sale to minimize your risk of problems down the road. The peace of mind alone is probably worth the consultation fee.
Has anyone considered the possible gift tax implications of these transfers? When the property was transferred to the mother and then back again, were gift tax returns filed? That could affect how the IRS views the basis.
Something nobody's mentioned yet - if your husband is a W-2 employee and the company isn't reporting the stipend on his W-2, they're actually breaking tax law. Is there a reason they're not including it? Some companies try to "help" employees by not reporting certain payments, but this can create bigger problems down the road if you get audited. If the stipend is truly meant to reimburse business expenses, the company should have what's called an "accountable plan" where your husband submits documentation of business expenses and gets reimbursed. Those reimbursements wouldn't be taxable. But a flat stipend without documentation requirements is considered taxable income by the IRS. I'd talk to the employer about this first before trying to get creative with your tax return. They might not realize they're handling it incorrectly.
Thank you for this perspective. My husband's company is pretty small (only 15 employees) and I think they're just not sophisticated with their accounting. When I asked him about it, he said they just direct deposit this extra amount every month with a note saying "travel" and have never asked for any kind of documentation. Should he just start tracking his miles anyway even if they don't require it?
Yes, he should absolutely start tracking his miles regardless of what the company requires. Use an app or a mileage log that records the date, business purpose, starting point, destination, and total miles for each business trip. This documentation will be invaluable if you're ever audited. With a small company, it's worth having a conversation with whoever handles payroll. They might genuinely not know the proper way to handle this. Many small businesses try to help employees with these stipends without realizing they're creating tax problems. You could suggest they implement a simple accountable plan where employees submit mileage logs monthly. This would make the stipend non-taxable when handled correctly, which benefits both the employee and employer (they wouldn't have to pay payroll taxes on properly documented reimbursements).
Late to the conversation but wanted to add that you actually CAN deduct car payments if you're self-employed and use the actual expense method instead of the standard mileage rate. You'd need to track the business use percentage and apply that to your car expenses. If he's using the car 80% for business, you could deduct 80% of the interest on the car loan (not the principal), 80% of gas, insurance, repairs, etc. OR you could take the standard mileage rate which is simpler but might be less depending on your car's actual expenses.
That's not entirely correct. You can't deduct both the standard mileage rate AND car payments. You have to choose one method - either standard mileage OR actual expenses. And with actual expenses, you can only deduct the interest portion of the car payment, not the principal, plus depreciation. And once you choose actual expenses for a leased vehicle, you have to use that method for the life of the vehicle.
Former tax preparer here. The Saver's Credit confusion is super common. Here's a simple explanation: Let's say you'd normally owe $500 in taxes after all calculations. With the $406 Saver's Credit, you'd now only owe $94. If your withholding from paychecks was $745, your refund would be $745 - $94 = $651. Without the credit, your refund would be $745 - $500 = $245. So the credit is already baked into your $651 refund amount. Paying H&R Block $39 won't get you anything extra since you're already getting the credit. Also, check out FreeTaxUSA - they include the Saver's Credit form in their free version, and only charge like $15 for state filing.
But is the Saver's Credit refundable? Like if I had $0 tax liability could I still get the $406?
The Saver's Credit is non-refundable, which means it can only reduce your tax liability to zero, but not below zero. So if your tax liability was only $200 before credits, you'd only benefit from $200 of the $406 credit, not the full amount. This is different from refundable credits like the Earned Income Credit or Additional Child Tax Credit, which can give you money back even if you don't owe any tax.
I'm doing my taxes with H&R Block free right now too. Where exactly did you see that Saver's Credit? I went through all the deductions and credits screens but don't see it mentioned anywhere. Did you have to do something special to trigger it?
Some companies are just terrible about getting 1099s out on time. Last year I had a client who didn't send mine until March despite multiple reminders! What I ended up doing was creating a really detailed spreadsheet of all the invoices and payments, then filed with that info. The 1099 finally showed up later and the numbers matched my records exactly. If you know how much you earned from them, you can still file your taxes without waiting. As long as you report the income accurately, you're meeting your obligation. The 1099 is more about the IRS tracking that companies are properly reporting payments than it is about you proving your income.
That makes sense, but wouldn't you need the 1099 to have their tax ID number? Or is that not really necessary when you're filing?
Great question! You actually don't need their tax ID number to report self-employment income on your Schedule C. You'll list your income in total rather than breaking it down by each payer. The tax ID number is more important for the company issuing the 1099 for their reporting requirements. If you're dealing with 1099-MISC or 1099-NEC forms, you'd typically just report the total income on your Schedule C without needing to list each company's ID. Now, if you're dealing with other types of 1099s like interest or dividends, those might require more specific reporting. But for standard freelance/contractor work, you're good to go with just accurately reporting the amount you earned.
This happened to me last year with a new client! The company was a startup and their finance person had no idea about the January 31 deadline π€¦ββοΈ I ended up filing Form 4852 (substitute for missing W-2/1099) with my tax return. You basically create your own substitute based on your records.
Is there any downside to filing that substitute form? Like does it trigger an audit or anything?
Diego Mendoza
I was in almost this exact situation last year with my ex. We were separated for 8 months but not legally divorced by year-end. My advice? Protect yourself first. We tried filing jointly because it saved him about $4,000, but then he never paid his portion of what we owed. Guess who the IRS came after for the entire amount? ME. Even though we had a written agreement about splitting the tax bill, the IRS doesn't care about that - they just want their money. If you do file jointly, make sure you get his portion of any tax due BEFORE you file. Don't trust promises to pay later. And know that if he has any issues like unreported income, back child support, or defaulted student loans, any joint refund could be seized to cover his debts. Filing separately might cost you both more in total taxes, but the peace of mind knowing you're only responsible for your own tax situation is worth it, especially during a separation that might turn contentious.
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GalaxyGlider
β’Yikes, that's exactly what I'm worried about. He's suggesting we file jointly but says he can't pay me his portion until he gets his tax refund from a previous year that's still processing. Did you find that you lost a lot of tax benefits by filing separately? I'm worried about losing my education credits.
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Diego Mendoza
β’That's a huge red flag! If he's waiting on a prior year refund, there's a good chance the IRS is holding it for some reason - maybe prior tax debt, child support, or other government debt. That refund he's counting on might never arrive or might be much smaller than he expects. I did lose some tax benefits filing separately. The biggest hits were lower thresholds for certain deductions and credits and losing the ability to contribute to a Roth IRA (my income was too high for separate filing but would have qualified under joint). However, my education credits actually worked out better filing separately because they have income limits that are easier to stay under with just my income. In your case, with a significant income difference and you being a student, filing separately might actually preserve more of your education credits. The American Opportunity Credit and Lifetime Learning Credit both start phasing out at lower combined income levels.
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Anastasia Popova
Hey everyone, quick update from someone who's been through this - the TCJA (Tax Cuts and Jobs Act) changed some rules that affect this situation. If you file separately: 1. You both MUST either take the standard deduction OR both itemize - you can't mix and match anymore 2. If he claims any kids as dependents, you can't claim the Earned Income Credit even with your other kids 3. You'll have lower income thresholds for education credits, child tax credits, and retirement contribution deductions I'm not a CPA, but I found FreeTaxUSA let me toggle between filing statuses to compare before finalizing. It's way cheaper than TurboTax and showed me a side-by-side comparison of how each credit and deduction changed. In my case, filing jointly would have saved us about $3,200 combined, but I filed separately anyway because my ex had issues with unreported income that could have triggered an audit. Best $3,200 I ever "spent" to avoid that headache!
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Sean Flanagan
β’This is super helpful! One more thing to add - if you file separately and your spouse itemizes deductions, you CANNOT claim the standard deduction. My ex itemized without telling me, and I had to redo my whole return. Also, the income threshold for education credits drops dramatically for married filing separately - I think it's around $10,000 for some credits, which might be below your income.
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