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Don't overthink this! I was in your exact situation (4 years unfiled) and just bit the bullet and used a CPA. Cost me $350 per year but was TOTALLY worth it. Found out I was due nearly $6800 in refunds across all years. The peace of mind knowing a professional handled everything correctly was priceless. Plus they can e-file the most recent 2 years which means faster refunds. Just make sure you find someone BEFORE the April deadline or they'll all be too busy with current year returns.
Did you have any issues with penalties even though you were owed refunds? And how long did the whole process take from when you first contacted the CPA to getting everything resolved?
No penalties at all since I was due refunds! That's the good news about being owed money - the IRS doesn't penalize you for filing late when they owe YOU. They only charge penalties and interest when YOU owe THEM. The process took about 3 weeks total. First meeting was dropping off all my documents (W-2s, 1099s, etc.). About 10 days later they had all the returns prepared for me to review and sign. Filed electronically for the two most recent years, paper filed the older ones. Got my electronic refunds about 3 weeks after filing, and the paper filed ones took about 4 months. The whole thing was way less painful than the years I spent worrying about it!
Just an FYI - if you're using someone to help file back taxes, be careful about those "tax resolution" places with the big ads on radio/TV. I got quoted $3500 for basically the same service a local CPA did for $800. Those national chains are ripoffs for simple unfiled return situations like yours.
This is so true! Those places prey on fear with their scary commercials about IRS collections. A regular tax preparer or CPA is totally sufficient for unfiled returns when you have all your documents.
Have you looked at OnPay? That's what we use for our roofing company. The pricing is really reasonable (like $40 base fee + $6 per person) and it handles both W2s and 1099s really well. Tax filings are automated and they handle all the state registrations for you. The customer service is actually fantastic too - I've called them with questions and always get through to someone knowledgeable.
I haven't heard of OnPay before. How user-friendly is it for someone who understands accounting basics but isn't a payroll expert? And does it integrate with any accounting software?
It's super user-friendly! I'd say it's actually easier to navigate than QuickBooks Payroll, with a cleaner interface. The setup wizard walks you through everything including tax registrations. They have good help articles that explain things in plain English. It does integrate with QuickBooks Online, Xero, and a few other accounting systems. The integration with QuickBooks works well in my experience - it automatically records payroll expenses in the right categories. If you understand basic accounting concepts as a CPA candidate, you'll have no trouble with it.
For a moving company your size, I'd actually recommend ADP Run. We switched to it for our plumbing business (12 employees) and it's been great. It's a bit more expensive than some others, but they handle EVERYTHING and their compliance guarantee is worth it.
ADP is way overpriced for small businesses! I used them for my repair shop and switched to Gusto which does the same thing for half the price. Plus ADP's interface feels like it was designed in the 90s.
Don't forget you might need to file state tax returns too, even if your federal income is exempt under a treaty! I learned this the hard way. The federal treaties don't automatically apply to state taxes - each state has different rules. I'm in California and had to pay state tax on my scholarship even though it was exempt federally. Check your state's rules before assuming you're completely tax-free!
I think this depends on the state though? I'm in Texas and we don't have state income tax, so I only needed to file the federal 1040NR. Are there any states that honor the federal treaty exemptions?
You're absolutely right that it varies by state. Texas is lucky with no state income tax! States like California and New York generally don't fully honor federal treaty exemptions, so you often have to pay state tax even on treaty-exempt income. Some states like Pennsylvania and Virginia do honor many federal treaty provisions, but it's very state-specific. A good rule of thumb is that if your state has income tax, you should research whether they honor your specific treaty benefit or file a return anyway to be safe.
Quick question - does the 1042-S/1040NR filing affect your ability to use tax preparation software? I tried using FreeTaxUSA last year and it couldn't handle my situation at all.
Most of the mainstream tax software isn't great with international situations. I had decent luck with Sprintax which is specifically designed for nonresident tax returns, but it's not free.
OLT.com actually has a decent nonresident version that handled my 1042-S and treaty benefits correctly. It's cheaper than Sprintax but still costs about $40-50 for federal filing.
A bit of practical advice - while you're waiting for your 1042S, gather these things to make filing easier once you get it: - Your last year's 1099INT for comparison - A copy of the W-8BEN form you submitted to your bank - Your passport and visa documentation - A list of all days present in the US for the past 3 years (for substantial presence test) Also check if your home country has a tax treaty with the US - this can significantly affect your withholding rate on interest income. The standard is 30% but many countries have reduced rates of 0-15%.
This is helpful, thanks! Where exactly can I find if there's a tax treaty between my country (India) and the US? And how do I track my days present - is there an official way to do this?
You can find information about tax treaties on the IRS website under "Tax Treaties" - specifically look for "Table 1" which summarizes the withholding tax rates. For India, there is indeed a tax treaty and the reduced rate for interest income is 15% instead of the standard 30%. For tracking days present in the US, you can use the entry/exit stamps in your passport, your I-94 travel history (which you can download from the CBP website at i94.cbp.dhs.gov), or your travel records like flight confirmations. For tax purposes, you'll need to apply the Substantial Presence Test which counts full days you were physically present in the US across a three-year period using a weighted formula.
Can someone explain why they take so much longer to issue 1042S forms compared to 1099s? My American friends all have their tax documents already but I'm still waiting for my 1042S from two different banks. Is this normal?
The difference in timing exists because of regulatory requirements. Financial institutions must issue 1099 forms by January 31st, but they have until March 15th to issue 1042S forms. This extended deadline allows institutions more time to apply the complex withholding rules and tax treaty provisions that apply to non-resident accounts. Additionally, 1042S processing often requires manual review to ensure proper withholding rates based on tax treaties, which varies by country. Some institutions actually prepare these forms through separate departments or even third-party specialists rather than their regular tax document systems.
KingKongZilla
I worked at a bank that got acquired (not First Republic but similar situation) and had some stock in my Roth IRA too. One thing nobody's mentioned - can you roll over your Roth IRA to another provider and possibly get some better investment options to help rebuild what you lost? I moved mine to Fidelity and their advisors helped me rebalance with some funds that have performed pretty well since then. Won't fix the tax situation but might help recover some value over time.
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Skylar Neal
ā¢That's actually a really helpful suggestion! I hadn't thought about switching providers, but it makes sense to look for better investment options. Did you have any fees when you moved your Roth IRA to Fidelity? And how long did the whole process take?
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KingKongZilla
ā¢No fees to transfer the Roth IRA to Fidelity - most major brokerages don't charge for incoming transfers. The whole process took about 2 weeks from starting the paperwork to having everything settled in the new account. Fidelity handled most of the transfer work once I filled out their forms. The good part was getting access to their research tools and fund options. I met with one of their advisors (free consultation) who suggested a portfolio mix based on my retirement timeline that's been working well.
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Rebecca Johnston
Don't forget that while you can't deduct the ROTH IRA losses, you still have all the contributions you've made available to withdraw at any time without taxes or penalties. That's one of the biggest advantages of a Roth vs traditional IRA. If you really need access to some funds, you can withdraw your contributions (but not earnings) without any tax consequences. Just make sure to check exactly how much you've contributed over the years so you don't accidentally withdraw any earnings.
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Nathan Dell
ā¢This is a really important point! I had a similar situation happen and it's easy to focus on the loss and forget that the money you put in is still accessible if needed.
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