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Quick tip that might help - if you've been living abroad continuously, you might qualify for the foreign residency exception to the early distribution penalty. Check out exception code 02 on Form 5329. You'll need to attach a statement explaining that you're a bona fide resident of a foreign country. This won't help with the withholding issue, but it might mean you can get that 10% refunded if you qualify for the exception!
Wait really?? I've been living overseas since before the distribution and still am. Does this mean I could potentially get that $2000 back? How would I document that?
Yes! If you meet the bona fide residence test (generally living in a foreign country for an uninterrupted period that includes an entire tax year), you should qualify for exception code 02. You'd fill out Form 5329, and on line 2, you'd enter exception code "02" and then the amount of the early distribution that qualifies for the exception. Then attach a statement to your return explaining your foreign residency status. Since the 10% was already withheld, when you properly code this exception, you should get that money refunded. Just make sure you can document your foreign residency if asked (rental agreements, utility bills, foreign tax documents, etc.).
Has anyone successfully filed Form 5329 using TurboTax? I'm in a similar situation but the software seems to be calculating everything wrong.
I gave up on TurboTax for complex situations like this. H&R Block's premium version handled my 5329 correctly last year. For some reason TurboTax kept double-counting the penalty even after I entered the withholding.
If you're seeing a 570 code, check if you also have a 971 followed by a 290 code on a later date. In my experience, this sequence often means they're making an adjustment (could be up or down). The key is looking at whether there's a minus or plus sign next to any amount listed on the same line as these codes. Also, the cycle date on your transcript is important - it tells you when your account updates. If your cycle code ends in 05, your account updates on Thursdays/Fridays.
Thank you so much for this info! I do see a 290 code dated one week after the 570/971 codes. There's a small amount next to it (about $120 less than my expected refund). I'm guessing that means they're reducing it by that amount? My cycle code does end in 05 so I'll check again tomorrow to see if there are any updates.
Yes, that's exactly what it means. The $120 reduction is likely a correction they made to your return. This is actually good news because it means they've completed their review and are moving forward with processing your refund with just that small adjustment. Since your cycle code ends in 05, definitely check your transcript again tomorrow. You'll likely see a TC 846 code with your refund amount and direct deposit date. Most people see their money hit their account within 5-7 days after the TC 846 appears.
Has anyone used the "Where's My Refund" tool compared to checking transcripts? Mine has been saying "still processing" for weeks but my transcript shows all these codes. I'm confused which one is more accurate.
Transcripts are ALWAYS more accurate and detailed than the "Where's My Refund" tool. WMR only shows three basic statuses (received, approved, sent), while transcripts show you exactly what's happening behind the scenes. Many times my WMR would show "still processing" while my transcript showed they were already preparing to issue a refund.
The way I've always understood tax brackets (and how I built my spreadsheet) is using the "taxable income" concept: If your taxable income is LESS THAN OR EQUAL TO the upper limit of a bracket, then that's your bracket. So $50,175 is in the 12% bracket, while $50,176 is in the 22% bracket. For calculation purposes, I use this formula: - 10% of the first $12,350 - 12% of the amount over $12,350 up to $50,175 - 22% of the amount over $50,175 up to $107,050 And so on... This way there's no confusion about missing dollars. The key is to calculate the tax on the amount WITHIN each bracket, not the bracket boundaries themselves.
This is how I do it too, but I still run into small discrepancies when I check my work against online calculators. Is there a specific formula you use in Excel/Google Sheets? I feel like I'm still missing something.
I use nested IF statements in Excel to determine which portion of income falls into each bracket. For example: For the 12% bracket: =IF(Income>12350,IF(Income>=50175,50175-12350,Income-12350),0)*0.12 This says "if income is greater than $12,350, then either take the full bracket amount ($50,175-$12,350) if income exceeds the top of this bracket, or just take (Income-$12,350) if income falls within this bracket. Multiply the result by 12%." Do this for each bracket, then sum them all up. The key insight is treating the upper boundary as inclusive (using >= for comparing to the upper limit), so $50,175 gets taxed at 12%, not 22%. This matches official IRS calculations exactly.
I think we're all overthinking this lol. The tax calculation difference you're seeing is probably just a rounding error in your spreadsheet. The IRS actually rounds to the nearest dollar anyway on the final tax owed, so being off by a few cents per bracket is meaningless in real life.
Actually, precision matters here. While the final tax amount is rounded, the calculations themselves need to be exact. I learned this the hard way when my "close enough" spreadsheet ended up being off by $237 compared to my actual return because of accumulated small errors in multiple bracket calculations.
5 Just a heads up - make sure you keep good records of everything related to this W-2C and your amendment. I had a similar situation last year, and the IRS initially rejected my amended return because they couldn't match up the information with what they had on file. It took multiple calls and sending in copies of the W-2C to get it sorted out.
1 What exactly should I be keeping? Just the W-2C and copies of the amended return? Or should I also be keeping some kind of documentation about when I received it from my employer?
5 You should definitely keep the original W-2C (both your copy and all copies they sent you), your original tax return for that year, and copies of your completed amended return with all attachments. I'd also recommend keeping any emails or documentation showing when you received the W-2C from your employer, especially since it came so late. I'd also suggest writing a brief explanation letter to attach to your amended return explaining the delayed W-2C situation. This helps the IRS processor understand why you're amending a return from two years ago. In my case, including this letter helped when I had to follow up later.
17 Has anyone else noticed employers seem to be sending more W-2Cs lately? This is the third post I've seen about this in the last month. My theory is that payroll companies are doing more audits since all the employee turnover during covid.
22 I work in payroll, and you're partly right. There's been a big push for compliance audits after all the remote work and state tax complications from the pandemic. Many companies are still catching up and finding issues from 2-3 years ago. Plus the IRS has been sending more notices about mismatches between what employers reported and what employees filed.
Chloe Martin
Just to add to what others have said - I'm a tax preparer (not a CPA, but I work for a tax service). The 1095-C is what we call an "informational form" - it's not submitted with your return. There are three types of 1095 forms: 1095-A: This is for Marketplace insurance and YES you DO need this for your tax return if you purchased insurance through the exchange 1095-B: From insurance providers 1095-C: From employers with 50+ employees that offer health insurance Only the 1095-A is absolutely needed for filing. The B and C forms are just for your records, as others have mentioned.
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Diego FernΓ‘ndez
β’This is really helpful! So what about if my employer is really small (like 5 people)? I don't think I got any 1095 form at all. Is that normal or should I be asking for something?
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Chloe Martin
β’If your employer has fewer than 50 full-time employees, they're not required to provide a 1095-C form. So for a small business with only 5 employees, not receiving a 1095 form is completely normal. The main thing that matters is whether you had qualifying health coverage. If your small employer provided health insurance and you were enrolled, you were covered. If you're ever questioned about your coverage, you can provide other documentation like insurance cards or pay stubs showing health insurance deductions.
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Anastasia Kuznetsov
Anyone know if the IRS actually cross-references the 1095-C info with your tax return? Like if the 1095-C says I had coverage but I accidentally clicked "no coverage" on my tax form, will that trigger something?
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Sean Fitzgerald
β’They potentially could since employers submit this info to the IRS, but currently the IRS isn't enforcing the individual mandate penalties at the federal level. Some states still have their own penalties though (CA, MA, NJ, RI, and DC I think?). If you're in one of those states, you might want to correct that.
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