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A quick tip from someone who used to work with tax issues - when you receive an abatement approval, you need to specifically request a refund if you've already paid the penalty amount. The IRS doesn't automatically issue refunds for abatements; they just credit your account. You should call the IRS (painful, I know) and ask for: 1. An account transcript for the tax year in question 2. Verification of the abatement approval 3. Request that they issue a refund for the credit balance As for the 1099-INT, yes, you legally need to report it. However, since you haven't actually received the money, you can offset it by claiming a loss. Make sure to document everything thoroughly in case of an audit.

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Dyllan Nantx

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Do you know which specific form I should use to claim that loss? And where exactly on the tax return would I put this? I'm using TurboTax and couldn't find an obvious place to enter this type of situation.

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For TurboTax, you should report the 1099-INT income as required, then look for the "Miscellaneous Deductions" section (sometimes under "Other Income"). Enter a negative amount equal to your 1099-INT as "Claim of Right" income repayment. If that specific option isn't available, you can use Form 8275 (Disclosure Statement) to explain the situation. TurboTax has a section for additional forms that you can access through the search function. The key is to document that you're not trying to avoid reporting income, but rather addressing a situation where you were issued a 1099 for money you never received.

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Has anyone successfully gotten the IRS to revoke a 1099-INT in a situation like this? It seems ridiculous that they make you report income you never received and then jump through hoops to claim it back on your tax return.

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Anna Xian

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I actually did get mine revoked last year! I sent a certified letter to the IRS office that issued the 1099-INT explaining that I never received the funds. Included copies of all my bank statements proving no deposit was made. They sent a corrected 1099-INT showing $0 about six weeks later. Much easier than trying to claim it as a loss.

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One important thing to know is that you should have received a Notice of Intent to Offset from the Treasury Department at least 60 days before they take your refund. Did you get that notice? It's separate from the state payment plan notices. If you didn't receive that official notice, you might have grounds to challenge the offset. Also, check with your state tax agency directly. Sometimes they can release the offset if you're on a payment plan and have been making consistent payments. Every state has different policies on this.

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I thought they had to tell you the exact amount they're offsetting? My notice just said "up to the full refund amount" which wasn't helpful at all.

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The Notice of Intent to Offset typically doesn't list an exact amount because the Treasury Department doesn't know how much your refund will be when they send it out. That's why they use language like "up to the full refund amount" or "up to the amount of your debt." What should be included on the notice is the total debt amount they believe you owe. If that amount is incorrect, that's definitely something you can dispute. You generally have 60 days from receiving the notice to request a review of the debt, though this doesn't automatically stop the offset from happening.

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Did you check your account on the state tax website? Sometimes they'll show pending offsets there before they appear on your federal transcript. Also, call your state tax department directly - they can often tell you if they've submitted your debt for offset even if it hasn't processed yet.

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Sasha Ivanov

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Thanks for the suggestion! I just checked my state's tax portal and there is actually a notice there about the offset request that was sent to the federal government. It shows the full amount of my remaining state tax debt ($2,900) but says they're requesting the entire amount from my federal refund, which is about $4,500. So it looks like the offset is real even though it's not showing on my federal transcript yet. I'm going to call the state tax department tomorrow to see if they'll withdraw the offset request since I've been making regular payments. Fingers crossed!

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Be careful about assuming your state will withdraw the offset. I was making payments to New York for two years and they still took my federal refund. They basically told me "thanks for the payments AND the offset" and applied both to my balance.

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Just wanted to add that I've been running a lawn care business for 5 years, and I always record all income together regardless of whether it's a tip or standard service fee. On your Schedule C, it all goes on the same line anyway. The bigger issue is making sure you're tracking all your legitimate business expenses to offset that income! Don't forget things like equipment depreciation, vehicle expenses, insurance, and even a portion of your cell phone bill if you use it for business. The IRS wants all your income reported, but they also allow all legitimate business expenses to be deducted.

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Omar Fawaz

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Thanks for this advice! Do you use any specific software or app to track your business expenses throughout the year? And how detailed do your records need to be for things like gas or small tool purchases?

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I use a combination of QuickBooks Self-Employed and a separate business credit card that I use exclusively for business purchases. This makes it much easier to track everything come tax time. For expenses like gas and small tools, I keep all receipts and take photos of them with my phone immediately (receipts fade over time). The IRS wants to see that there's documentation for your expenses, so having receipts or electronic records is important. For vehicle expenses, you can either track all actual costs (gas, maintenance, insurance, etc.) or use the standard mileage rate - I find the standard mileage rate easier, but you need to keep a mileage log with dates, destinations, and business purpose.

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Has anyone here dealt with Venmo's reporting thresholds? I heard they changed the rules again for 2025. I'm worried because I do about $30k a year through my Venmo business account for my landscaping service and don't want any surprises.

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Aisha Khan

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For 2025, payment apps like Venmo are required to issue a 1099-K if you receive more than $5,000 in business transactions for the year. This is down from the $20,000 threshold they had temporarily extended. So at $30k, you'll definitely get a 1099-K that will be reported to the IRS.

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Carmen Ortiz

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Former non-profit accountant here. This arrangement definitely raises red flags but isn't automatically illegal. The key issues are: 1) Did the board approve this arrangement with documented evidence? 2) Did the interested parties (CEO/spouse) recuse themselves from voting? 3) Is the LLC providing legitimate services at fair market value? 4) Is the arrangement properly disclosed on Schedule L of Form 990? 5) Are there other board members who are truly independent? The IRS is particularly interested in "excess benefit transactions" where insiders receive more value than they provide to the organization. If the fundraising services are generating significantly more than $2.3M in donations, and the cost is competitive with other fundraising contractors, this might be defendable.

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Thanks for this breakdown! I've been trying to find their Schedule L but having trouble locating it through charity navigator and the other public sites. Would this arrangement show up anywhere else on their 990 besides Schedule L?

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Carmen Ortiz

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Yes, there are a few other places to look. Check Part VII of Form 990, which lists compensation for officers, directors and key employees - there should be columns for reporting compensation from "related organizations." Also look at Schedule O, which often contains supplemental information and explanations. Many non-profits also post their full 990 packages (including all schedules) on their websites, or you can request it directly from them - they're legally required to provide copies of their three most recent 990s upon request. Alternatively, you can request copies from the IRS using Form 4506-A, though that takes longer. GuideStar (now part of Candid) usually has more complete 990 packages than Charity Navigator if you create a free account.

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To answer your specific questions: 1) Is it legal? Maybe, with proper disclosure and board approval 2) Can fundraising fees be this high? Yes, but it depends on services provided 3) Conflict of interest? Absolutely yes, but conflicts can be managed with proper procedures I'd be most concerned about whether their board is truly independent and whether they sought competitive bids for fundraising services. Many states' attorneys general are increasing scrutiny of non-profit governance, especially around related-party transactions. If you have serious concerns, you might consider reporting to your state's charity regulator or the IRS.

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How would you even report something like this? I'm on a non-profit board and we've been concerned about some similar arrangements our ED has, but nobody wants to be a whistle-blower.

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Mei Liu

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If you filed with TurboTax or another tax software last year, you can usually log in to your account and view last year's return even if you don't have a PDF saved. That would show the original AGI before the unemployment adjustment.

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This is what I did! I logged into my H&R Block account from last year and found my original filing. The AGI was completely different from what I thought it was after the adjustment.

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Mei Liu

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Good point about checking all possible tax software accounts! Sometimes people forget which service they used the previous year, so it's worth checking any tax preparation accounts you might have.

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Amara Chukwu

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The IRS actually has a special procedure for this exact situation. If you can't get your original AGI, enter $0 as your prior year AGI. This is their official workaround for people who can't access their previous return information.

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Aisha Rahman

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That $0 AGI workaround only works in specific situations - primarily for first-time filers or in years when the IRS specifically allows it. For most people who filed last year, using $0 will cause another rejection. The IRS has been inconsistent with this policy, so it's better to find your actual AGI if possible.

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