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QuantumQuest

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For what it's worth, I'm a contractor making about $230k and the S-corp has been totally worth it for me. Some practical advice: 1) Make sure to set aside money for quarterly estimated tax payments since you won't have withholding on the distribution portion 2) Get a good payroll service that handles the filings ($40-60/month usually) 3) Keep separate business accounts and don't mix personal/business expenses 4) Factor in about $1500-2000 extra for annual tax preparation (versus what you paid as a sole prop) Even with those costs, I'm saving around $12k annually in SE taxes. Just be prepared for more paperwork and higher accounting fees.

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Thanks for the practical breakdown! Do you have any payroll services you'd recommend specifically? And how did you decide what salary to set for yourself?

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QuantumQuest

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I use Gusto for payroll and have been happy with it. Very user-friendly and they handle all the filings automatically. OnPay and Square Payroll are also good options that several of my contractor friends use. All run about $45-60/month depending on features. For salary, I researched construction project managers in my area on sites like Glassdoor and Indeed. The range was $90k-140k, so I settled on $120k as my reasonable salary. I also documented this research and keep it with my tax records in case of questions. My accountant suggested keeping the salary above 40% of business profit as a general rule to avoid red flags, but that varies by industry.

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Connor Murphy

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Don't forget about state filing requirements too! If you're in California like me, the minimum franchise tax is $800 annually just for the privilege of being an S-corp. That ate into my savings significantly. Make sure to research your state's requirements before deciding.

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Yara Haddad

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Yikes! I didn't know about state franchise taxes. Does anyone know what the requirements are in Texas?

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Texas doesn't have state income tax but does have a franchise tax (also called margin tax). However, there's a threshold - businesses with less than $1.23 million in annual revenue are exempt. So for most small S-corps in Texas, you wouldn't owe this tax.

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Ravi Gupta

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Just to add another perspective - check if your employer is using ADP, Workday, or another payroll system that might have their own specific instructions. My company uses Workday and even though the W-4 changed years ago, their system still asks for allowances in the initial questionnaire but then converts it to the new system behind the scenes. I ended up asking our HR department directly and they sent me a conversion chart that showed how many allowances would translate to different withholding amounts. Might be worth asking your HR or payroll team if they have something similar!

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This is really good advice. Different payroll systems handle the transition differently. I work in HR (not a tax expert though) and we've had tons of questions about this exact issue. Some systems use a "behind the scenes" conversion while others actually require you to fill out both the old and new formats.

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Ravi Gupta

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Exactly! It's even more complicated because some of these systems were updated in phases. For my company, employees hired before 2023 still see the allowances language while newer employees get a different interface entirely. The most important thing is to make sure your actual withholding amounts align with your tax situation, regardless of how the form presents it. When in doubt, the payroll or HR department can usually provide a withholding calculator or estimate specific to their system.

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Omar Hassan

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Has anyone else noticed that the withholding never seems right no matter what you put on these forms? I swear I've tried everything - claiming 0, 1, 2 on the old system, filling out the new W-4 exactly as instructed - and I always either owe a bunch or get too big a refund at tax time. It's so frustrating!

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Try using the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator (it's free on the IRS website). It's way more accurate than just guessing with allowances. You can adjust throughout the year too if your situation changes.

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Quick reminder for everyone dealing with 402G excess contribution issues: the 2024 401k contribution limit is $23,000 (or $30,500 if you're 50+). If you're changing jobs this year, make sure you track your contributions across employers to avoid going over! My financial advisor told me an easy way to avoid this problem is to use a spreadsheet to track your contributions from each employer. Also, let your new employer's HR know if you've already contributed at a previous job that year.

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Sasha Ivanov

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Do those limits apply to both Traditional and Roth 401k combined? Or can I do $23,000 in Traditional and another $23,000 in Roth? Also, does the employer match count toward the limit?

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The $23,000 limit applies to your combined Traditional and Roth 401k contributions - it's a total limit for all your elective deferrals. So you can split it however you want between Traditional and Roth, but the total can't exceed $23,000 (or $30,500 if you're 50+). Good news though - employer matching contributions don't count toward this limit! They fall under a separate, much higher limit (the "415(c) limit") which is $69,000 for 2024. This higher limit includes all contributions to the plan (your elective deferrals plus employer contributions).

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Liam Murphy

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Has anyone here actually looked at the codes in Box 7 of your 1099-Rs? Mine has code "E" which I can't figure out what it means. The IRS website is so confusing on this. Anyone know if that's the right code for excess contributions?

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Amara Okafor

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Code "E" actually means distribution under a QDRO (qualified domestic relations order), which is usually for divorce situations. For excess contributions, you should normally see code "P" for principal or code "8" for earnings on excess contributions. You might want to contact your plan administrator because they may have coded your 1099-R incorrectly.

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Yuki Ito

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One thing nobody's mentioned yet - have you considered a loan to the business instead of buying equity? Might be a cleaner tax situation. You'd get interest income (taxable, but no self-employment tax) and maintain more separation. Less upside if the business booms, but also less complication and risk.

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StarStrider

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That's an interesting alternative I hadn't considered. Would the interest I earn be considered passive income? And would the business still be able to deduct the interest payments? Seems like it could be win-win if structured properly.

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Yuki Ito

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Yes, the interest you earn would typically be considered portfolio income (not passive income in the tax sense, but not subject to self-employment tax either). It's reported on Schedule B and taxed at your ordinary income rate. The business could generally deduct the interest payments as a business expense, subject to certain limitations if the business is very large (which doesn't sound like the case here). This creates a tax-efficient arrangement where the business reduces its taxable income and you receive income without the complications of partnership taxation. You could even structure it with an equity conversion option if the business performs well and you later decide you want ownership.

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Carmen Lopez

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I bought 50% of a friend's marketing agency in 2022 and my biggest advice is GET EVERYTHING IN WRITING!! We didn't properly document profit distributions vs guaranteed payments and it was a tax NIGHTMARE. Make sure your operating agreement clearly specifies: 1) How profits are distributed 2) If you get guaranteed payments regardless of profit 3) Who can make tax elections 4) How tax distributions are handled (to cover your tax liability) Also check if your state has specific filing requirements for multi-member LLCs. Some states require more paperwork than others!

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Andre Dupont

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What tax software did you use to handle your K-1? I'm looking at a similar situation and wondering if TurboTax can handle it or if I need something more specialized.

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Carmen Lopez

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I started with TurboTax but switched to a CPA halfway through. TurboTax can technically handle K-1s, but it doesn't provide much guidance for complex situations. If your K-1 is straightforward it might be fine, but mine had unusual allocations, guaranteed payments, and some weird depreciation issues from business property. The best advice I can give is to either use a more specialized tax software like UltraTax if you're comfortable with tax concepts, or just pay for a CPA who specializes in partnership taxation. It's worth the money to avoid the headache and potential errors. My CPA actually found several deductions TurboTax missed that more than paid for her fee.

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Bruno Simmons

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Don't stress too much. I was in a similar situation with about $12k of unreported income over two years. I filed amended returns and paid what I owed plus interest. No audit, no criminal charges, no drama. The IRS deals with this kind of thing all the time. They're mostly interested in getting paid, not punishing honest mistakes.

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Natalia Stone

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That's reassuring to hear. Did you get hit with any penalties or just the back taxes and interest? And did you use a tax professional or just do it yourself?

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Bruno Simmons

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I ended up paying a penalty of about 20% on top of the taxes owed, plus interest. It wasn't fun writing that check, but it was bearable and totally worth the peace of mind. I used a CPA for the amended returns. It cost me about $350, but they found some deductions I'd missed that probably saved me twice that amount. Plus they handled all the paperwork correctly which I think helped avoid any audit flags. If you've got somewhat complicated taxes or multiple years to amend, a professional is definitely worth the money.

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anyone else think it's wild that the IRS knows we owe them money but makes us figure out how much? like if they already know i didn't report ebay income why dont they just send a bill instead of making me stress about amending returns??? the whole system is broken

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Zane Gray

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The IRS doesn't automatically know about your eBay income though. They only know what gets reported to them through forms like W-2s and 1099s. If eBay/PayPal didn't issue 1099s (which they wouldn't for smaller sellers back then), the IRS has no way of knowing about that income until they audit you or match bank deposits.

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