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Don't forget that you also need to submit a Form 1096 along with your late 1099! 1096 is basically the transmittal form that goes with paper 1099s when you send them to the IRS. If you're e-filing you won't need it, but for paper filing it's required.
Wait seriously? I had no idea about Form 1096! Is that something I can just download from the IRS website? And does it need to be mailed or can I submit it electronically somehow?
Yes, Form 1096 is required when submitting paper 1099s to the IRS. It's essentially a cover sheet that summarizes all the 1099s you're submitting. You can download it from the IRS website, but it needs to be the official red-ink scannable version - a regular printout won't be accepted. For your situation, you might want to consider e-filing instead. If you e-file your 1099, you won't need the 1096 at all. There are several IRS-approved e-filing services that make the process pretty straightforward, and it's generally faster and eliminates the risk of mail delays. Plus, you get confirmation when the IRS receives your submission.
Don't just file the late 1099 with the IRS - remember you also need to provide a copy to the contractor! I got hit with an extra penalty because I sent the late forms to the IRS but forgot to give copies to my contractors too.
One way to handle this that nobody has mentioned is using a Qualified Disclaimer. If your husband never intended to have an ownership interest and won't be receiving proceeds, he may be able to execute a disclaimer of interest BEFORE the sale closes. This is basically a legal statement refusing to accept the interest in the property. It needs to be done properly through an attorney, filed with the county recorder, and meet specific IRS requirements, but it could potentially remove your husband from the equation entirely before the sale happens. I did this when my grandparents put me on a deed without telling me, and it saved me from a huge tax headache when they later sold the property.
This is really interesting! I've never heard of a Qualified Disclaimer before. Is this something that can be done even years after being added to a deed? My husband has been on his father's deed since 2002, so about 20 years now. Would it still be possible to do this so close to the sale?
Unfortunately, a Qualified Disclaimer typically needs to be executed within 9 months of when the interest was created or when you turned 21 (whichever is later). Since your husband has been on the deed for around 20 years, this option probably won't work in your situation. There are still other approaches though. One possibility is having your father-in-law give your husband's share back to him as a gift before the sale (though this has gift tax implications). Another is to ensure proper documentation that your husband is acting as a "nominee" owner only. This would require specific language in the closing documents and proper reporting on tax returns.
Has anyone used TurboTax to handle capital gains reporting for a situation like this? I've got a somewhat similar scenario coming up and wondering if the software can handle the complexity or if I need to hire a professional.
I used TurboTax Premier last year for a capital gains situation with multiple owners (sold my parents' house where I was on the deed). It handled the basic reporting fine, but I found it didn't ask enough detailed questions about ownership intent or primary residence status for each owner. I ended up having to manually override some entries and add explanatory statements. Unless your situation is very straightforward, I'd recommend at least consulting with a tax professional who specializes in real estate transactions before trying to DIY it.
Thanks for the feedback. That's pretty much what I was worried about. I think I'll use a tax pro this year since the stakes are high, then maybe try software again next year when I don't have such complicated issues.
Another possibility - check if anyone in your household has an IP PIN. My wife got one after some identity theft issues, and for some reason our tax software started asking for MY IP PIN too, even though I didn't have one. We had to file separate returns that year to get around it. Something to consider if this applies to your situation!
Actually that's interesting because my partner did have some credit card fraud last year. They had to deal with a bunch of identity theft issues. Do you think that could be causing my tax return to ask for an IP PIN even though we file separately? We've never filed jointly.
Even if you file separately, sometimes these systems can create connections between household members, especially if you've ever shared an address on tax returns. The IRS fraud detection systems are pretty sophisticated and look for patterns across related taxpayers. In your case, it's definitely possible that your partner's identity theft situation triggered additional security for anyone connected to them, including people at the same address. I'd recommend asking your partner if they received an IP PIN and checking with them about any communications they've had with the IRS about identity protection.
Has anyone tried just creating an account on the IRS website to see if you already have an IP PIN assigned? That's what I did when TurboTax suddenly asked for mine. Turns out the IRS had actually assigned me one and sent a letter that got lost in the mail. You can recover it online if you create an account at irs.gov.
This is great advice but setting up an IRS account online is its own circle of hell. They've made the verification process so strict that many legitimate people can't get through it. They asked me for info from a mortgage I had 8 years ago!
Just a heads up if you're amending to add 1099 income - make sure you're also considering if you need to add Schedule SE for self-employment tax. That's a mistake I made when amending last year. I added the 1099 income but forgot that I also needed to pay the self-employment tax portion (the extra 15.3% for Social Security and Medicare that employers usually pay half of). Got a nasty surprise bill from the IRS months later for the missing SE tax plus penalties and interest. Also check if you need to amend your state return too! Most states require an amendment if your federal return changes.
Oh wow, I didn't even think about the self-employment tax! This is super helpful - I definitely would have made the same mistake. Do you know if FreeTaxUSA automatically calculates that when you enter 1099 income, or is it something I need to specifically look for?
Yes, FreeTaxUSA should automatically calculate and add the self-employment tax when you enter 1099-NEC or 1099-MISC income that's subject to SE tax. But it's always good to double-check that Schedule SE is included in your forms list before finalizing. The software should walk you through questions about your business expenses too, which can help reduce both your income tax and self-employment tax. Don't forget things like mileage, home office (if applicable), supplies, software subscriptions, etc. Even small deductions add up and can offset some of that SE tax hit.
I amended with TaxAct after originally filing with H&R Block last year. No issues at all. Just make sure when you start the amendment that you enter all the information EXACTLY as it appeared on your original return first, then add the new stuff. One thing to watch for - some of the cheaper services have limits on how complex your return can be. If your 1099 income means you need certain business schedules, double check that FreeTaxUSA's amendment option includes those forms at the price point you're looking at.
Good point! FreeTaxUSA's free tier does include Schedule C for business income but might charge for state amendments. Their premium services are still wayyyyy cheaper than H&R Block though.
Sergio Neal
Former gambling affiliate here. What you're describing is actually pretty common with offshore gambling sites. In my experience, you want to treat this as two separate transactions: 1) Gambling winnings (which you've already reported) 2) Acquisition of ETH at the market value when you received it The $101 loss is probably from the ETH dropping in value between when you received it and when you sold it (or the current value if you still hold it). One thing to watch out for - make sure the gambling site didn't take a fee when converting to ETH. Some sites take 2-5% when processing crypto withdrawals, which would affect your cost basis.
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Romeo Barrett
ā¢Thanks for this explanation! Yes, the site did take a small fee during the conversion to ETH. Should I be including that fee in my calculations somehow? Sorry if that's a dumb question, I'm still trying to wrap my head around all this.
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Sergio Neal
ā¢That fee is important! It should be factored into your cost basis. For example, if you withdrew $1000 worth of winnings but only received $950 in ETH after the fee, your cost basis should be $950, not $1000. When you eventually sell that ETH, you'll calculate your gain/loss based on the $950 figure. The $50 fee isn't deductible separately - it's just part of the transaction cost of acquiring the ETH. This is likely contributing to why your software is showing a capital loss.
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Savanna Franklin
Not financial advice but i had a similar problem when i was using bovada and withdrawing to btc. i just reported my gambling winnings like normal and then treated the crypto as if i bought it that day at whatever the price was when i received it. seems to match what smarter ppl than me are saying here lol
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Juan Moreno
ā¢How did you figure out the exact price when you received it though? The price can change like every minute and im never sure what exact value to use.
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