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Miguel Diaz

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Make sure you respond by the deadline on the notice! The IRS automatically issues CP2000 notices when there's a mismatch between reported income and what financial institutions report. Banks report large deposits through currency transaction reports, but they don't indicate whether it's taxable income or not.

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Zainab Ahmed

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Is there a specific form the parents need to fill out to confirm this was a gift under the annual exclusion? I always thought there was paperwork for the giver.

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Miguel Diaz

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The parents would only need to file Form 709 (Gift Tax Return) if their gift exceeded the annual exclusion amount per recipient. For 2022, that threshold was $16,000 per person. So if both parents contributed to the gift, each could give up to $16,000 (total $32,000) without any filing requirement. For responding to the IRS notice, there's no specific form the parents need to complete. A simple signed and dated statement explaining the gift (including amount, date, occasion, and relationship) should suffice. Including evidence like copies of checks, transfer receipts, or bank statements showing the source of funds would strengthen the case.

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Connor Byrne

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Have you checked if this is actually a legit IRS notice? There are tons of scams going around. A real IRS CP2000 notice always comes with your tax ID number and specific information about the discrepancy. The IRS also never asks for payment directly in their first notice about an issue.

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Yara Abboud

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This is an excellent point. I got a fake IRS letter once that looked really convincing! You can call the IRS directly (using the number from their official website, not the letter) to confirm if they actually sent you something.

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CyberSamurai

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3 Did you check if you're actually eligible to claim 1? A lot of people don't realize that your filing status, number of jobs, and other factors all affect what you should claim. My brother kept claiming 1 for years before realizing he should've been claiming 0 since he had a side gig that didn't withhold taxes.

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CyberSamurai

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1 I thought I was eligible because I'm single with one job and no dependents. What other factors would make me need to claim 0 instead of 1? I don't have any side gigs, but I do have some investments that pay small dividends (maybe $2k per year).

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CyberSamurai

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3 Those investment dividends could definitely be part of your problem! Even $2k in dividend income doesn't have any tax withheld, so you need to account for that separately. With the new W-4 form, you'd add this as "other income" in Step 4(a). Also, if you receive any bonuses or commission that are taxed at a flat 22% supplemental rate, this might be less than your actual tax bracket if your income is high enough, creating a shortfall at tax time.

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CyberSamurai

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10 Have you tried using tax software that lets you do tax planning? I use TurboTax and they have a feature where you can estimate next year's taxes and it tells you if you're withholding enough. Saved me from owing $3k this year because I caught the underwithholding in October and adjusted my W-4 for the last few months.

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CyberSamurai

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16 I second this! I use H&R Block and their tax planning tool caught that I was going to owe about $4,500. I immediately updated my W-4 to take out an extra $375 per month for the rest of the year. Still owed a little but WAY less than I would have otherwise.

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One thing nobody has mentioned yet - you might want to check if your IRA custodian reported this correctly on the 1099-R. The distribution code in Box 7 matters a lot for how your return is processed. For a return of contribution in the same year, they should use code "8" or sometimes "P" depending on the specific situation. If they used a different code (like "1" for early distribution), you might want to contact them and see if they can issue a corrected 1099-R. That would make everything much smoother when you file.

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Thanks for mentioning the distribution code! I just checked my statement and it looks like they used code "1" which I guess means early distribution. Should I call them and ask them to change it to code "8"? Or can I just explain the situation on my tax return regardless of what code they used?

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I would definitely call your IRA custodian and explain the situation. Ask them if they can issue a corrected 1099-R with code "8" since this was intended as a return of contribution in the same year. Having the correct code will make the process much smoother and reduce the chance of IRS questions. If they won't or can't issue a corrected form (some are more helpful than others), you can still proceed by filing your return with an explanation attached. Just be aware this might increase the chance of questions or even correspondence from the IRS since the form code won't match your explanation.

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Ava Thompson

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Has anyone ever had success getting the withholding returned directly from the IRA custodian instead of waiting for tax filing? I had a similar situation last year with Fidelity and after enough complaining they actually reversed the transaction completely and reprocessed it correctly as a return of contribution with no withholding.

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CyberSiren

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I actually did this with Vanguard a couple years ago. The key was that I caught it and called them within like 2 weeks of the distribution. They were able to basically cancel it and redo it properly before they had sent the withholding to the IRS. But I think once they've sent that money to the government, you're probably stuck waiting for your tax refund.

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Jamal Harris

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Anyone know if these nondividend distributions get reported anywhere on your tax forms? I literally never heard of them before reading this thread and now I'm wondering if I've been reporting mine wrong for years lol. I just always put whatever amount is in the 1099-DIV as dividends...

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Luca Russo

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Nondividend distributions are reported in Box 3 of Form 1099-DIV. They're not reported as income on your tax return, but instead they reduce your cost basis in the investment. You only keep track of these reductions until you sell the investment, at which point your capital gain/loss calculation will use the reduced basis. If the nondividend distributions ever exceed your cost basis (rare but possible with long-held investments), then the excess amount becomes reportable as a capital gain in the year received.

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Sophie Duck

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Just to clarify something important - nondividend distributions are typically return of capital, meaning you're getting some of your investment back, not earning new income. It reduces your basis in the stock. You only pay tax when either: 1) you sell the stock, or 2) your basis gets reduced to zero and further distributions become capital gains. For $10, this is barely worth tracking, but if you get more significant nondividend distributions in the future, definitely keep records! The correct reporting would be on Schedule D and Form 8949 when you eventually sell.

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Kylo Ren

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This is super helpful, thank you! I definitely didn't understand the difference between regular dividends and nondividend distributions. So basically I paid tax now on something I didn't need to pay tax on until later? I guess I'll just make a note of this for my records. The shares are in my long-term investment account so I probably won't be selling for many years anyway.

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Ella Russell

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This reminds me of a conversation I had with my brother-in-law who's a financial advisor. He said one of the hardest things to explain to clients is that being completely debt-free (including your house) is actually a GOOD thing, even if you lose some tax deductions. He compared it to giving someone $100 if they give you back $30. You're still out $70! But people get so focused on the $30 "benefit" that they forget about the $70 cost. Also, don't forget that with the higher standard deduction now ($27,700 for married filing jointly in 2024), many people don't even itemize deductions anymore, making the mortgage interest completely irrelevant tax-wise.

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This is such a great analogy! I'm going to use this next time someone tries to tell me I should keep debt around for tax purposes. It's amazing how many otherwise smart people fall for this.

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Gavin King

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Ok so I feel dumb asking this but... if the mortgage interest deduction isn't really beneficial, why does everyone talk about it like it's this huge perk of homeownership? Is it just one of those things that got repeated so many times people believe it without checking the math?

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Joshua Wood

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Not a dumb question at all! There are a few reasons: 1. It WAS more valuable before the standard deduction nearly doubled in 2017. Many more homeowners itemized then. 2. For people with very large mortgages (like in high-cost areas) who have enough deductions to itemize anyway, it still provides some tax benefit - though they're still paying more in interest than they save in taxes. 3. Real estate agents, mortgage lenders, and others in the industry have incentives to promote homeownership, and the tax deduction sounds like a great selling point. 4. Financial myths tend to persist, especially when they're repeated by seemingly knowledgeable people (like financial advisors who should know better!) 5. Most people don't actually calculate the true cost vs. benefit - they just hear "tax deduction" and think "free money.

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Gavin King

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Thanks for explaining this so clearly! It makes so much more sense now. I guess I should be more skeptical when I hear about "great tax advantages" without seeing the actual numbers worked out.

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