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Zara Rashid

Schedule F or C? How to Handle Farm Expenses with YouTube Income

So last summer my wife and I purchased a 72 acre farm that's mainly timber/wooded land. This is now my primary occupation after leaving my corporate job. The thing is, we haven't actually sold any timber or farm products yet since taking ownership. We're still in the early stages of getting everything set up properly. Here's where it gets complicated - I've been documenting the whole journey on YouTube and making decent money from Google Adsense on those videos (about $2,100 monthly). My question is about how to file taxes correctly. Should I be using Schedule F for farm expenses and Schedule C for the YouTube income? Or can I somehow combine them since the YouTube content is directly about the farm? I've already spent around $34,000 on farm equipment, fencing, and other startup costs that I want to deduct properly. I'm just really confused about which forms to use since the income isn't directly from farm operations yet, but from content I create about the farm. Any advice would be super appreciated!

Luca Romano

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This is actually a common scenario with modern farming operations! The key question is whether your YouTube channel is an integral part of your farm business or a separate activity. If your YouTube content is specifically about your farming operation and you're presenting it as part of your overall farm business (like documenting your journey, sharing farming techniques, etc.), you could potentially treat it as farm income on Schedule F. The IRS looks at the "regularly carried on" nature of activities and whether they're part of a unified business operation. However, since your only actual income is from YouTube/Adsense and not from farm products themselves, you might be safer filing Schedule C for the YouTube income and Schedule F for the farm expenses. This approach clearly separates the two activities until your farm begins generating direct income. You'll still be able to deduct legitimate farm startup expenses on Schedule F even with no farm income yet, though it will create a farm loss. Also, be aware that the IRS has special rules for farms that consistently show losses, called the "hobby loss" rules. You'll need to demonstrate your intent to make a profit from the actual farming operation over time.

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Nia Jackson

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Can you explain more about the "hobby loss" rules? We also have a small farm (30 acres) and have been operating at a loss for 2 years while getting established. How many years can you show losses before the IRS flags it?

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Luca Romano

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The IRS generally looks at a period of 5 years to determine if your activity is profit-motivated or a hobby. If you show a profit in 3 out of 5 consecutive years (2 out of 7 years for horse breeding/training), there's a presumption that you're running a business rather than a hobby. Even if you don't meet that test, you can still prove profit motive through other factors: operating in a businesslike manner, expertise in the field, time and effort invested, expectation that assets will appreciate, success in similar activities, history of income/losses, occasional profits, and your financial status. Keeping detailed records and a business plan showing how you intend to become profitable is extremely important.

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Aisha Khan

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Sounds interesting but I'm skeptical. A friend got audited last year because he mixed his online course income with his actual farm revenue. Wouldn't keeping everything on Schedule F be simpler?

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Andre Dupont

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One thing to consider that nobody's mentioned yet - if your YouTube channel is making significant income, you might want to look into setting up an LLC or S-Corp for that part of your business. We did this with our homestead YouTube channel once it started making more than $40k/year, and it helped with tax planning. You can still keep your farm as a separate entity (or sole proprietorship) on Schedule F, but having the YouTube business as an S-Corp might give you some additional tax advantages depending on your specific situation. We save about $7,500 annually in self-employment taxes this way.

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Zara Rashid

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That's something I hadn't considered! At what income level did you find it worth the extra paperwork and accounting costs to set up the separate entity? My YouTube is making about $25k annually right now but growing quickly.

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Andre Dupont

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For us, the breakeven point was around $35-40k in annual YouTube income. At that level, the self-employment tax savings started to outweigh the costs of maintaining the S-Corp (extra tax return, payroll requirements, accounting fees, etc.). With your current $25k, you're probably still better off as a sole proprietorship on Schedule C for now, but if you're growing quickly, start talking to a CPA sooner rather than later. The transition timing matters, especially with setting reasonable officer compensation. We waited a bit too long and missed out on some potential savings in that transition year.

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QuantumQuasar

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Has anyone else had issues with farm startup costs? I'm in a similar situation (40 acre property, making money from online content but not actual farm products yet), and my tax software keeps flagging my equipment purchases saying I need to depreciate instead of taking Section 179. So confused about what's allowed in the first year.

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I went through this last year! You absolutely CAN take Section 179 for farm equipment in your first year, even without farm income, as long as the equipment is put into service. The business use requirement is the key thing - if you're using the equipment 100% for the farm, you should be eligible. What tax software are you using? I had to override TurboTax to make it work correctly. Also make sure you're keeping detailed logs of how you're using the equipment for your farm business.

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QuantumQuasar

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Thanks for confirming! I'm using H&R Block software and it keeps giving me warnings, but doesn't actually prevent me from claiming Section 179. I'll create better usage logs to document everything. I think the software might be confused because I have farm expenses but my only income is from content creation. Makes me nervous about getting flagged for an audit, but I'm definitely using all the equipment for legitimate farm purposes.

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Nia Johnson

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This is a really interesting situation that's becoming more common! I'm dealing with something similar - I have a small organic vegetable operation that I'm documenting on TikTok and Instagram, and the social media income is actually outpacing my produce sales right now. From what I've researched and discussed with my accountant, keeping them separate (Schedule C for content, Schedule F for farm) seems to be the safest approach. The IRS likes clear distinctions between different types of business activities. Even though your YouTube content is about the farm, the income source is fundamentally different - you're being paid by Google for ad revenue, not by customers for farm products. One thing I'd add is to make sure you're tracking any equipment or expenses that serve both businesses. For example, if you buy a tractor that you use 80% for actual farming and 20% for filming content, you'll need to allocate those costs appropriately between the two schedules. Same goes for things like your phone if you're using it to film and manage both businesses. Also, don't worry too much about the farm showing losses initially - that's completely normal for startup agricultural operations. Just make sure you have a solid business plan showing how you intend to generate farm income in the future. The fact that you're actively working the land and making investments shows business intent rather than hobby activity.

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