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Alexis Robinson

Can I claim deductions on Youtube expenses before my channel is monetized?

I've started a YouTube channel that I'm really serious about growing into a full-time gig to eventually replace my regular job. Right now it's not monetized yet, but I'm investing in several tools to make it professional: monthly subscriptions for Canva Pro, TubeBuddy, and Thematic for my video production and channel optimization. The thing is, I haven't set up an LLC or registered as a sole proprietor or anything formal yet. I'm wondering if I can still deduct these YouTube-related expenses from my taxes even though I'm not making income from it yet? I'm treating this as a legitimate business venture, not just a hobby - I have a business plan and I'm actively working toward monetization. To be clear, I'm not just looking for random tax write-offs. This is something I'm committed to turning into a revenue-generating business. Should I formally register as a business first? Or can I claim these deductions on my personal taxes somehow? What's the proper way to handle these expenses for tax purposes when you're in the pre-revenue stage?

Aaron Lee

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Yes, you can potentially deduct your YouTube channel expenses even before monetization, but there are important things to know about business vs. hobby classification. The IRS doesn't require you to have an LLC or formal business registration to claim business deductions. What matters is whether your activity qualifies as a business rather than a hobby. Since you're treating this as a business with the intention of making a profit, you're on the right track. You would report these expenses on Schedule C of your personal tax return as a sole proprietor. The fact that you don't have revenue yet doesn't automatically disqualify you, but the IRS does look at the "profit motive" and expects businesses to show a profit in 3 out of 5 years. Keep detailed records of all expenses and document your business plan showing how you intend to generate revenue. Make sure to only deduct ordinary and necessary business expenses. Those subscriptions you mentioned should qualify if they're directly related to your YouTube business.

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Thank you for the info! Does this mean I need to show some sort of revenue within the first 3 years to keep deducting expenses? I'm planning to eventually monetize through sponsorships rather than just YouTube ad revenue. Also, should I get an EIN for tax purposes even without forming an LLC?

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Aaron Lee

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You don't necessarily need to show revenue immediately, but the IRS does expect to see a profit (not just revenue) in 3 out of 5 years for most businesses. If you don't meet this, they may reclassify your business as a hobby, which limits deductions. Having a solid business plan showing your path to profitability through sponsorships or other means will help if you're ever questioned. An EIN isn't required if you're operating as a sole proprietor with no employees - you can use your SSN. However, getting an EIN is free and can be helpful to separate your business identity from your personal one, especially when working with sponsors or setting up business accounts.

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Natalie Wang

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How does it handle mixed-use items? Like, I use my computer and internet for both personal stuff and YouTube. Can it figure out what percentage is deductible or do I need to track that myself?

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Don't forget about home office deduction if you have a dedicated space for your YouTube work! That's something many creators miss. The space has to be used exclusively for business though, so your gaming/recording setup needs to be in a dedicated area.

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Madison Allen

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But isn't the home office deduction a huge audit red flag? I've heard horror stories about people getting audited just for claiming it. I use a corner of my bedroom for all my YouTube stuff but I'm scared to claim it.

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The home office deduction being an automatic audit trigger is mostly an outdated myth. The IRS simplified the rules with a standard deduction option that's much less likely to raise eyebrows. Just make sure you actually have a space used exclusively for business. For a bedroom corner, it gets tricky. The space needs to be used EXCLUSIVELY for business, so if your setup is in a multi-purpose room, you may not qualify. Some creators set up dividers or screens to physically separate their "office" space to help meet this requirement. Take clear photos of your workspace for documentation.

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Joshua Wood

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Has anyone tried TurboTax Self-Employed for handling YouTube business expenses? I'm wondering if it's worth the extra cost over the regular version for someone just starting out.

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Justin Evans

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I used it last year for my channel. It asks all the right questions about business expenses and walks you through everything. I think it's worth it because it specifically guides you through Schedule C and helps identify deductions relevant to content creators. The expense tracking feature alone saved me tons of time.

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Emma Bianchi

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Great question! I'm in a similar situation with my tech review channel. One thing I learned is that you should start keeping meticulous records NOW, even before you're making money. Create a separate spreadsheet or use an app to track every YouTube-related expense with receipts, dates, and business justification. The IRS really cares about your "profit motive" - basically proving this isn't just an expensive hobby. Document your business plan, marketing efforts, time invested, and steps toward monetization. Even things like researching your niche, competitor analysis, and audience engagement strategies can show business intent. Also consider the "startup costs" category - the IRS allows you to deduct up to $5,000 in business startup expenses in your first year, which could cover a lot of your initial equipment and software investments. Just make sure you can clearly separate business use from personal use for any shared items.

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Diego Vargas

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This is really helpful advice about documenting profit motive! I'm curious about the startup costs deduction - does that $5,000 limit apply to the total amount you can deduct, or is that separate from your ongoing business expenses? For example, if I spend $3,000 on startup costs and then have $2,000 in ongoing monthly expenses like software subscriptions, can I deduct all $5,000 or do they count together somehow? Also, when you mention separating business from personal use, do you need to have completely separate equipment or can you use the same computer/phone for both and just calculate the business percentage?

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Sophia Nguyen

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Great questions! The $5,000 startup cost deduction is separate from your ongoing business expenses - so in your example, you could deduct the full $3,000 in startup costs AND the $2,000 in ongoing expenses. Startup costs are one-time expenses to get your business going (equipment, initial software setup, etc.), while ongoing expenses like monthly subscriptions are regular business deductions. For shared equipment, you absolutely can use the same computer/phone for both business and personal use. You just need to calculate what percentage is used for business. Keep a log for a few weeks tracking your usage - like if you use your computer 6 hours for YouTube work and 2 hours personal daily, that's 75% business use. You can then deduct 75% of related expenses (computer depreciation, internet, etc.). The key is having a reasonable method and documentation to back it up. I use a simple spreadsheet to track this - way easier than buying separate equipment for everything!

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Freya Nielsen

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One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet is quarterly estimated tax payments. Since you're planning to turn this into a profitable business, you'll want to start thinking about this early. Once you do start generating income from sponsorships or monetization, you might owe quarterly taxes if you expect to owe $1,000 or more annually. I'd recommend setting aside a percentage of any future YouTube income in a separate savings account earmarked for taxes - maybe 25-30% to be safe. This way you won't get hit with a surprise tax bill and potential penalties when your channel takes off. Also, consider getting a business credit card specifically for your YouTube expenses. It makes tracking so much easier and helps establish that business vs. personal separation. Plus you might earn rewards on all those software subscriptions and equipment purchases. Just make sure to pay it off monthly to avoid interest charges eating into your future profits!

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Dmitry Petrov

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This is excellent advice about quarterly taxes! I wish someone had told me this when I started my channel. One thing I'd add is that the IRS has a "safe harbor" rule - if you pay at least 100% of last year's tax liability through quarterly payments, you won't get hit with penalties even if you end up owing more. This can be really helpful for creators whose income fluctuates a lot. The business credit card tip is spot on too. I use a Chase Ink card specifically for all my YouTube expenses and it makes tax time so much easier. Plus the rewards have actually helped offset some of my costs. Just be disciplined about only using it for legitimate business expenses - mixing personal and business purchases will make your life much harder come tax season. Setting aside 25-30% is smart. I learned the hard way that YouTube income can be inconsistent, so having that tax cushion saved me from scrambling when I had a big sponsorship deal early on.

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This is such a timely question - I'm dealing with the exact same situation with my gaming channel! Based on what I've learned from my accountant, you're absolutely right to start deducting those expenses now even without monetization. The key thing the IRS looks for is "profit motive" - which sounds like you clearly have with your business plan and serious approach. You don't need formal business registration to claim these deductions on Schedule C of your personal return as a sole proprietor. One crucial tip: start documenting EVERYTHING now. I created a simple spreadsheet tracking every expense with date, amount, business purpose, and receipt photo. For those monthly subscriptions like Canva Pro and TubeBuddy, they're perfect examples of "ordinary and necessary" business expenses since they're directly related to content creation. Also consider tracking your time investment - hours spent on video creation, research, learning new skills, etc. This helps demonstrate the business nature of your activity versus just a hobby. The IRS wants to see consistent, profit-directed effort even before revenue starts flowing. The 3-out-of-5-years profit rule others mentioned is real, but don't let it scare you. Many legitimate businesses take time to become profitable, especially in content creation. Your business plan showing the path to monetization through sponsorships will be valuable documentation if ever questioned.

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Cass Green

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This is incredibly helpful, thank you! I'm just starting my YouTube journey focused on personal finance education and was worried about claiming expenses too early. Your point about documenting time investment is something I hadn't considered - I've been spending hours researching topics, learning video editing, and planning content strategy, but wasn't tracking it as "business activity." Quick question about the profit motive documentation - should I be creating a formal written business plan, or is it enough to have notes about my monetization strategy and goals? I have a clear vision for how I want to generate revenue through affiliate marketing, course sales, and eventually coaching, but it's mostly in my head right now. Also, for equipment that I use partially for personal use (like my laptop), do you track actual hours or just estimate a reasonable business percentage? I'm trying to be conservative but also don't want to leave money on the table.

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Malik Jenkins

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Great question about documentation! I'd strongly recommend putting that business plan in writing - it doesn't need to be fancy, but having a documented plan with your monetization strategy, target audience, revenue projections, and timeline will be invaluable if the IRS ever questions your profit motive. Even a simple 2-3 page document outlining your goals and how you plan to achieve them shows serious business intent. For mixed-use equipment like your laptop, I track actual usage for a few representative weeks each year rather than just estimating. I keep a simple log showing hours used for business vs personal activities. For example, if I use my laptop 6 hours daily for YouTube work and 2 hours for personal stuff, that's 75% business use. This gives you real data to support your deduction percentage rather than just guessing. Personal finance content is perfect for monetization too - that niche has tons of opportunities for affiliate income, sponsored content, and your own products. Document all of this in your business plan and keep records of any steps you take toward these goals (researching affiliate programs, reaching out to potential sponsors, etc.). This all helps establish legitimate business activity even before the money starts flowing.

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