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Noah Ali

Tax implications when starting YouTube channel with negative income for first few years - can I offset my 1099 income?

My tax situation is getting complicated and I could use some advice. Currently I have: Job 1: W2 employment bringing in roughly $410k annually Job 2: 1099 contract work generating between $135-270k per year. I've set this up with its own EIN and I'm the sole proprietor. I claim about $13-20k in deductions yearly for this business (vehicle, lodging, etc.) and have a solo 401k. Now I'm thinking about launching a YouTube channel (Job 3) that would likely have significant expenses but minimal income for the first few years. This would primarily involve travel costs and equipment purchases (cameras, etc.) potentially exceeding $13.5k annually. I'd establish this with a separate EIN as another sole proprietorship. The hope is that advertising revenue would eventually make it profitable after several years of building content and subscribers. My main question: Since both businesses would have separate EINs, with Job 2 generating substantial positive income and Job 3 likely operating at a loss initially, can I deduct Job 3's business expenses against Job 2's income? Or can Job 3's expenses only offset income specifically from Job 3? I'm aware of the IRS requirement that a business needs to show profit in at least 3 out of 5 years to avoid being classified as a hobby. Any thoughts on how this might impact my situation would be greatly appreciated!

The short answer is that losses from one Schedule C business can offset income from another Schedule C business, as well as other income sources like your W-2 wages. When you file your taxes, all of your Schedule C businesses (both your current 1099 work and the new YouTube channel) would be reported on separate Schedule C forms, but then flow to your personal 1040. The net profit or loss from each business is combined on your personal return. So yes, if your YouTube channel operates at a loss initially, those legitimate business expenses can offset income from your other 1099 work or even your W-2 income. However, there are important considerations: 1. You need to be able to prove you're running the YouTube channel with a genuine profit motive. Document your business plan, marketing efforts, and steps you're taking to eventually become profitable. 2. The hobby loss rules you mentioned (known as Section 183) are important. While not making a profit in 3 of 5 consecutive years doesn't automatically make it a hobby, it creates a presumption you'll need to overcome.

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Noah Ali

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Thanks for clarifying! Does having a separate EIN for the YouTube business provide any additional legitimacy in the eyes of the IRS regarding profit motive, or is that completely irrelevant? Also, would it be advisable to maintain very detailed records of how the equipment purchases directly relate to content creation? For example, if I buy an expensive camera, should I document each video it's used in?

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Having a separate EIN doesn't particularly strengthen your case regarding profit motive. The IRS looks at your actual business activities rather than how you've structured things administratively. An EIN is useful for banking and other practical purposes, but doesn't impact how the IRS evaluates whether your activity is a business or hobby. Detailed record-keeping is absolutely essential. For equipment purchases, maintain receipts and document how each item is used for business purposes. While you don't need to log every video a camera appears in, you should maintain a log showing business use versus any personal use, especially for items that could be used for both (like computers or vehicles). The more organized and comprehensive your documentation, the stronger your position if questioned.

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Sarah Jones

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Something important to consider - make sure you're documenting EVERYTHING for your YouTube business, especially in those early loss years. My friend started a similar business and got audited in year 3. The IRS disallowed most of his deductions because he didn't have: 1. A written business plan showing path to profitability 2. Separate business bank account and credit card 3. Formal accounting records 4. Marketing materials/website showing commercial intent 5. Proper documentation connecting expenses to business purpose They reclassified his business as a hobby and he had to pay back thousands in taxes plus penalties. Even though he was genuinely trying to make money, without the documentation, the IRS sided against him.

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This is scary! Did he have an LLC or was he doing Schedule C? I thought having a formal business entity offered more protection.

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Sarah Jones

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He was operating as a sole proprietor on Schedule C, just like you're planning to do. But the business entity type doesn't really matter for the hobby vs. business determination. Even LLCs can be classified as hobbies if they don't meet the criteria. The key factor is being able to demonstrate a genuine profit motive through documentation and business practices. This includes having a business plan, separate accounts, formal records, advertising/marketing efforts, and changing business practices to improve profitability over time. The IRS looks at how you actually operate, not just your legal structure. My friend's biggest mistake was mixing personal and business expenses and not having clear documentation showing how each expense contributed to his eventual path to profitability.

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Emily Sanjay

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Don't forget about self-employment taxes! Even if your YouTube business has losses that offset your other 1099 income for income tax purposes, you'll still pay SE tax on the net profit from your existing 1099 work. The SE tax is calculated separately for each Schedule C business - losses from one don't offset SE tax on another. Also, have you looked into an S-Corp election for your profitable 1099 business? At your income level, you might save significantly on SE taxes by taking a reasonable salary plus distributions.

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Noah Ali

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That's a really good point about the self-employment taxes that I hadn't considered. So even if the YouTube losses offset my income tax, I'd still be paying the full SE tax on my current 1099 income? Regarding the S-Corp suggestion - I've been considering that actually. What would you consider a "reasonable salary" for my current 1099 work given the income range I mentioned?

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Emily Sanjay

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Yes, you would still pay the full SE tax on your current 1099 business. Self-employment tax is calculated on each Schedule C separately - losses from one business don't reduce SE tax liability for another profitable business. For an S-Corp reasonable salary, there's no exact formula, but it should be comparable to what you would pay someone else to do the same work. For a high-earning consultant making $135-270k, a reasonable salary might be around 50-60% of your total profits. The remaining amount could be taken as distributions not subject to SE tax, potentially saving you thousands. However, S-Corps come with additional compliance requirements and costs (payroll processing, separate tax return, etc.). At your income level though, the savings would likely outweigh these costs. I'd recommend running the numbers with a tax professional familiar with your specific situation.

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Aisha Mahmood

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One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is the importance of timing your equipment purchases strategically. Since you're expecting significant expenses in the early years of your YouTube business, consider using Section 179 expensing or bonus depreciation to deduct the full cost of equipment purchases in the year you buy them, rather than depreciating them over several years. This is especially valuable when you have high income from your other sources that the YouTube losses can offset. For example, if you buy $13.5k worth of camera equipment in year one when your YouTube channel has minimal income, you can potentially deduct the full amount against your W-2 and 1099 income that same year. Also, keep in mind that the IRS looks at the totality of circumstances when determining business vs. hobby status. Even if you show losses in the first few years, factors like time and effort devoted to the activity, expertise you bring, success in similar activities, and expectation of asset appreciation all work in your favor. Since you already have successful business experience with your 1099 work, that demonstrates you understand how to run a profitable business. Just make sure you're treating the YouTube venture like a real business from day one - separate accounts, business plan, marketing efforts, etc. The documentation you create now will be crucial if the IRS ever questions your deductions later.

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