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Landon Flounder

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Whatever you do DONT AMEND until your first refund comes through! Made that mistake last year and ended up waiting 9 months for processing

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Geoff Richards

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9 MONTHS?! yeah no thanks ill wait ๐Ÿ˜ญ

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Callum Savage

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idk if this helps but my bank literally sent my 1099-INT in february last year too. ended up just waiting for the refund then amended. paid like $150 extra in taxes but worth not dealing with the headache tbh

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LunarLegend

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This is exactly what I needed to hear! $150 extra vs months of waiting seems like a no-brainer. Did you have any issues when you amended later or was it pretty straightforward?

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Zara Mirza

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This happened to me and it turned out to be my student loan payment! The servicer had changed and it was listed as "DEPT ED/TAX" on my statement which I totally misread as a tax charge. Check if you have any student loans in repayment - the labels can be super confusing.

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Luca Russo

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Yes! This happened to me too. My federal student loan payment showed up as "DEPT TREASURY" something on my bank statement and I panicked thinking it was the IRS. The banks use the weirdest abbreviations for these things.

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Ella Harper

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Isabella, I feel for you - this exact situation happened to me two years ago and I was terrified! In my case, it turned out to be an offset for unpaid back taxes from 2019 that I had completely forgotten about. The IRS had applied my expected refund to that old debt and then withdrawn the difference from my account. What saved me was logging into my IRS online account immediately - you can create one at irs.gov with your Social Security number and some identity verification. Once you're in, look at your "Account Transcript" which will show ALL recent activity including any offsets, adjustments, or automatic withdrawals. The transcript will also show if there are any notices that were supposed to be mailed to you. Sometimes these get lost or sent to old addresses. If you see notices listed there that you never received, you can actually view and download them directly from your online account. Don't panic about the rent money just yet - if this was an IRS error, they do reverse transactions, though it can take a few weeks. But getting into that online account should give you answers within minutes rather than waiting hours on the phone. Good luck!

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NeonNebula

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Has anyone else noticed that Morgan Stanley seems to mess this up a lot? I had the same issue when I became a resident, and it took them forever to update their systems. Their customer service was useless when I tried to get help too. Anyone have any luck getting them to fix this?

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I recommend sending a secure message through their portal specifically asking for the "Tax Reporting Department." Regular customer service reps don't know how to handle these tax document issues, but if you get to the right department, they can issue corrected forms. Took about 3 weeks for me, but they eventually fixed it.

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Daniel Price

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I'm dealing with a very similar situation right now! I received both forms from E*Trade for the same reason - they had me classified as a non-resident for the first part of 2024 even though I've been a US resident the whole year. What really helped me was calling the IRS directly to confirm the reporting approach. The agent I spoke with explained that this is actually pretty common when brokerage firms don't update residency status quickly enough in their systems. She confirmed that as a US resident, I should report the dividend income from both forms as regular dividend income, but enter them separately to ensure all withholding is properly credited. The key thing she emphasized was making sure I claim ALL the federal tax withholding from both forms - don't miss any of it because that's money you've already paid to the IRS. In my case, the 1042-S withholding was actually higher than normal dividend withholding rates, so I ended up getting a bigger refund than expected. For FreeTaxUSA specifically, I found the 1042-S entry under "Federal" โ†’ "Income" โ†’ "Less Common Income" โ†’ "Other Income Not Reported on Form 1099" and then there's a specific dropdown option for 1042-S. Make sure to enter the withholding amount in the federal tax withheld section when prompted.

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NebulaNova

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I'm a new landlord and this is honestly terrifying to read about. I had no idea tenants could try to pull schemes like this with tax forms. A few questions for the more experienced folks here: 1) Are there any warning signs I should watch for that might indicate a tenant is planning something like this? 2) Should I be proactively educating myself about these scams, or is this rare enough that I shouldn't worry unless it happens? 3) Is there anything I can include in my lease agreements to protect against this kind of fraudulent tax filing? I really appreciate everyone sharing their knowledge and experiences here. The fact that multiple people have dealt with similar situations makes me realize this might be more common than I thought. Definitely going to bookmark those resources people mentioned (taxr.ai and claimyr) just in case I ever need them.

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Zoe Papadopoulos

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I'm dealing with something very similar right now and this thread has been incredibly helpful! My tenant is 2 months behind on rent but just handed me some kind of "promissory note" from his "private trust" claiming it will cover all past and future rent payments. He also mentioned he's filing tax forms to "discharge the debt" which now makes perfect sense after reading about these redemption theory scams. What's really concerning me is that he's been asking for my business EIN number saying he needs it to "properly process the trust payment." After reading all these responses, I'm realizing this is probably part of the scheme to file fraudulent tax forms using my information. I'm going to follow the advice here - document everything, report to the IRS with Form 3949-A, and send certified mail notice that I'm aware of the fraudulent activity. It's scary how sophisticated these scams have become, but at least now I know I'm not alone in dealing with this and there are clear steps to take. Thank you especially to those who shared the resources like taxr.ai for understanding the tax implications and claimyr for actually getting through to the IRS. Having concrete tools to handle this situation makes it feel much less overwhelming. For any other landlords reading this - don't ignore weird paperwork or trust documents from tenants. These schemes rely on our confusion and inaction to succeed.

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I just want to echo what Connor said - DO NOT give your tenant your EIN! I made that mistake early in my landlording career with a different scam and it took months to clean up the mess. Once they have your business tax ID, they can file all sorts of fraudulent forms claiming you owe them money or that they've "discharged debts" on your behalf. The promissory note from a "private trust" is textbook sovereign citizen nonsense. I've seen these exact documents before - they're designed to look official and confusing so landlords think there might be some legitimacy to them. There isn't. One thing I'd add to your action plan: consider consulting with a landlord-tenant attorney in your area. Many states have specific laws about tenant fraud, and an attorney can help you understand if this behavior gives you grounds for immediate eviction beyond just non-payment of rent. Some jurisdictions treat fraudulent document submission as a lease violation that allows for faster eviction proceedings. You're handling this exactly right by taking it seriously from the start. These scammers count on landlords being too busy or confused to fight back properly. The fact that you're documenting everything and reporting to the IRS shows you're not going to be an easy target.

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Emma Anderson

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I'm so glad you found this thread helpful! Your situation with the "promissory note" and requests for your EIN definitely fits the pattern everyone has described. It's honestly shocking how these scammers have basically created a playbook that they're all following. One thing I wanted to add that hasn't been mentioned yet - you might want to also check your credit reports to make sure the tenant hasn't already tried to use any of your business information to open accounts or file other fraudulent documents. These schemes sometimes involve multiple types of identity theft beyond just the tax forms. Also, when you send that certified mail notice, consider including language that any further fraudulent documents submitted will result in immediate legal action. Sometimes just letting them know you understand exactly what they're trying to do is enough to make them back off and look for easier targets. It's really encouraging to see so many landlords sharing their experiences and helping each other recognize these scams. The more we educate ourselves about these tactics, the harder it becomes for scammers to succeed with their schemes.

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Sofia Martinez

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Just want to add - even if you could make this work legally (which you can't as others explained), the practical aspects would still be problematic. If your LLC is donating 100% of its profits every year, it would look suspicious regardless of who's receiving the donations. The IRS expects businesses to be operated with a profit motive. Continually zeroing out your taxable income through donations would eventually trigger questions about whether you're running a legitimate business or just a tax avoidance scheme. Also, vehicle donations specifically are closely scrutinized because of past abuse. The rules for vehicle donations were tightened years ago precisely because of schemes similar to what you're describing.

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Dmitry Volkov

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This is so true. My brother-in-law tried something similar (donating inventory from his business to a related nonprofit) and it triggered a full IRS examination. They ended up disallowing most of the deductions and hit him with a 20% accuracy-related penalty on top of the taxes owed. Not worth the risk at all.

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Anna Kerber

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I appreciate everyone sharing their experiences and expertise here. As someone new to business taxation, this thread has been incredibly educational. What strikes me most is how the seemingly "clever" tax strategies often end up being more expensive and risky than just paying taxes legitimately. Between audit risks, penalties, legal fees, and the stress of dealing with IRS scrutiny, it seems like the legitimate approaches mentioned here (retirement contributions, proper business deductions, Section 199A deduction) are not only safer but probably more effective in the long run. I'm curious - for those who have successfully implemented legitimate tax strategies, what would you say is the most important first step for a new business owner? Should I focus on finding a good CPA first, or start by learning the basics myself through resources like the ones mentioned in this thread? The horror stories about audits and penalties are definitely making me want to be extra cautious from the start.

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