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Noah Torres

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Has anyone tried getting their W2 information directly from the IRS transcript service? I've heard you can view your wage and income transcript online and it shows essentially the same info that would be on your W2.

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Yes, but there's a catch - the wage and income transcripts aren't typically available for the current tax year until late May or June. So it won't help OP file on time for this tax season. It's more useful for prior years' missing W2s.

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Ally Tailer

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Another option worth considering is contacting your state's Department of Labor or equivalent agency. Many states have procedures for helping workers obtain missing wage documents from unresponsive employers. Since you mentioned having issues with both a Michigan and Florida company, you could file complaints with both states' labor departments. In my experience, employers often respond much faster to government agency inquiries than to individual requests. The state agencies can sometimes compel employers to provide required documents or face penalties. It's worth trying this route while you're also pursuing the IRS Form 4852 option - having multiple approaches working simultaneously might get you results faster. You can usually file these complaints online through each state's labor department website. They'll typically ask for details about your employment dates, the employer's contact information, and documentation of your attempts to obtain the W2s.

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This is really helpful advice! I hadn't thought about involving state labor departments. Do you know if there are any specific deadlines for filing these complaints? I'm worried that since we're already well into tax season, it might be too late for the state agencies to help with getting the W2s in time for filing. Also, would filing complaints with the state departments potentially cause any issues if I also go the IRS Form 4852 route? I don't want to create conflicting processes or confuse things if multiple government agencies are involved.

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Be careful with gifts to children - depending on how much and how it's set up, there could be kiddie tax implications if the money generates a lot of investment income. For smaller amounts it's usually not an issue.

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Lucy Lam

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What's the threshold for kiddie tax in 2025? We're planning to set up investment accounts for our nieces and nephews.

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Tasia Synder

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For 2025, the kiddie tax applies to unearned income (like investment gains, interest, dividends) over $2,650 for children under 19 (or under 24 if full-time students). The first $1,325 is tax-free, the next $1,325 is taxed at the child's rate (usually 10%), and anything above $2,650 gets taxed at the parents' marginal rate. So if you're gifting money that will just sit in a savings account earning minimal interest, kiddie tax won't be an issue. But if you're planning to invest larger amounts that could generate significant returns, you might want to consider 529 plans or other tax-advantaged accounts instead. The kiddie tax rules are designed to prevent parents from shifting large amounts of investment income to their children's lower tax brackets.

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This is such great advice from everyone! Just wanted to add one more consideration - if your dad is concerned about the paperwork aspect of filing Form 709 for gifts over $18k per person, he might want to consider making the gifts in January rather than later in the year. That way if he decides to spread larger amounts across multiple years, he maximizes the time between gift dates. Also, since you mentioned you have young kids, your dad might want to look into educational gift strategies. He can pay tuition directly to educational institutions (including private school, tutoring, etc.) without it counting toward the annual gift limits at all. Same goes for medical expenses paid directly to healthcare providers. These "qualified transfers" are completely separate from the $18k annual exclusion amounts. One last thought - if your family is in different states, make sure to check if there are any state-level gift tax implications. Most states don't have gift taxes, but a few do, and the rules can be different from federal requirements.

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This is really comprehensive advice, thank you! I had no idea about the qualified transfers for education and medical expenses - that could be huge for our family. My dad has been helping with some of my kids' tutoring costs anyway, so knowing he can pay those directly without it affecting the gift limits is amazing. Quick question about the timing - you mentioned making gifts in January. Is there any other benefit to that timing besides just maximizing time between years? Like does it affect when any required forms need to be filed? Also, we're in California and my dad is in Nevada - do you know if either of those states have gift tax issues I should worry about?

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4 Does anyone know if you need to apportion the RSU income based on days worked in each state, or is it strictly based on residency at vesting? My situation is complicated because I lived in California when the RSUs were granted, but was traveling between California and Texas for work during the vesting periods.

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17 In my experience, it depends on the states involved and their specific rules. California, for example, looks at both where you were resident and where the work was performed that earned the compensation. For RSUs, California typically considers where you performed services during the period from grant to vest, not just where you were on vesting day. So if you split time between CA and TX, you might need to calculate the percentage of time you physically worked in each state during that period and allocate accordingly.

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Ellie Perry

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One thing I'd add is to make sure you understand the timing of when California considers RSU income to be "earned." California generally follows the rule that RSU income is earned ratably over the vesting period from grant date to vest date, not just on the vesting date itself. This means if you received RSUs in January 2022 while living in California, but moved to Washington in July 2022, and the RSUs vested in January 2024, California would typically claim tax on approximately 50% of that income (the portion earned while you were a CA resident). The key is documenting your exact move date and keeping records of your RSU grant agreements. I'd also recommend running the numbers both ways - allocating by days worked vs. strict residency periods - to see which method results in the most accurate tax treatment for your specific situation.

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This is really helpful - I hadn't considered that California might view RSU income as being earned ratably over the entire vesting period rather than just at the vest date. That definitely changes how I need to think about allocating the income between states. Do you know if there's an official IRS or California publication that explains this "ratable earning" approach? I want to make sure I'm calculating the allocation correctly and have proper documentation to support my position if questioned.

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Mei Lin

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Looking at your transcript timeline, I can see why you're confused about that October date! The sequence actually makes perfect sense though - your amended return (code 977) from June triggered the refund freeze (code 810), and now the IRS has scheduled the final processing for October 7th (code 290). That October date isn't when they'll START working on it, it's their target completion date. The good news is that 20243805 cycle code indicates this is moving through their system normally. I've seen plenty of cases where people got their refunds 2-4 weeks before the projected 290 date once the IRS finished their review. Keep watching for code 846 (refund issued) or any 971 codes (notices) - those will tell you when things are actually wrapping up. The wait is annoying but your case is definitely progressing!

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Nalani Liu

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This explanation really helps put everything in perspective! I've been so focused on that October date thinking it meant I'd have to wait that long, but knowing it's actually their target completion date makes me feel a lot more optimistic. I'll definitely start watching for those 846 and 971 codes you mentioned. It's reassuring to hear that other people have gotten their refunds weeks before the projected date. Thanks for taking the time to break down what that cycle code means too - I had no idea what those numbers were for!

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I went through almost the exact same thing earlier this year! Had my amended return filed in March, got the 810 freeze code, and then saw a 290 code with a date that was like 5 months out. I was freaking out thinking I'd have to wait that long, but my refund actually came about 6 weeks before that projected date. The key thing is watching for any movement on your transcript - when they're getting close to finishing, you'll usually see some activity like additional codes popping up. Also, don't stress too much about that cycle code 20243805 - that's just their internal processing batch number and it's moving through normally. The October date is really just their conservative estimate to manage expectations, but amended returns often wrap up earlier than projected once they clear the review process.

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Isabel Vega

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That's really encouraging to hear from someone who went through the same thing! 6 weeks earlier than projected sounds amazing compared to waiting until October. I keep refreshing my transcript hoping to see some kind of movement, but it's been pretty static since that 810 freeze showed up. Did you notice any specific codes that appeared right before your refund got released? I'm trying to figure out what to watch for so I know when things are actually moving forward instead of just sitting in limbo.

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Dylan Hughes

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Bruh these apps all the same fr just pick one and pray 😭

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I've used both actually! DailyPay was solid for my refund last year - took about the same time as Chime (2-3 days after IRS sent). The main difference I noticed was DailyPay's customer service was more responsive when I had questions. But honestly @Zoe Papadakis makes a good point about traditional banks being more reliable overall. If you're already set up with Chime and it's worked fine, might not be worth switching unless you have other reasons to use DailyPay.

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Carmen Ortiz

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Thanks for the real comparison! That's helpful to know they're pretty similar timing-wise. I'm leaning towards just sticking with Chime since it's been working fine for me. Don't really want to deal with setting up a whole new account just to potentially save a day or two

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