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Anyone else's as of date keep changing? Mine moved like 3 times already smh

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Jamal Wilson

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same boat fam. its been a rollercoaster ngl

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Carmen Diaz

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TC 291 typically means they made an adjustment that reduced your tax liability, which is actually good news! The "as of" date is when they plan to process it, but don't stress if it changes - that's totally normal. I had the same code last year and got my refund about 2-3 weeks after it appeared. Just keep checking your transcript weekly for updates, especially looking for TC 846 which means refund issued. You're in the home stretch! šŸ¤ž

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Thank you so much for this explanation! I've been stressing about this for days and your comment really helped calm my nerves. Quick question - when you say "reduced tax liability" does that mean I might actually get a bigger refund than expected? šŸ¤” Also really appreciate the timeline info, gives me something concrete to look forward to!

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Adding to this great discussion - I went through the exact same scenario last year and successfully claimed both credits without any issues! We had solar panels installed in 2022, then added more panels in 2024 along with purchasing a Tesla Model 3. The key thing I learned is that these credits are designed to work together - the government WANTS people to invest in clean energy, so they made sure the credits complement each other rather than conflict. The Residential Clean Energy Credit applies to your solar equipment and installation costs, while the Clean Vehicle Credit applies to your EV purchase. They're completely separate line items on your tax return. One practical tip: when I was organizing my documentation, I created separate folders for each credit with all the relevant paperwork. For solar, I included the installation contract, equipment receipts, and photos of the completed installation. For the EV, I kept the purchase agreement, window sticker showing the battery capacity, and the manufacturer's certification letter. Having everything organized made filing much smoother. Don't let that misinformation from the tax forum discourage you - you're absolutely entitled to both credits if you meet the requirements for each. Good luck with your filing!

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Liam Murphy

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This is such a reassuring thread to read as someone new to these tax credits! I just bought my first EV last month and we're planning to install solar panels in the spring, so I was worried about timing and whether I'd miss out on claiming both credits. Reading everyone's real experiences here makes it clear that the timing doesn't matter as long as both purchases happen in the same tax year. Your tip about organizing documentation in separate folders is really smart - I'm definitely going to set that up from the start rather than scrambling to find everything at tax time. It's amazing how much peace of mind comes from hearing from people who've actually navigated this successfully rather than just reading the confusing IRS forms and publications. Thanks for sharing your experience!

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Amina Diallo

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This whole thread has been a lifesaver! I'm in the exact same boat - we installed solar panels in 2021, bought a Tesla Model Y this year, and are planning to add more solar panels in the next few months. I was panicking after seeing that same forum post about not being able to claim both credits. Reading through everyone's experiences here, it's crystal clear that you CAN absolutely claim both the Residential Clean Energy Credit and the Clean Vehicle Credit in the same year. They're completely separate credits on different forms (5695 vs 8936) and don't interfere with each other at all. What really helped me understand this was seeing multiple people who've actually done it successfully. The government designed these credits to encourage clean energy adoption, so it makes total sense that they'd work together rather than against each other. I'm definitely keeping detailed records for both - separate folders like Camila suggested sounds like a great approach. And staying with married filing jointly since that seems to maximize the benefits. Thanks everyone for sharing your real-world experiences - so much more helpful than trying to decipher IRS publications!

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Rachel Tao

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I'm so glad I found this thread! I was in the exact same position - worried about conflicting credits after reading some misleading information online. It's really reassuring to see so many people who've successfully claimed both credits without any issues. One thing I wanted to add for anyone still reading this - make sure you check the specific requirements for your EV model year since the rules keep changing. I almost missed out on the full credit because I didn't realize there were new battery component restrictions for 2025. Thankfully I caught it in time and confirmed my vehicle still qualifies. The documentation organization tips here are gold too. I'm definitely setting up those separate folders right away rather than scrambling later. It's amazing how much clearer this whole situation becomes when you hear from people who've actually been through the process successfully!

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If your bill is exactly $14k, you might qualify for the IRS "short-term payment plan" where you can get up to 180 days to pay in full without having to pay the setup fee for a regular installment plan. You'll still pay interest but it might save you a little money if you can pull together the full amount within 6 months.

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I went through almost the exact same situation two years ago - owed $13,500 due to a payroll system glitch that stopped withholding federal taxes for several months. The panic is totally understandable, but you have more options than you think! First, definitely file your return on time even if you can't pay the full amount. The failure-to-file penalty is much worse than the failure-to-pay penalty. You can set up an installment agreement online at irs.gov - it's actually pretty straightforward for amounts under $50k. One thing that really helped me was documenting everything about the withholding error. I gathered all my pay stubs, my W-4 forms, and emails with HR. While the IRS won't reduce what you owe because of the error, having this documentation helped when I requested penalty abatement later using Form 843 for "reasonable cause." Also check if you qualify for any credits or deductions you might have missed - I found I was eligible for some education credits that reduced my bill by about $800. Don't let the stress overwhelm you - the IRS deals with this stuff all the time and they'd rather work with you than chase you down!

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Omar Fawaz

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The community consensus here is that cycle codes are actually pretty predictable once you know what to look for. Unlike getting audited or dealing with identity verification, cycle codes are just processing indicators. I've tracked mine for three years now - it's like watching a weather forecast for your refund. Much less stressful than constantly checking WMR, which is about as informative as a magic 8-ball compared to understanding your actual cycle code.

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NebulaNova

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The cycle code breakdown shared here is spot-on! I've been helping fellow taxpayers decode these for years. One thing worth adding - if you're a Schedule C filer like me, look for any TC 971 codes on your transcript too. These indicate additional processing flags that can delay your cycle even if you have a Thursday code. I learned this the hard way when my 20241505 cycle got pushed back 3 weeks due to a Form 8862 review triggered by my home office deduction. The cycle code tells you the intended processing schedule, but additional review codes can override that timing. Always check the full transcript context, not just the cycle number!

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Is my App Store income considered 'Self-Employed' or 'Hobby income' for taxes?

I'm a full-time software engineer and I'm confused about how to report some side income on my taxes. Looking for advice on whether I should classify it as hobby or self-employment. Several years ago I created an app and put it on the Apple App Store for free. I've been paying the $99 annual developer fee every year just to keep it available. Last year (2024), I decided to switch it to a paid app to see if I could at least cover my developer fee. The results were modest - the app generated about $250 in total sales, but after Apple took their 30% commission, I ended up with roughly $175. Now I need to report this on my tax return and I'm not sure which classification makes more sense. If I file as self-employed: - I could deduct the $99 developer fee and other expenses - The intent was technically to make profit when I switched to paid - Would need to maintain Schedule C and deal with that paperwork - Might have to pay self-employment tax on the earnings If I file as hobby income: - Simpler reporting requirements - I don't depend on this income at all - I'm not actively marketing or trying to grow this "business" - Wouldn't be able to deduct my expenses against the income I'm not planning to put significant effort into making the app more profitable - maybe just adjust pricing occasionally. Even if it operates at a loss, that's fine with me since it's mainly just a creative outlet. What's the right way to classify this income? I've gotten conflicting advice and I don't want to trigger any IRS issues down the road. Any help would be appreciated!

Leo McDonald

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Does nobody here realize that if ur income is under $400 from self-employment you dont even have to pay self employment tax?? So all this worry about filing schedule C might be pointless. Also hobby income goes on Schedule 1 line 8 now (used to be "other income" on old forms). But cant deduct expenses so that sucks. Honestly for such a small amount IRS probably wont care either way lol but self employed makes more sense and lets u deduct expenses

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That's not entirely correct. You still need to report the income even if it's under $400. The $400 threshold is just for when you have to pay self-employment tax, but income tax still applies to all income regardless of amount.

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Based on my experience with similar situations, I'd strongly recommend filing as self-employment income on Schedule C. The key indicator here is that you deliberately switched from a free app to a paid app with the intention of generating revenue - that's a clear profit motive, which is the primary factor the IRS considers. A few important points to consider: 1. **Expense deductions**: With self-employment classification, you can deduct your $99 developer fee and other legitimate business expenses, which could potentially reduce your taxable income below the $175 you received. 2. **Documentation**: Keep records of all expenses related to the app (developer fees, any equipment costs, software subscriptions, etc.) to support your business classification. 3. **Consistency**: If you plan to continue this activity in future years, it's better to establish the self-employment classification now rather than switching between hobby and business classifications later. The amount of time you spend on the app or whether it's your primary income source doesn't disqualify it from being a business. Many legitimate small businesses operate exactly as you've described - maintaining an existing product with occasional adjustments. Given the modest income level, the additional complexity of Schedule C is minimal and the ability to deduct expenses likely makes it worthwhile.

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Summer Green

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This is really helpful advice! I'm curious though - if someone switches from hobby to business classification in a later year (like if they decide to start actively marketing their app), does that create any issues with the IRS? Or is it okay to change classification as your situation evolves? I'm asking because I have a similar app situation but I'm genuinely not sure if I'll want to put more effort into it in future years. Don't want to lock myself into the wrong classification now if my intentions might change later.

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