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Has anyone considered the state tax implications? Each state handles entity transitions differently. In California, for example, using an old sole prop bank account for your corp can trigger a "successor liability" issue where your corp could be responsible for any unpaid taxes from the sole prop. On the flip side, in some states incorrectly attributing income to a corporation when it should be on the sole prop could trigger minimum corporate tax requirements you otherwise might have avoided.

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This is a really complex situation that touches on several areas - entity separation, tax compliance, and banking regulations. From what I've seen in similar cases, the key is to act quickly to clean this up before it becomes a bigger problem. First, I'd strongly recommend getting that bank account ownership updated to your corporation ASAP. Most banks will let you do this with the right paperwork (corporate resolution, new signature cards, etc.). This eliminates the appearance that your sole prop is still operating. Second, you need to be very careful about how you're documenting any transfers between accounts. The IRS will want to see clear business purposes for any money movement between entities. If it looks like you're just using them interchangeably, that could jeopardize your corporate status. One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet - make sure you're not accidentally triggering any state franchise tax or minimum tax requirements by keeping the sole prop "active" through bank activity. Some states consider any business banking activity as evidence the entity is still operating, which could create ongoing tax obligations you don't need. I'd also suggest talking to a CPA who specializes in entity transitions. They can help you figure out if you need to file any forms with the IRS to properly document the transfer of assets from your sole prop to the corporation. Getting this documented properly now could save you major headaches if you ever get audited.

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StarStrider

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This is really comprehensive advice! I'm curious about the state franchise tax issue you mentioned - how would someone know if their state considers banking activity as evidence the entity is still operating? Is there a resource to check state-specific rules on this, or do you just have to call each state's tax department individually? I'm dealing with a multi-state situation and want to make sure I'm not creating problems in states where I might not even realize there are ongoing obligations.

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Jacinda Yu

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I just wanted to add my experience to help ease anyone's anxiety about this. I'm a CPA and have been helping clients navigate this exact confusion for months now. The IRS has been gradually rolling out these new portal features throughout 2024, and the "Audit Status" tab is appearing for virtually all users regardless of their actual audit status. The key thing to remember is that the IRS operates on a very structured timeline for audits. They typically have 3 years from your filing date to initiate an audit (with some exceptions), and they MUST send written notice before beginning any examination process. This isn't optional - it's required by law. Since you filed in February, received your refund in March, and haven't received any correspondence, you can be confident you're not under audit. The IRS processes over 150 million individual returns each year, and less than 1% are actually audited. The new portal tabs are just poor user experience design - they should only show relevant information to each taxpayer's situation. If you want peace of mind, keep checking your mail for the next few weeks, but based on everything you've described, you're in the clear!

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Yuki Tanaka

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This is exactly the kind of professional insight that helps so much! As someone who's never dealt with an audit before, knowing that there's actually a legal requirement for written notice makes me feel much more confident. The 3-year timeline is also helpful to understand - I had no idea they had that kind of window. It really does seem like the IRS could save everyone a lot of stress by just making these portal features more targeted to individual situations instead of showing everyone the same confusing tabs. Thanks for breaking down the actual statistics too - less than 1% being audited puts things in much better perspective!

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Natalie Wang

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I completely understand the panic you must have felt seeing that tab! I went through the exact same thing about two months ago and it really threw me for a loop. What helped me was understanding that the IRS has been rolling out these new portal features in waves, and they're appearing for everyone regardless of their actual tax situation. The fact that you already received your refund is actually the most reassuring sign possible. The IRS has automated systems that flag returns for review BEFORE they issue refunds, not after. If there had been any issues with your 2022 return, they would have held your refund while they reviewed it. I ended up calling the IRS (which took forever to get through) and the representative confirmed that these new tabs are part of their system modernization but don't indicate your personal status unless you've received official mail from them. Since you haven't gotten any letters, you're almost certainly not being audited. Try not to stress too much - the new interface is just poorly designed from a user experience standpoint. They really should only show relevant tabs instead of displaying everything to everyone!

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Thank you so much for sharing your experience! It's really comforting to hear from someone who went through the exact same panic. I was literally losing sleep over this when I first saw that tab appear. Your point about the automated systems flagging returns BEFORE refunds makes total sense - I hadn't thought about it that way. It's such a relief to know that getting my refund in March was actually a good sign rather than something to worry about. I really appreciate you taking the time to call the IRS and share what you learned. It sounds like so many of us have been confused by this poorly designed rollout. The IRS definitely needs to work on their user experience - this tab is causing way more anxiety than it should!

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One additional consideration that might be helpful - make sure to review your S-corp election timing and any potential Section 1202 Qualified Small Business Stock (QSBS) benefits. If your LLC made the S-corp election early enough and you've held your interest for at least 5 years, you might qualify for the QSBS exclusion which could eliminate federal taxes on up to $10 million of the gain (or 10x your basis, whichever is greater). This would be even better than just avoiding the 3.8% NIIT - it could potentially eliminate the entire federal capital gains tax on your $875K gain. The QSBS rules are complex and have specific requirements around when the election was made, the type of business, and how the stock was acquired, but it's definitely worth having your accountant review this when they return. Also, since you mentioned multiple owners, each owner can potentially claim their own $10M QSBS exclusion, so the total benefit for your group could be substantial. This is one of those situations where the entity structure (LLC electing S-corp treatment) might actually work in your favor for tax planning purposes.

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This is excellent advice about QSBS! I hadn't even considered this possibility. Since we started the business in 2018 and made the S-corp election pretty early on, we might actually qualify for the 5-year holding period requirement by the time of sale. The potential to exclude the entire $875K from federal capital gains tax would be incredible - that could save me around $131K in federal taxes (15% or 20% capital gains rate) plus avoid the 3.8% NIIT entirely. Even if we only partially qualify, any QSBS exclusion would be huge. I'm definitely going to have my accountant dive deep into this when they get back. Do you know if there are any specific documentation requirements we should be gathering now to support a QSBS claim? I want to make sure we have everything ready since the sale timeline is tight.

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For QSBS documentation, you'll want to gather several key items before your accountant returns: **Essential QSBS Documentation:** - Your LLC operating agreement and all amendments - The S-corp election form (Form 2553) and the date it was filed - Documentation showing when you acquired your ownership interest (original investment records, partnership agreements, etc.) - Business formation documents (Articles of Organization, EIN application) - Financial records showing the business had gross assets under $50M when you acquired your interest and when the S-corp election was made **Business Activity Verification:** - Records showing the business qualifies as an "active business" (not just passive investments) - Documentation that it's not in an excluded industry (hotels, restaurants, farms, mining, etc.) - Financial statements or tax returns showing business operations **Timing Documentation:** - Any stock certificates or membership interest documentation with dates - Capital contribution records with timestamps - Bank records showing when investments were made The 5-year holding period is calculated from when you first acquired the interest, not from the S-corp election date, so if you were a founding member in 2018, you're likely well past the 5-year requirement by now. Given the potential tax savings, it's worth having your accountant expedite this analysis even if it means paying for rush service. The QSBS exclusion could dwarf any costs associated with getting professional guidance quickly.

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Harper Hill

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Looking at your situation, you're in a really strong position to avoid the 3.8% NIIT on your $875K gain. Since you've been actively involved in running the business since 2018, you almost certainly meet the material participation requirements that exempt you from NIIT. A few key points based on the great discussion above: **Material Participation** - With 6+ years of active involvement, you likely qualify under multiple tests (500+ hours annually, substantially all participation, or the 5-of-10 years test). The LLC/S-corp structure doesn't change this fundamental exemption. **Documentation Priority** - Start gathering evidence of your participation NOW: emails showing business decisions, calendar entries, meeting minutes, travel records, contracts you signed, etc. Even without perfect hour logs, multiple types of evidence showing consistent involvement will be convincing. **QSBS Potential** - This could be huge! If your LLC made the S-corp election early and you've held your interest since 2018, you might qualify for Section 1202 QSBS exclusion. This could eliminate federal taxes on your entire $875K gain (not just the 3.8% NIIT). Given the potential $131K+ in tax savings, consider having your accountant prioritize this analysis even if they're on vacation. **Next Steps** - Gather all formation documents, S-corp election paperwork, and ownership records. Document your business activities timeline. If QSBS doesn't apply, the material participation exemption alone should save you about $33K in NIIT. With the sale in 6 weeks, time is critical but you have multiple strong paths to significant tax savings. This is definitely worth expediting professional review!

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This is such a comprehensive summary - thank you! I'm feeling much more confident about avoiding the NIIT now. I've already started gathering documentation and found tons of emails, calendar entries, and meeting records that clearly show my active involvement throughout the years. One quick follow-up question: If we do qualify for QSBS treatment, does that completely eliminate both federal capital gains tax AND the NIIT, or would there still be some portion subject to regular capital gains rates? With multiple owners potentially each claiming their own $10M exclusion, I want to make sure I understand how this stacks with the material participation exemption. I'm definitely going to contact my accountant tomorrow to see if they can prioritize this analysis remotely. The potential savings are too significant to wait, especially with the tight timeline. Thanks again to everyone who contributed - this community has been incredibly helpful!

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Ok so here's my actual timeline from last year when I had to verify ID for state (North Carolina): - Filed Feb 10 - Got letter requesting verification March 15 - Sent docs March 20 - Called April 25 (couldn't get through) - Finally got through May 2 (used claimyr.com after wasting days trying to call) - Was told docs were received and being processed - Refund deposited May 12 So about 7.5 weeks total from sending docs to getting money.

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This is super helpful, thank you! At least now I have a realistic timeline to expect.

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I'm going through the exact same thing right now! Filed in early February, federal came through fine but state is doing the whole ID verification dance. The uncertainty is killing me - I keep checking the status tracker obsessively even though it never changes. Reading through everyone's experiences here, it sounds like Michigan can be pretty slow with this stuff. I'm trying to stay patient but it's hard when you're counting on that money. At least we're not alone in this frustrating process! Hopefully both our refunds come through soon. Keep us posted on how it goes for you!

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Has anyone filed a Form 709 electronically? When I go through TurboTax or H&R Block software, they seem to handle income tax returns but not gift tax returns. Am I missing something, or do these forms still need to be filed on paper?

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Malia Ponder

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Unfortunately, Form 709 cannot be e-filed yet. I just completed mine last month for a similar situation, and it has to be filed on paper. I was surprised too, since almost everything else can be done electronically now! Make sure to send it via certified mail so you have proof of timely filing. Also, don't attach it to your Form 1040 (income tax return) - it needs to be mailed separately to the specific address for gift tax returns.

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Great question about Form 709! I went through this exact situation last year when I sold my townhouse to my nephew for $180k when it was worth $420k. One crucial detail that hasn't been mentioned yet - make sure you understand the timing requirements. Form 709 is due by April 15th of the year following the gift (so April 15, 2025 for your 2024 transaction). However, if you request an extension for your income tax return, it automatically extends your Form 709 deadline to October 15th. Also, since your gift amount ($405k) exceeds the 2024 annual exclusion of $18,000, you'll definitely need to file Form 709 even if you don't owe any gift tax due to the lifetime exemption. The IRS wants to track these large gifts against your lifetime exclusion amount. One more tip - if this is your first Form 709, make sure to include a clear cover letter explaining the transaction. The IRS appreciates transparency, and it can help avoid follow-up questions later.

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Rajiv Kumar

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Thank you for mentioning the timing requirements! I had no idea about the automatic extension if you extend your income tax return. That's really helpful since I'm still gathering all my documentation. Quick question about the cover letter - what specific details should I include? Should I explain the family relationship, the reason for the below-market sale, and how I calculated the FMV? I want to be thorough but not overwhelm them with unnecessary information. Also, does anyone know if there's a specific format the IRS prefers for the cover letter, or is a simple business letter format sufficient?

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