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I received my refund on April 2nd after seeing code 846 appear on my transcript on March 29th. The date next to code 846 was April 2nd, so it was exactly accurate. Before that, I had code 570 (hold) dated March 18th and code 971 (notice) dated March 18th as well. The entire process from filing (February 15th) to refund took 47 days total. The transcript updates were the only reliable indicator - WMR was stuck on the first bar until about 3 days before I received the money.
OMG I was SO LOST with transcripts last year!! π« I literally printed mine out and highlighted all the codes, then googled each one. What a nightmare! This year I finally figured it out - code 846 is the magic number! When I saw that appear with a date of 3/27/2024, my refund hit my account exactly on that date. Such a relief! Don't waste time with the WMR tool, transcripts are way more accurate even though they look intimidating at first.
Code 424 is common. Not always bad. Sometimes random selection. Sometimes specific triggers. Check for notice CP05. Keep documentation ready. Most resolve without contact. Average delay: 30 days. Don't panic unless you get 420 code. That's different. That's full audit. 424 is just verification. Patience helps.
I got the 424 code on March 2nd last year, and I was really worried because I had a big trip planned that depended on that refund money. I kept checking my transcript every single day - sometimes twice! The code disappeared after 12 days, and my refund was deposited exactly 8 days later. So for me, it added about 20 days to the whole process. Has your 'as of' date changed at all since the code appeared? That was the first sign things were moving again for me.
Have you tried these steps to troubleshoot? 1. Clear your browser cache and cookies 2. Try accessing your account from a different browser 3. Check if you're logged into the correct IRS online account (sometimes people have multiple accounts) 4. Verify the notification you received is actually from the IRS and not a phishing attempt 5. Try accessing the IP PIN section directly through the IRS main page rather than through any links in emails Just curious - how did you receive notification that they issued the PIN? Was it by email, physical mail, or through your online account message center?
This happens more often than you'd think. Here's what you need to know: β’ IP PINs typically take 2-3 business days to appear online β’ Peak tax season (now) can extend this to 3-5 days β’ The notification system and the online display system are separate β’ If you need it urgently, calling is your best option β’ Weekend days don't count as business days for IRS systems I'd give it until at least Friday before worrying too much about it.
Is anyone else skeptical about these third-party services? It's like giving your car keys to a stranger just because they promise to park faster. Couldn't these services just be collecting our information? The IRS already has enough of my data without me voluntarily handing more to random websites...
Tbh I get the concern, but there's a huge diff between services that ask for your personal info vs ones that just help navigate systems. Claimyr doesn't need your SSN or anything - it just helps you skip the phone tree. And taxr.ai just helps interpret codes that are already on your transcript - you don't upload sensitive docs. I was super hesitant too until I realized they're just tools, kinda like using Waze instead of regular maps. They don't need your destination, just help you navigate the traffic.
I worked at a tax prep office for 6 years and saw this issue frequently. Have you had refunds deposited to this Chime account before? In my experience, if you've successfully received tax refunds to this account in previous years (even individual returns), Chime is more likely to accept a joint refund deposit. First-time deposits seem to trigger more scrutiny.
This matches what I've observed too. The ACH system uses account validation protocols that flag "first-time" government deposits differently than recurring ones. I've had clients with Chime, Cash App, and similar fintech accounts have different experiences based on their account history.
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I've had my Chime account for about 3 years now and have gotten my individual refunds there with no problems. This year was my first joint return with my husband and it went through fine - $4,200 deposited exactly 18 days after filing. Maybe having that history with the account helped? Just sharing in case it helps others predict their situation.
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Additional info that might help others: β’ Chime's policy can vary based on account age and history β’ Some users report success, others rejection β’ Paper check is the safest option if you're uncertain β’ Adding spouse to account before filing is ideal β’ If rejected, expect 6-8 weeks for paper check reissue So relieved I found this thread before filing our taxes! Was about to use my solo Chime account too.
Cash App worked for me too. Got money fast. No problems. Better than bank last year. Will use again next time. Easy setup. Just needed routing number and account info.
If you're filing this late in the season, consider requesting a paper check if you're concerned about direct deposit issues. While it takes exactly 7-10 days longer on average, I've found it has a 99.8% success rate compared to the 97.3% success rate for direct deposits (based on my experience helping 42 family and community members with their taxes over the past 3 years). Just an alternative option if you're worried about banking verification delays.
Isn't it frustrating how different everyone's timeline seems to be? I've been tracking patterns in these forums for months now, and it seems like verification-to-update time is averaging about 9-12 business days this tax season. Have you considered that your divorce situation might be causing additional review? If you filed as married in previous years but single this year, that sometimes triggers additional verification even after the in-person ID check.
I went through a divorce last year and had the exact same issue! Filed as single after years of married filing jointly, and they flagged my return for additional verification. Even after the in-person verification, it took another 3 weeks because they were comparing my new filing status against previous years. Hang in there!
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Did you file with head of household status? Or single? Makes a difference. HOH gets more scrutiny. Can trigger additional review. Might explain longer wait times.
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According to my records from assisting clients, verification completion dates and transcript update dates follow a specific pattern. For verifications completed between March 1-15, 2024, updates appeared within 8-10 business days. For verifications completed between March 16-31, 2024, updates took 12-14 business days. For April verifications (like yours), we're currently seeing 14-16 business day processing times due to increased seasonal volume.
I think there might be some misunderstanding about how the banking system works. ACH credits (deposits) and debits (payments) operate on different timelines by design, not because banks are being difficult. The Federal Reserve processes these transactions in batches at scheduled times throughout the day. Most banks actually front the money for debits before they receive it, taking on temporary risk, which is why those seem instant. They generally won't do this for government deposits due to regulatory requirements. It's not that they can't process quickly - it's that they're following different protocols for different transaction types.
Wells Fargo customer here. Same thing happened. No pending deposit. Money appeared 5:30am on DDD. No advance notice. Happens every year. Don't panic.
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I've researched this extensively on r/tax and other forums. There's a significant difference between how banks handle ACH transfers from private entities versus government disbursements. According to the Nacha.org guidelines, financial institutions have different processing requirements for government ACH codes. Many people report seeing nothing pending the night before, then finding funds available early morning of their DDD. I'm skeptical of customer service reps who make definitive statements about "always" receiving advance notice.
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I've seen this pattern repeat every tax season for the past decade. In my experience working with various financial institutions, Wells Fargo specifically tends to not show pending deposits from the IRS until very early morning of the actual deposit date. I recall back in 2019 when I helped several clients with similar concerns - in every case, the money appeared on the DDD despite no pending notification. The IRS batch processing typically runs overnight between 12am-4am, and Wells Fargo's system updates around 3am-6am Eastern. If your transcript shows a valid 846 code with tomorrow's date, I'd recommend checking your account early tomorrow rather than worrying tonight.
EVERYONE NEEDS TO MARK THEIR CALENDARS FOR THE 21-DAY MARK! This is way more important than most people realize. Last year I waited 42 days when I could have called at 21 and resolved my issue in one day. This year I'm calling exactly on day 22 if I don't see movement. Compared to state returns, which often process in 7-10 days, the IRS timeline is painfully slow. Don't let them make you wait longer than necessary!
Just to clarify for anyone else reading this thread - the 21-day timeframe the TA mentioned is specifically for the "Where's My Refund" tool guidance. According to Publication 5344, the IRS advises taxpayers to wait this period before inquiring about refund status. I'm a bit concerned because my Cycle Code on my transcript hasn't updated yet either.
Carmella Fromis
In my experience, most banks typically do not release funds before the actual DDD, though there might be some exceptions. Credit unions sometimes process a day early, but major banks generally stick to the exact date or possibly the next business day. I would suggest possibly calling your bank to ask about their specific policy regarding IRS direct deposits, as this could potentially give you more clarity about your situation.
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Ellie Simpson
According to Internal Revenue Manual 21.4.1.4.7, the DDD is the date the IRS schedules the funds to be released to your financial institution. I received mine exactly on the DDD last year, not before. I'm relieved to finally understand the timing now.
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Arjun Kurti
Most financial institutions adhere to ACH processing timelines regardless of the source being the IRS. The deposit will post during your bank's next processing cycle after receipt.
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RaΓΊl Mora
Just checked the IRS refund discussion forum at igotmyrefund.com and most people with 5/3 DDDs are reporting they haven't received deposits yet. According to the patterns there, about 15% of people get deposits a day early, 75% get them on the exact DDD, and 10% get them a day late. Your bank matters a lot - online banks like Chime tend to release early while traditional banks like Wells Fargo stick exactly to the DDD. Hope this helps!
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