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Ravi Sharma

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FYI - sometimes "SR" can mean "Supplemental Rate" too. When I worked at my last job, I had regular medical coverage plus a supplemental critical illness policy, and it showed up exactly like this. "Medical EE" was the base plan and "SR" was the add-on. Worth checking if you have multiple types of coverage.

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Freya Larsen

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I think it varies by company too. At my previous job, "SR" meant "Self + Room/Boarder" because I had a domestic partner on my insurance who wasn't legally a spouse. So many different systems all using the same abbreviations for different things!

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Jamal Carter

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This thread has been super helpful! I work in benefits administration and can confirm that payroll codes are unfortunately not standardized across companies. "Medical EE - SR" could mean several different things depending on your employer's system: - Employee - Standard Rate (most common) - Employee - Senior Rate (age-based pricing) - Employee - Spouse Rate (family coverage) - Employee - Supplemental Rate (additional coverage) The best approach is definitely to check with your HR department first, as they'll have the specific definitions for your company's codes. If you can't get clear answers there, your insurance card usually has a member services number that can help explain what coverage you're actually paying for. One tip: if you're budgeting, remember that most medical insurance premiums are deducted pre-tax, which reduces your taxable income. So while you see the deduction on your gross pay, it's actually saving you money on taxes compared to paying the same amount out-of-pocket after taxes.

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Thanks for the professional insight! That's really helpful to know there's no standard across companies. I'm curious - when you say "pre-tax," does that mean I should expect to see a smaller tax withholding on my check compared to if I didn't have this deduction? I've been wondering if the medical deductions are actually saving me money or just moving it around differently.

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Freya Thomsen

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I'm experiencing this exact same issue right now! Filed on February 15th and it's been 3 weeks with WMR showing "being processed" but my transcript still says no record of return filed. Reading through everyone's experiences here is actually really reassuring - sounds like this is way more common than I realized. @Omar Fawaz mentioned the 17-21 day average for transcript population, so I guess I'm right in that window. @Zara Ahmed's point about checking mail carefully is noted - I'll definitely be watching for any letters. Thanks everyone for sharing your timelines, it helps to know this isn't unusual!

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Amy Fleming

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Welcome to the waiting game club! 😊 I'm dealing with the same thing right now - filed around the same time as you and my transcript is still showing zilch. It's oddly comforting to see so many people going through this exact scenario. The technical explanations from @Omar Fawaz and @Anastasia Sokolov about the different IRS systems really help explain why this happens. I m going'to follow @Zara Ahmed s advice and'keep a close eye on my mailbox while I wait it out. Here s hoping we'both see our transcripts populate soon!

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I'm currently experiencing this same discrepancy and it's reassuring to see so many others dealing with identical situations. Filed on February 28th and now on day 9 with WMR showing "being processed" while my transcript remains completely blank. After reading through all these experiences, it sounds like this is actually standard operating procedure during busy filing periods rather than something to worry about. The technical breakdown from @Omar Fawaz about the 3 separate IRS systems not synchronizing simultaneously really helps explain what's happening behind the scenes. I'm planning to wait out the full 21-day window before taking any action, and definitely keeping an eye on my mail as @Zara Ahmed suggested. Has anyone noticed if certain types of returns (simple vs. complex) seem to experience this delay more frequently?

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Hannah White

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I actually had this exact issue with a /ES futures spread last year. The trick is to reverse how you think about the short position. For Form 6781: 1. For the short position: Put the amount you RECEIVED when opening the position as the PROCEEDS, and the amount you PAID to close it as the COST. 2. For the long position: Put the amount you PAID when opening as the COST, and the amount you RECEIVED when closing as the PROCEEDS. This way both will calculate correctly - the long showing a gain and the short showing a loss.

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This is super helpful! Quick question though - for the portion that was marked-to-market at year end but not actually closed, do you still report it this way? And then do you have a second entry for when you actually closed the position the following year?

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Yes, for positions marked-to-market at year end but not actually closed, you need two separate entries. First entry: treat it as if you closed on Dec 31 at fair market value - for the short position, use the Dec 31 value as your "cost" and the original amount received as "proceeds." Second entry: for the actual closing in the following year, your new "cost basis" becomes that Dec 31 fair market value, and your "proceeds" are what you actually received when closing. So if you held a short put past year end, you'd have one Form 6781 entry showing the deemed close on Dec 31, and then when you file next year's taxes, another entry showing the actual close using the Dec 31 value as your starting point. This ensures each tax year captures the correct portion of the gain/loss.

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I ran into this exact same issue with SPX spreads last year and it was incredibly frustrating until I figured out the correct approach. The key insight that finally made it click for me was understanding that for short positions on Form 6781, you're essentially reporting a "reverse transaction" - what you received becomes proceeds, what you paid becomes cost. For your specific situation with the SPX put spread: - Short 4950 put: Proceeds = amount you received when opening the short position, Cost = amount you paid to close it (resulting in your $320 loss) - Long 4850 put: Cost = amount you paid when opening, Proceeds = amount you received when closing (resulting in your $215 gain) The mark-to-market rule is crucial here. Since you held these past December 31st, you need to report the "deemed sale" at fair market value on Dec 31 for this tax year's return. Then when you file next year, you'll report the actual closing transactions using the Dec 31 values as your new basis. Most tax software struggles with this, but the underlying tax treatment is straightforward once you understand the mechanics. The 60/40 split applies to each leg separately, so you'll get the favorable tax treatment on both the gain and loss portions.

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Kai Santiago

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This is exactly the clarification I needed! I was getting so confused trying to think of the short position in normal terms. Your explanation about it being a "reverse transaction" really makes it click - what I received when opening the short becomes the proceeds, and what I paid to close it becomes the cost basis. One follow-up question though - when you say I need to report the "deemed sale" at fair market value on Dec 31, how do I find that fair market value if my broker doesn't provide it in their year-end statements? The SPX options market was closed on Dec 31 since it was a weekend this past year. Do I use the last trading day value (Dec 29) or is there another method the IRS expects for determining that fair market value? Also, just to make sure I understand the timing correctly - this year's return shows the deemed sale using Dec 31 values, and next year's return will show the actual closing transactions using those same Dec 31 values as the starting basis, right?

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This is such a frustrating situation, and I really feel for you! I've seen this happen more often lately - some clients seem to think they can just redact their tax ID and avoid their obligations. One thing that might help is sending your client a formal written request (email is fine) explaining that providing their EIN/SSN on the 1099 is a legal requirement under IRS regulations, not a courtesy. Sometimes putting it in writing makes them realize this isn't negotiable. You could mention that failure to provide complete tax information can result in penalties for them. If they still refuse, definitely go with Form 4852 as others have suggested. Make sure to keep documentation of all your attempts to get the proper information - screenshots of emails, notes from phone calls, etc. The IRS wants to see you made a good faith effort to obtain the correct information. Also consider whether this client is worth the headache for future work. Anyone who creates tax compliance issues for their contractors is probably going to cause other problems down the line. You deserve to work with people who handle their business responsibilities properly.

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CyberSiren

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This is really solid advice, especially about documenting everything! I'm dealing with a similar situation right now where a client is being evasive about providing their EIN. I hadn't thought about sending a formal written request explaining the legal requirements - that's a great approach that might make them take it more seriously. The point about keeping screenshots and call notes is crucial too. I've been pretty informal about tracking my communications, but if I end up having to file Form 4852, having that paper trail will definitely help show I did my due diligence. Thanks for sharing this perspective!

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Lilah Brooks

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I'm actually dealing with something very similar right now with a client who's being super sketchy about providing their EIN. It's so frustrating because you're just trying to follow the law and file your taxes correctly! One approach I haven't seen mentioned yet is reaching out to your state's Department of Revenue or Business Registration office. If you have the company name and address, sometimes you can look up their business registration and get their EIN that way. Not all states make this information publicly available, but it's worth checking. Also, if this client has a business license or is registered as an LLC/corporation, that information might be searchable in public business databases. I've had some luck finding EINs this way when clients were being uncooperative. The Form 4852 route definitely seems like the safest backup plan though. Better to document everything properly than risk issues with the IRS later. And honestly, any client who creates this kind of tax headache probably isn't worth keeping for future projects.

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I might be able to provide some possibly relevant information from my own experience. My return was accepted on 2/12, and I received my deposit yesterday, which was approximately 4-5 days earlier than I had initially anticipated based on previous years. It seems that, at least in some cases, the IRS might be processing certain batches of returns somewhat more efficiently this year. Your results may vary, of course, depending on your specific tax situation and banking institution.

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Thanks for sharing your experiences, everyone! As someone who also filed on 2/12, this thread has been really helpful. I'm still waiting for my refund but feeling more optimistic after reading about others getting theirs early. Quick question - for those who received early deposits, did you use direct deposit or are you waiting for a paper check? I'm wondering if the payment method affects the timeline. Also, has anyone noticed if certain banks seem to release funds faster than others? I bank with a credit union and curious if that might impact when I see my deposit.

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