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Have you tried contacting your congressional representative? I know it sounds weird but my sister was waiting FOREVER for her refund last year (like 5 months) and nothing worked. She finally reached out to her congressional rep's office and they have staff specifically for helping constituents with federal agency issues. She emailed her congressman's office with details about her situation, and they reached out to their IRS liaison. She got a call from the IRS within a week and her refund was processed shortly after. Worth a try if everything else fails!
This actually works! I did this last year when the IRS lost my amended return. Called my representative's local office, filled out a release form, and had someone from the IRS Taxpayer Advocate office call me within 48 hours. They have special channels regular people don't have access to.
I went through this exact nightmare last year! After trying all the traditional routes (calling 800-829-1040 at 7am, using the "form questions" trick, etc.) with no success, I finally got through using a combination of strategies. What ended up working for me was calling the Practitioner Priority Service line at 866-860-4259. This is technically for tax professionals, but if you explain that you're calling on behalf of yourself and have been unable to reach anyone through normal channels, they'll sometimes help individual taxpayers. I got through in about 45 minutes compared to never getting through on the main line. Also, make sure you have your Account Transcript from the IRS website before calling - it has codes that can tell you exactly why your refund is delayed. Go to irs.gov, create an account, and request your Account Transcript. Look for codes like 570 (additional review needed) or 971 (notice issued). Having these codes ready when you finally talk to someone will save a lot of time. The medical bills situation definitely qualifies you for Taxpayer Advocate Service help too - definitely try that route as others have suggested. They're much more responsive to hardship cases.
This is incredibly helpful, thank you! I had no idea about the Practitioner Priority Service line - that's exactly the kind of "insider" info I was hoping to find. Quick question though - when you say "calling on behalf of yourself," do you need to have any kind of documentation or just explain the situation? Also, what specific Account Transcript codes should I be most worried about seeing? I'm going to try pulling mine right now before attempting any calls.
One important detail nobody's mentioned yet: if your refund is being offset, you should receive a notice from the Bureau of the Fiscal Service (BFS) explaining which agency is receiving the money and their contact information. This notice typically arrives AFTER the offset has occurred, which is why checking your transcript is so important. Did you receive any correspondence from the IRS or BFS about potential offsets before filing?
According to 31 CFR ยง 285.5(d)(6)(ii), the creditor agency is required to send you a notice at least 60 days before the offset occurs, including the type and amount of the debt and your appeal rights. However, this applies to the initial notification when your debt first enters the TOP system, not necessarily each time a tax refund is intercepted. If you've moved since the debt occurred, you may never have received this notice.
IMPORTANT TIMING ISSUE: If you identify an offset on your transcript but believe it's incorrect, you have only 65 days from the date of the offset notice to request a review! Don't wait to take action if you see those codes appear. The TC 898 date starts your clock for disputing the offset even if you haven't received the official letter yet.
If you're planning for medical expenses and worried about offsets, I'd recommend checking multiple sources before counting on your refund money. Start with calling the Treasury Offset Program at 800-304-3107 (as Ava mentioned) - it's automated and quick. Then pull your transcript from irs.gov to look for those TC 898 codes. I learned the hard way last year that even if everything looks normal initially, offset codes can appear later in the process. For medical planning, it's better to assume the worst case scenario until you actually see the money in your account. The stress of unexpected financial changes when dealing with medical issues is awful - been there myself.
Just wanted to share my experience this tax season with the whole TurboTax/TPG/Santa Barbara Bank & Trust situation. I e-filed through TurboTax on February 10th and opted to have my fees taken out of my refund. My return was accepted the same day, and the IRS 'Where's My Refund' tool showed approved on February 22nd with a direct deposit date of February 27th. Here's where things got interesting. The money didn't hit my account on the 27th. I remembered from previous years that when you choose to have fees taken out, your refund actually goes through TPG (Tax Products Group) which is handled by Santa Barbara Bank & Trust first before coming to you. I checked the TPG website (https://taxpayer.sbtpg.com/) and saw my refund was received from the IRS but was still showing as "pending" for almost 3 days after the IRS deposit date. Last year, it only took them about 24 hours to process and send to my bank. Anyone else experiencing delays with TPG this year? I'm wondering if this is normal for the 2024 tax season or if I should be concerned. The house payment is due next week, and I was counting on this refund to cover part of it.
For anyone trying to check their refund status through TPG: โข Go to https://taxpayer.sbtpg.com/ โข You'll need your SSN, filing status, and refund amount โข The "Payment Status" section shows where your money is in their process โข "Pending" means they received it but haven't processed it yet โข "Funded" means they've sent it to your bank Also, be aware that some banks hold deposits for 24-48 hours after receiving them, so there could be additional delay on your bank's end too.
Thanks for sharing your experience, Rita! I'm dealing with the exact same situation right now. Filed on February 8th, accepted same day, IRS approved on February 25th with a deposit date of March 3rd. It's now March 9th and still showing "pending" on the TPG site. What's really annoying is that nowhere during the TurboTax filing process do they clearly explain that choosing to pay fees from your refund means your money goes through this third-party processor first. They make it sound like a simple convenience fee, not a potential week+ delay in getting your money. I called my bank to make sure it wasn't an issue on their end, and they confirmed they haven't received anything yet. So it's definitely stuck in TPG limbo. Really hoping it processes this week because like you, I have bills coming up that I was counting on this refund for. The stress of not knowing when it'll actually arrive is the worst part!
Does anyone know if theres a diff between "exemptions" and "allowances"? My hr dept still uses an old form that says exemptions but everyones talking about allowances and the new W4... so confused right now lol.
They used to be similar concepts but slightly different things. Exemptions referred to the personal exemptions you could claim on your tax return (for yourself, spouse, dependents), while allowances on the old W-4 affected how much was withheld from your paycheck. Since 2018, personal exemptions were eliminated from tax returns by the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. Then in 2020, the W-4 form was redesigned to remove allowances entirely. Now the W-4 asks more direct questions about multiple jobs, dependents, and additional income. If your company is still using forms with "exemptions," they're using outdated terminology. You might want to ask HR if they have the current W-4 form available.
Hey Everett! I was in almost the exact same situation last year - 24, single, making around $45k. The confusion is totally understandable since they changed everything recently. Here's what I learned: forget about "exemptions" - that's old terminology. The current W-4 (redesigned in 2020) doesn't use allowances or exemptions anymore. Instead, it asks specific questions about your situation. For someone like you (single, one job, $42k), you'd typically just fill out Steps 1 (personal info) and 5 (signature). That's it. This gives you standard withholding that should get you close to breaking even at tax time. If you want to factor in your student loan interest deduction, you could add that estimated amount in Step 4(b) "Deductions" to reduce your withholding slightly and get a bit more in each paycheck. The key is finding the sweet spot where you don't owe much or get a huge refund. At your income level, even a $1,500 refund means you're missing out on $125/month that could go toward paying down those student loans faster. But you also don't want to owe more than you can handle come April. I'd recommend starting with the basic form (just Steps 1 and 5) and see how your first few paystubs look, then adjust if needed.
This is really helpful advice! I'm in a similar boat as the original poster - just started my first "real" job out of college and was completely lost on the W-4. The fact that they got rid of the exemption numbers makes so much more sense now. Quick question though - you mentioned putting student loan interest in Step 4(b). How do you estimate that if you don't know exactly how much interest you'll pay for the whole year? Do you just use last year's amount or try to calculate it somehow?
Chloe Davis
Grant's advice on business structures saved me about $22k in taxes last year. But you need to understand he's not giving advice for regular people. His strategies work when you: 1) Have multiple income streams 2) Own significant real estate 3) Have a legitimate business 4) Can afford good tax professionals I implemented his advice about S-Corps and pass-through entities after making about $380k/year, and it was worth it. Below that? Probably not worth the complexity and annual costs.
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AstroAlpha
โขDid you actually watch his paid courses or just the free YouTube stuff? Wondering if the paid content has more actionable advice than what he shares publicly.
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Mateo Sanchez
I've been following this conversation and wanted to add my perspective as someone who's implemented some of Cardone's strategies. The key thing people miss is that his advice isn't meant to be copied exactly - it's meant to show you what's possible at different income levels. I started with basic strategies when I was making $150k (maxing retirement accounts, proper business expense tracking) and gradually added more sophisticated approaches as my income grew. Now at $450k annually, I use some of his entity structuring advice, but I had to modify it significantly for my situation. The biggest mistake I see people make is jumping straight to the complex stuff without building the foundation first. Start with legitimate basics: proper bookkeeping, maxing tax-advantaged accounts, and understanding what actually qualifies as business expenses. Then layer on more advanced strategies as your income and business complexity justify it. Also, never implement tax strategies without running them by a qualified CPA who knows your specific situation. Cardone's advice is educational, but it's not personalized tax advice.
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Luca Romano
โขThis is exactly the balanced approach I was looking for! I've been making around $180k from my digital marketing agency and was getting overwhelmed trying to figure out which of Cardone's strategies actually applied to me. Your point about building the foundation first makes so much sense. I think I've been guilty of trying to jump to the fancy stuff without even having my basic bookkeeping properly organized. Do you have any recommendations for what order to tackle things in? Like should I focus on getting an S-Corp election done first, or is there other foundational stuff that's more important at my income level? Also curious - when you say you had to modify his entity structuring advice, what kind of changes did you typically need to make for your specific situation?
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