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Sofia Morales

Missed Deadline for Recharacterizing Roth IRA Contributions After Exceeding MAGI Limit - What Now?

I'm in a bit of a mess with my Roth IRA and could use some advice. Last year (2023) I contributed the full amount to my Roth IRA, but I just realized my income went over the MAGI limit for 2023. I already filed my taxes back in March of this year. After doing some research, I tried to fix this by recharacterizing my contributions to a traditional IRA and then converting it back to a Roth using the backdoor method. But then I read that recharacterizations need to be done by the tax filing deadline. I did mine in May 2024, so I missed the deadline (and I didn't file for an extension). Now I'm confused about my next steps. I'm guessing I'll owe a penalty for overcontributing. When I did the recharacterization, I had about $600 in gains. Do I need to file an amended return now, or is this something I report on my 2024 taxes? And when will the penalty be assessed? Also, is my recharacterization and backdoor Roth conversion still valid even though I missed the deadline? Does the tax filing deadline only matter for avoiding penalties? Do I need to go back and report anything about the recharacterization and conversion to the IRS for 2023? Sorry for all the questions - I'm pretty stressed about messing this up!

StarSailor

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You've got yourself in a common situation, but there are clear steps to resolve it. First, your recharacterization is still valid even though it was after the deadline. The deadline primarily relates to avoiding the 6% excess contribution penalty, which unfortunately you'll likely owe since you missed it. For the $600 in earnings, those should've been included in your income for 2023, but since you already filed, you'll need to file an amended return (Form 1040-X) to report those earnings. The 6% penalty applies to the excess contribution amount (not including earnings) and is reported on Form 5329. Regarding your backdoor Roth conversion, that's completely valid. The conversion itself is a 2024 event, so you'll report it on your 2024 taxes. You'll receive a 1099-R showing the distribution from the traditional IRA and another showing the conversion to the Roth. Going forward, you'll need to file the amended 2023 return with Form 5329 to pay the penalty on the excess contributions, and then report the conversion normally on your 2024 taxes.

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Dmitry Ivanov

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How does the IRS even know if someone contributed too much to a Roth IRA? Do they automatically flag this or do they rely on self-reporting? Just curious how they'd catch this if someone didn't realize it.

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StarSailor

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The IRS receives information returns from financial institutions reporting your contributions. Form 5498 reports IRA contributions to both you and the IRS. They cross-reference these against your tax return and income levels to identify discrepancies. They also have automated systems that flag accounts where contributions exceed limits or where high-income taxpayers make Roth contributions. While not every case gets caught immediately, their systems are increasingly sophisticated at detecting these issues.

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Ava Garcia

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After dealing with a similar situation last year, I found https://taxr.ai incredibly helpful. I uploaded my 1099s and Form 5498 statements, and it automatically flagged my Roth IRA contribution issue before I filed. It analyzes your tax documents and spots these kinds of problems that are easy to miss. For your situation, I'd upload your Form 5498 showing the original contribution and any statements showing the recharacterization. The tool will confirm exactly what forms you need to file and calculate any potential penalties. It can even help draft the letter explanation for your amended return.

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Miguel Silva

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Does taxr.ai actually help with preparing the amended return itself? Or does it just tell you what went wrong? I've got a similar situation but with 401k over-contributions.

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Zainab Ismail

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I'm skeptical of using these tools for complex IRA issues. How accurate is it really for identifying timing problems like missed deadlines? Most software I've tried doesn't handle edge cases well.

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Ava Garcia

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It doesn't prepare the amended return for you, but it gives you a detailed report explaining exactly what happened, why it's an issue, and the specific forms you need to include. It showed me exactly how to complete Form 5329 for the excess contribution penalty and gave me the exact figures to include. For timing issues and deadlines, it's actually quite good. It detects transaction dates from your statements and compares them to relevant deadlines. In my case, it correctly identified that my recharacterization was processed just four days before the deadline and explained the consequences if it had been later.

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Miguel Silva

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Just wanted to update since I tried taxr.ai after seeing the recommendation here. Uploaded my statements and it immediately identified my Roth contribution issue! It showed me exactly how to handle the recharacterization on my taxes and calculated my potential excess contribution penalty. The analysis explained that I needed to file Form 5329 and walked me through completing it. It also clarified how to report the conversion on next year's taxes - apparently I need to track the non-deductible basis using Form 8606. What impressed me most was that it analyzed my specific timing issues and showed me exactly what I need to do differently next year to avoid penalties. Definitely cleared up my confusion!

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How exactly does this work? Can't you just call the IRS directly? I've been trying to get through about my IRA rollover issue but keep getting disconnected.

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Zainab Ismail

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This seems unnecessary. Why pay someone to call the IRS when you can just keep trying yourself? Or just talk to a tax professional who can give you the right answers without waiting on hold with the IRS.

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Zainab Ismail

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Well I take back what I said about Claimyr. After multiple failed attempts to reach the IRS about my own IRA conversion issue (they kept disconnecting me after 45+ minute holds), I decided to try it despite my skepticism. Got connected to an IRS rep in about 20 minutes who confirmed exactly how to handle my recharacterization on Form 5329. They walked me through the correct codes to use for my 1099-R and explained how to avoid this problem next year. The agent even put a note in my file about our conversation which may help if there are questions about my amended return. Honestly shocked at how well it worked after weeks of frustration trying to get through on my own.

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Yara Nassar

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One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet - you might want to check if you qualify for a waiver of the 6% excess contribution penalty. The IRS can sometimes waive the penalty if you can demonstrate the issue was due to reasonable cause rather than willful neglect. You'd need to attach a statement to your amended return explaining that you weren't aware your income exceeded the Roth limits and that you took corrective action (recharacterization) as soon as you discovered the error. Include documentation of when you learned about the issue and when you initiated the recharacterization. While there's no guarantee they'll accept it, I've seen cases where the IRS has been understanding, especially for first-time mistakes with IRAs.

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Sofia Morales

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Thank you for mentioning this! I had no idea a waiver was even possible. What kind of documentation would I need to provide to show when I discovered the issue? Would emails to my financial advisor or brokerage count?

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Yara Nassar

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Emails with your financial advisor or brokerage would be excellent documentation. Save copies of any correspondence where you're asking about the MAGI limits or requesting information about how to fix the over-contribution. Also helpful would be a dated screenshot of when you logged into your account and initiated the recharacterization, plus any confirmation statements from your brokerage showing the timeline of events. The key is demonstrating that you acted promptly once you discovered the issue. Include dates in your written explanation and be specific about how you learned about the income limits and what steps you took immediately after.

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One thing that confuses me about these IRA recharacterizations is how they're treated for tax purposes in the year you do them. If the OP did the recharacterization in 2024, does that mean they report it on 2024 taxes even though it was correcting a 2023 contribution?

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Paolo Ricci

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It gets a bit complicated. The recharacterization itself isn't taxable, but it essentially treats the contribution as if it had originally gone into the Traditional IRA. The 6% penalty applies to 2023 because that's when the excess contribution occurred. However, the conversion from Traditional back to Roth (the backdoor part) is a 2024 taxable event and would be reported on 2024 taxes. You'd receive a 1099-R for that conversion.

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I went through almost the exact same situation last year and want to share what worked for me. The key thing to understand is that even though you missed the deadline, your recharacterization is still valid - you just can't avoid the penalty. Here's what I did: Filed Form 1040-X to amend my 2023 return, included Form 5329 to pay the 6% excess contribution penalty, and reported the $600 in earnings as income for 2023. The penalty only applies to the contribution amount, not the gains. For 2024, I reported the backdoor Roth conversion normally using the 1099-R forms I received. Make sure to file Form 8606 to track your non-deductible traditional IRA basis - this is crucial to avoid being taxed twice on the conversion. The whole process took about 8 weeks to get processed, but the IRS accepted everything without issues. Don't stress too much - this is more common than you think and the IRS has clear procedures for handling it. Just make sure you file that amended return sooner rather than later to get the penalty paid and behind you.

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Sarah Jones

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This is incredibly helpful - thank you for sharing your experience! I'm curious about the timeline you mentioned. When you say it took 8 weeks to get processed, was that for the amended return or the penalty payment specifically? I'm trying to figure out if I should expect any follow-up correspondence from the IRS or if they just process it quietly once everything is submitted correctly. Also, did you include any explanation letter with your Form 1040-X about the reasonable cause, like Yara mentioned above? I'm wondering if it's worth trying for the penalty waiver or if I should just accept it and move on.

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