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Roger Romero

What should I do with an accidental 2023 traditional IRA contribution when my MAGI is too high?

I messed up big time and need some tax advice! Back in early January 2024, I contributed $6,500 to my traditional IRA for the 2023 tax year. At the time, I was thinking I'd get a nice tax deduction for the full amount. Here's the problem - I just realized my MAGI is way too high to qualify for the traditional IRA deduction. Ugh! To make matters more complicated, that $6,500 contribution has now grown to about $6,800 in the account. I'm totally confused about what to do now. Can I just recharacterize the entire $6,800 into a Roth IRA for 2023? And if I do convert or recharacterize from traditional to Roth, will I get hit with taxes? This is stressing me out! I don't want to make another mistake and dig myself a deeper hole with the IRS. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Anna Kerber

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You've got a few options here, so don't stress too much! This happens more often than you'd think. First, let's clarify the difference between recharacterization and conversion - they're not the same thing. Recharacterization treats the contribution as if it had gone to the second IRA type from the beginning, while conversion moves money from traditional to Roth and creates a taxable event. For your situation, you can recharacterize your contribution (plus earnings) from traditional to Roth IRA. Since you're over the income limit for traditional IRA deductions, this might be your best option. You need to contact your IRA custodian to request this recharacterization for your 2023 contribution. You won't pay taxes on the original $6,500 contribution amount during recharacterization (since it was after-tax money anyway if you can't deduct it), but you will owe taxes on the $300 of earnings in the year you do the recharacterization. The deadline for recharacterization is your tax filing deadline, including extensions (typically October 15, 2025 for 2024 taxes).

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Niko Ramsey

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This is helpful but I'm still a bit confused. If I recharacterize to Roth, but my income is also too high for direct Roth contributions, am I allowed to do this? Or would I need to do a backdoor Roth instead?

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Anna Kerber

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If your income is also above the Roth IRA contribution limits, then you're right to be concerned. In that case, you'd essentially be doing a "backdoor Roth" by recharacterizing. With a backdoor Roth, you make a non-deductible contribution to a traditional IRA and then convert it to a Roth. The recharacterization route is similar in outcome but different procedurally. If your income exceeds both traditional deduction limits and Roth contribution limits, you should consult with your tax professional about proper documentation, including filing Form 8606 to report the non-deductible traditional IRA contribution.

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Another option worth considering: if you're over the income limits for both traditional IRA deductions AND direct Roth contributions, you might want to look into the "backdoor Roth IRA" strategy. Basically, you: 1. Make a non-deductible contribution to your traditional IRA (which you've already done) 2. Convert the traditional IRA to a Roth IRA The catch is that this works best if you don't have other traditional IRA assets because of the "pro-rata rule" - which means you can't just convert the non-deductible portion tax-free if you have other pre-tax IRA money. For your specific situation with the $6,800 currently in the account, you'd owe taxes on the $300 in earnings but not on the original $6,500 contribution (assuming you properly report it as non-deductible on Form 8606).

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How long do you need to wait between making the non-deductible traditional IRA contribution and converting it to Roth? I've heard differing opinions on this, with some saying you need to wait a certain period of time.

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There's actually no required waiting period between making a non-deductible traditional IRA contribution and converting it to a Roth IRA. Some people do the conversion almost immediately after the contribution clears in their traditional IRA. The confusion about waiting periods likely comes from concerns about the "step transaction doctrine," which is a tax concept where the IRS could potentially view related transactions as a single transaction if they're clearly pre-planned steps. However, the IRS has not been challenging backdoor Roth conversions on this basis, and many tax professionals now consider it a standard, accepted practice regardless of timing.

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Don't forget about Form 8606! This is super important if you're doing non-deductible traditional IRA contributions or conversions. You need to file this form to report non-deductible contributions to traditional IRAs and to track your basis. If you don't file this form, you could end up paying taxes twice on the same money later when you withdraw or convert. The IRS won't track your non-deductible contributions for you!

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Cedric Chung

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I learned this the hard way! Missed filing 8606 for two years and had to submit amended returns. Such a headache. TurboTax didn't even prompt me about it when I entered my IRA info.

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