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Just FYI - this is EXACTLY why i never do the refund advances. They always seem to cause problems like this. Maybe you'll get lucky and have it workout quickly but you might be looking at a paper check in a few weeks.
yep, those advances are basically loans with extra steps. and they always seem to mess up the actual refund deposit
This exact same thing happened to my sister last year! The TurboTax/Credit Karma integration creates these temporary routing accounts for processing advances, and sometimes the system gets confused about which account to send the actual refund to. What likely happened is your refund went to that temporary account that was used for your advance, but since that account is only meant for processing the advance (not receiving the full refund), it probably got rejected by the bank. When direct deposits get rejected, the IRS automatically switches to mailing a paper check. The good news is you will get your money - it just takes longer. Based on what others have shared here, you're probably looking at 3-4 weeks for the paper check to arrive. Keep checking your mailbox around early November. In the meantime, definitely try to get someone from the IRS on the phone to confirm what's happening. I know it's frustrating but your $4,278 isn't lost, just delayed in the system.
I just want to add a word of caution - I confirmed with my tax attorney that while July 15, 2023 is indeed the deadline for most 2019 returns and amendments, there are a few specific situations where different rules might apply. For example, if you filed for an extension beyond the July 15, 2020 date, your deadline calculation would be different. Also, for certain disaster area declarations that came after COVID, there might be additional extensions that apply. Always double-check your specific situation!
Do you know if this applies to people who were living abroad in 2019-2020? I was an expat during that time and I know we sometimes get different deadlines, but I'm not sure how the COVID extensions affected that.
For expatriates, the standard rule is that you automatically get an additional 2 months (until June 15) to file. However, during 2020, the COVID extension superseded this since July 15 was later than the expat June 15 date. The three-year statute of limitations would still be calculated from the COVID-extended date (July 15, 2020), making your deadline July 15, 2023 - the same as domestic filers for the 2019 tax year. The only exception might be if you requested an additional extension beyond July 15, 2020, which would have pushed your original filing deadline to October 15, 2020. In that case, your statute of limitations would run three years from when you actually filed.
I'm so confused about all these deadlines! I had health problems in 2020 and completely missed filing my 2019 taxes. Now I'm trying to catch up but cant figure out if I'm too late. If the deadline was July 15 2023 does that mean I'm totally out of luck now?? Or can I still file?
If you're owed a refund, unfortunately after July 15, 2023, you've missed the window to claim it for 2019. The three-year statute of limitations has expired. However, if you OWE taxes, the IRS still wants their money! You should file as soon as possible to minimize the penalties and interest that have been accumulating. The IRS can technically collect unpaid taxes for up to 10 years, so you're nowhere near that deadline. Filing now will stop additional failure-to-file penalties from growing.
@Dylan Campbell is absolutely right about the distinction. I went through something similar when I missed filing due to a family emergency. Even though you can t'get a refund after the statute of limitations expires, you definitely want to file if you owe money to stop the penalties from getting worse. The failure-to-file penalty is typically 5% of your unpaid taxes for each month or (part of a month that) your return is late, up to a maximum of 25%. There s'also a failure-to-pay penalty and interest that keeps accumulating. Filing now, even late, will at least stop the failure-to-file penalty from growing. If you had significant medical issues in 2020, you might also want to look into requesting penalty relief from the IRS based on reasonable cause. They sometimes waive penalties for circumstances beyond your control like serious illness.
Just to add another perspective - when I set up my S-Corp payroll in Gusto last year, I selected "Owner" AND "Officer" like others suggested, but I also needed to set up my state unemployment insurance account first. Gusto needed that SUI account number to complete the setup properly. Each state has different requirements, so double check what your state needs!
Which tax software did you use to file your S-Corp return? I'm trying to decide between TurboTax Business and H&R Block Premium. Did Gusto integrate well with whatever you used?
I used TaxAct for Business to file my S-Corp return last year. It was reasonably priced and worked well enough, though there was a bit of a learning curve. The nice thing is that Gusto integrates with pretty much all the major tax software options. Gusto automatically generates your W-2 and makes it super easy to input all the payroll data when you're filing your taxes. They even have a special year-end report formatted specifically for S-Corps that summarizes all the payroll information you'll need for your 1120S filing. I just downloaded that report and used it to fill in the appropriate sections in TaxAct. Made the whole process much simpler than I expected!
Hey Fatima! I went through this exact same situation about 8 months ago when I converted my single-member LLC to S-Corp status. The classification part in Gusto definitely threw me for a loop initially too! You'll want to select both "Owner" and "Officer" as your employee type in Gusto. Since you're the sole owner of your S-Corporation, you're technically considered a corporate officer (usually President/CEO) as well as the owner. This dual classification is what the IRS expects for S-Corp owner-employees. One tip that really helped me: before you finalize everything in Gusto, make sure you have your EIN updated with the IRS to reflect your S-Corp election. Sometimes there's a lag between when you file the election and when it shows up in their system, which can cause hiccups with payroll setup. Also, don't stress too much about getting the "reasonable salary" perfect right away. You can always adjust it as you learn more about your business patterns. I started conservative and then increased it after a few quarters once I had a better handle on cash flow. Good luck with the setup!
Is there a time limit on these corporate write-offs? Like could Warner Bros claim the loss now for the tax benefit, but then release the movie in a few years? Or once they claim it as a loss, are they permanently prevented from ever making money from it?
Great question. Generally, once a company claims an asset as a complete loss for tax purposes, they can't later turn around and generate revenue from it. If they did, the IRS would likely require them to recognize that as income and potentially reverse the original deduction. However, tax laws do change, and there might be structuring options where they could potentially release the film years later through a different entity or after a significant reworking that makes it a "new" asset. But this would be complex and might invite IRS scrutiny.
This is such a fascinating example of how corporate tax strategy works at scale! As someone who's dealt with business losses on a much smaller level, I can see the logic even though the numbers are mind-boggling. What really strikes me is how this illustrates the difference between accounting loss and economic loss. Warner Bros already spent the $90 million - that money is gone regardless. The question becomes: can they minimize the total financial impact through tax strategy? If the write-off saves them $19+ million in taxes, and they genuinely believe the movie won't generate more than that in net revenue (after marketing costs, potential brand damage, etc.), then mathematically it makes sense. It's the same principle that applies to any business loss deduction, just with way more zeros. When I had to write off some equipment that didn't work out for my consulting business, I was essentially doing the same thing - reducing my taxable income by the amount of the loss to minimize the overall financial impact. The part that's hardest to wrap my head around is the permanence of it. Once they claim that loss, they're essentially burning the bridge to ever monetizing that content. That's a level of financial commitment that shows how confident they are in their analysis.
Hiroshi Nakamura
Think of your tax refund like a package in transit - once it's been dispatched with specific delivery instructions (your closed bank account), it needs to be returned to the sender (IRS) before they can reroute it. This process typically adds 2-4 weeks to your wait time. One thing to consider: if you're moving soon or have concerns about mail delivery, you might want to set up USPS mail forwarding immediately as a precaution. The IRS won't know your account is closed until the deposit attempt fails, so you're already in the pipeline for the check conversion process.
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Malik Robinson
I went through this exact situation two years ago! Here's what actually happened in my case: The IRS attempted the direct deposit on the scheduled date, my bank rejected it within 24-48 hours, and then it took about 3 weeks from that rejection date to receive the paper check. The frustrating part is that you can't really do anything to speed up the process once it's in motion. However, I'd strongly recommend checking the "Where's My Refund" tool on IRS.gov daily - it will show you when the status changes from "direct deposit" to "check mailed" so you know exactly where things stand. Also, if your address has changed since filing, definitely set up USPS mail forwarding ASAP as that's your best bet for making sure the check reaches you. The whole process felt like forever when I was waiting for the money, but it does work out in the end!
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