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Just wanted to add - make sure you're calculating the QBI correctly. It's 20% of your QUALIFIED business income, not just 20% of whatever is on your 1099. You need to subtract business expenses first, then calculate the 20%.

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But what if I don't have any business expenses like in my situation? Is QBI just 20% of the gross 1099-NEC amount then?

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If you truly have zero business expenses, then yes, your QBI would be 20% of your gross 1099-NEC amount. That's pretty unusual though - most freelancers have at least some expenses like home office, supplies, software subscriptions, or mileage. Even small deductions can add up. Many freelancers miss legitimate deductions because they don't realize what qualifies. Even a portion of your cell phone bill or internet could be deductible if you use them for work. That said, if your situation genuinely involves no expenses whatsoever, then the full 1099 amount would be your qualified business income.

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I've been getting this QBI deduction for years on my freelance income. Super simple. One thing to watch for though - if you start making more from freelancing, remember there are phaseout thresholds. Made that mistake one year and had an unpleasant surprise at tax time lol

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Benjamin Kim

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What are the current thresholds where it phases out? I'm starting to do more freelance work and wondering if I need to worry about this.

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For 2024, the QBI deduction starts phasing out at $191,050 for single filers and $382,100 for married filing jointly. The phaseout is complete at $241,050 (single) and $482,100 (joint). So you've got quite a bit of runway before you need to worry about it! The phaseout rules get more complex too - certain service businesses face additional restrictions during the phaseout range, but most freelancers don't hit these thresholds unless they're doing really well.

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Has anyone considered the flipside? If the tenant pays utilities directly, does that mean the TENANT can deduct those utilities somehow? Like as a home office deduction if they work from home? Just curious if there's any benefit to the tenant for paying utilities directly vs having them included in rent.

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Tenants generally can't deduct regular household utilities, even if they work from home. The home office deduction works differently - they could potentially deduct a PORTION of utilities based on the percentage of the home used exclusively for business. But that's true regardless of whether they pay utilities directly or if utilities are bundled into rent. The tenant doesn't get any special tax treatment just because they pay utilities directly vs having them included in rent. The only real difference is that with direct payment, they have more control over usage and can potentially save money by being more energy-conscious.

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Thanks for explaining that! Makes sense about the home office deduction being based on percentage of space rather than how the utilities are paid. Guess it doesn't really matter tax-wise after all. I was just wondering if there was some hidden benefit I was missing. Appreciate the clarification!

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I went through this exact same situation with my duplex rental last year. The bottom line is definitely no - you cannot deduct utilities that your tenant pays directly to the utility companies. The IRS is very clear that you can only deduct expenses that you actually paid out of pocket. However, don't let this discourage you from the tenant-pays-utilities arrangement! There are actually some advantages to this setup. You don't have to worry about tenants leaving lights on or cranking up the heat since they're paying the bill. Plus, you avoid the hassle of having to collect utility reimbursements or dealing with seasonal fluctuations in your cash flow. Just make sure you're capturing all the deductions you ARE entitled to - property management fees, repairs, maintenance, insurance, property taxes, depreciation, etc. Those can add up to significant savings even without the utility deductions.

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StarSeeker

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That's a great point about the advantages of having tenants pay utilities directly! I never thought about it from the cash flow perspective. I'm actually considering switching my rental arrangement to have tenants pay utilities directly for exactly those reasons - no more worrying about them blasting the AC all summer on my dime. Quick question though - when you made that switch, did you adjust the rent at all to account for the tenant now being responsible for utilities? I'm trying to figure out if I should lower the rent slightly since they're taking on that additional expense, or if the market rent should stay the same regardless of the utility arrangement.

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Andre Dupont

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I had a somewhat similar situation with a washing machine settlement. The manufacturer sent me a 1099 for the full amount, but the settlement was mainly covering the cost of the machine and water damage to my floor. My accountant told me to treat it as a return of capital to the extent of my documented expenses.

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Was your accountant able to point to any specific IRS publications or guidance on this? I'm trying to find the official rules so I can feel confident when I file.

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Andre Dupont

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Yes, she referenced IRS Publication 4345 which covers settlements and specifically talks about the tax treatment of different types of payments. She also pointed to IRS Publication 525 which discusses taxable and nontaxable income. The key principle she explained is that if you're being reimbursed for something you paid for (and didn't previously deduct on your taxes), it's generally not taxable income because you're just being made whole. You'll want documentation showing the original expenses that the settlement was replacing.

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ThunderBolt7

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Quick question - does the settlement letter from the dealership break down what the payment was for? Like does it specifically say "$X for repairs, $Y for inconvenience" etc? That would make it easier to determine the taxable portion.

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Zara Khan

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The settlement letter does mention reimbursement for "documented repair expenses" and then separately mentions an additional amount for "inconvenience and safety concerns." It doesn't list specific dollar amounts for each category though. I do have all my repair receipts which total about $3,800, and the settlement was for $6,500 total, so the difference was roughly $2,700.

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Landon Morgan

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Time to obsessively check WMR every 2 hours like the rest of us 🤣

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Teresa Boyd

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dont forget checking at 3am thinking it updated 😭

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Malik Davis

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That letter you received is likely for a different tax year or was generated before your current return was processed in their system. The timing is suspicious - you just filed and got accepted, but verification letters usually take time to generate and mail. Double-check the tax year mentioned in the letter. If it's for 2024 and you just filed your 2024 return, give it a few more days since there's often a delay between acceptance and when it shows up in all their systems. If you're still concerned, definitely call that 800 number they provided to clarify.

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Justin Chang

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This makes the most sense! I bet the letter is for a different tax year or was already in the mail before my return hit their system. Thanks for the clear explanation - I'll check what year the letter mentions and give it a few more days before calling. Really appreciate the help navigating this confusing process!

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Zara Rashid

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Has anyone had problems with the foreign tax credit affecting other parts of your return? Last year I claimed about $200 in foreign tax credit from my Betterment account, and it somehow messed up my qualified business income deduction calculation. TurboTax kept giving me an error about "modified taxable income" being affected.

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Luca Romano

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I had something similar happen! I think it's because the foreign tax credit reduces your tax liability, which can cascade into affecting other calculations like the QBI deduction. I ended up having to redo that section of my return after adding the foreign tax credit.

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I had this exact same issue with my Schwab account last year! The Box 6-d confusion is super common because most investment platforms don't make the country information easily accessible on their standard 1099-DIV forms. One thing that helped me was logging into my Schwab account and looking for "Tax Center" or "Tax Documents" section - they often have more detailed breakdowns there that show which specific countries withheld taxes. For your $127 amount, you're definitely under the $300 threshold for the simplified foreign tax credit, so you might not even need to specify each country. If you can't find the detailed breakdown and don't want to spend time on hold with Betterment, you could also just proceed with the simplified credit option in TurboTax. The IRS allows this for smaller amounts and it's much less complicated than filing Form 1116. Just make sure to select that you're claiming the credit for taxes under $300 when TurboTax asks.

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