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Anyone know what happens if you DO erroneously report a 1099-Q trustee transfer on your tax return? My accountant included mine last year before I realized it wasn't necessary. Should I file an amended return?
Depends on how it was reported. If your accountant just entered it as a non-taxable transfer, it's probably fine. But if they somehow treated it as a distribution (and potentially taxable), then yes, you might want to amend. Check your return to see if it changed your taxable income.
Just checked my return and it looks like they entered it but marked it as a qualified transfer, so it didn't affect my taxable income at all. Sounds like I can just leave it as is then, even though technically it wasn't necessary to report. Thanks for the advice!
Just went through this exact same situation! I was panicking when I saw Box 6 checked on my 1099-Q forms after doing trustee-to-trustee transfers between 529 plans. Called my tax preparer and she confirmed what everyone else is saying here - these forms don't need to be reported on your tax return at all. The key thing to remember is that Box 4 being marked as "Trustee to Trustee Transfer" is what matters. That tells the IRS (and you) that this wasn't a taxable distribution. Box 6 being checked is just a quirk of how the form works - since technically Fidelity received the funds, not your children. I kept copies of the forms in my tax records folder, but didn't enter them into my tax software. Filed my return normally and everything went smoothly. Don't stress about it - you're handling it correctly by questioning it, but there's really nothing you need to do!
This is really helpful! I'm dealing with a similar situation and was getting conflicting advice from different sources. Quick question - did you get any follow-up correspondence from the IRS about the 1099-Q forms not being reported on your return? I'm worried they might flag it as missing income even though it was just a transfer.
I went through something very similar with a 401k-to-IRA rollover I missed on my return. One thing that helped me was creating a timeline of events to include with my amendment - dates of the original 401k distribution, when the funds were received by the new IRA custodian, and confirmation that no funds were ever distributed to me personally. Also, if you haven't already, contact both your old employer's plan administrator and your new IRA custodian to get written confirmation that this was a direct trustee-to-trustee transfer. Some custodians will provide a letter specifically for tax purposes that clearly states the rollover was completed according to IRS regulations. Having that documentation attached to your amendment makes it crystal clear to the IRS that this was a non-taxable event. The peace of mind from getting this handled properly is worth the small effort of filing the amendment now rather than potentially dealing with IRS notices later.
This is really helpful advice about getting written confirmation from both institutions! I'm definitely going to reach out to both my old employer's plan administrator and Vanguard to get those letters. Having that official documentation sounds like it would make the amendment process much smoother and give me better peace of mind that everything is properly documented. Thanks for sharing your experience with creating a timeline too - I hadn't thought about including those specific dates but that makes total sense to show the IRS the complete picture of how the rollover happened.
I just want to echo what everyone else is saying - definitely file the amendment sooner rather than later! I had a similar situation with a 403b rollover that I forgot to report, and I made the mistake of waiting to see if the IRS would notice. They did notice (about 4 months later), and while there wasn't a penalty since it was non-taxable, I had to spend time responding to their notice and providing all the documentation I could have just included with an amendment from the start. The IRS notice made it sound much more serious than it actually was, which caused unnecessary stress. One tip that helped me - when I finally responded to the IRS notice, I included a cover letter that clearly stated "NON-TAXABLE DIRECT ROLLOVER" at the top in bold letters, followed by a brief explanation. This seemed to help the IRS processor understand the situation quickly. You could do something similar with your amendment to make it crystal clear what happened. Since you already know about the issue and have time to handle it properly, filing the amendment now will save you from that whole back-and-forth process with IRS correspondence later.
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FaxZero sounds perfect for my situation! Just to clarify - when you say "automatically delete your documents from their servers after transmission," do you know how long they keep them? I'm sending some pretty sensitive stuff (amended return with bank statements) and want to make sure there's no long-term storage risk. Also, have you ever had any delivery issues with the IRS fax numbers being busy? I've heard their fax lines can be overwhelmed during tax season.
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I'm dealing with a similar AMT credit situation from 2022 and this thread has been incredibly helpful! Just wanted to add that if you're working with a tax professional, make sure they're experienced with AMT credits specifically. I learned the hard way that not all CPAs are equally familiar with the mechanics. My first accountant completely missed that I had AMT credits available and I ended up paying way more in taxes than I should have. When I switched to someone who specializes in stock compensation and AMT issues, they caught the error and helped me file amended returns to claim the credits I was entitled to. For anyone in a similar boat - don't be afraid to ask your tax preparer directly about their experience with AMT credit carryforwards. It's a specialized area and you want someone who really knows the rules inside and out, especially when you're dealing with larger amounts like $50k.
This is such an important point about finding the right tax professional! I'm actually in the process of looking for a new CPA right now because I suspect mine isn't handling my AMT credits correctly. When you say "specializes in stock compensation and AMT issues" - how did you find someone with that specific expertise? Are there particular certifications or credentials I should look for, or is it more about asking the right questions during consultations? I'm worried I might be in the same boat as you were with missing credits from previous years. The idea of filing amended returns sounds daunting but if there's money on the table, I need to pursue it.
Great question! I found my current CPA through a few different approaches. First, I searched for tax professionals who specifically mention "stock compensation" or "equity compensation" on their websites - that's usually a good indicator they deal with AMT issues regularly since they go hand in hand. I also asked colleagues who work at tech companies or startups for referrals, since they're more likely to have dealt with similar situations. When interviewing potential CPAs, I asked specific questions like "How many AMT credit carryforward cases do you handle per year?" and "Can you walk me through how you'd approach recovering a large AMT credit balance?" As for credentials, look for CPAs who have experience with high-income earners or who mention specializing in "complex tax situations." Some also have additional certifications in financial planning which often correlates with understanding stock compensation. The amended returns honestly weren't as scary as I thought - my CPA handled most of the heavy lifting. If you suspect you've missed credits, it's definitely worth having someone review your last 3 years of returns. The statute of limitations for amended returns is generally 3 years, so don't wait too long if you think there might be issues.
This is such a helpful thread! I'm in a similar situation with about $35k in AMT credits from 2023 option exercises. One thing I wanted to add that hasn't been mentioned yet - make sure you understand how state taxes interact with federal AMT credits if you're in a high-tax state. I found out the hard way that California (where I live) has its own separate AMT system, so you can end up with both federal and state AMT credits to track. The recovery mechanics work similarly but they're completely separate - you can't use federal AMT credits against state taxes or vice versa. Also, if you're planning to move to a different state in the coming years, that could affect your recovery timeline since different states have different tax rates and AMT rules. Something to factor into your financial planning if you're trying to optimize when you'll see that money back.
This is such a crucial point about state vs federal AMT credits! I'm also in California and completely overlooked this distinction when I was planning my AMT credit recovery strategy. I was assuming I could use my federal credit to offset my overall tax burden, but you're right that they're completely separate systems. Do you happen to know if California's AMT credit recovery works the same way as federal - where you can claim it when your regular state tax exceeds your state AMT calculation? I'm wondering if the timing might work out differently between state and federal, which could actually help with cash flow planning. The state move consideration is really smart too. I've been thinking about relocating to Texas in a few years, and I hadn't considered how that might affect my ability to recover the California AMT credits I'm building up now.
Fatima Al-Farsi
One thing nobody's mentioned yet - check if any of your tax debt is approaching the 10-year CSED (Collection Statute Expiration Date). If so, sometimes it's better to wait it out than agree to a payment plan! When you enter into an installment agreement, the statute is suspended during the plan plus 30 days after it ends. So you could accidentally extend the life of tax debt that would otherwise expire soon.
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Dylan Wright
ā¢This is super important advice! I didn't realize this and ended up extending my CSED by almost 2 years by agreeing to a payment plan right before the 10-year mark. I should have just waited it out. Also worth noting that there are other things that extend the CSED besides payment plans - filing bankruptcy, submitting an offer in compromise, requesting a collection due process hearing, etc. Always check your transcript for the actual CSED date.
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Sophia Bennett
The combination of CNC status on multiple years while they actively pursue one specific year creates a complex situation that requires careful navigation. Here's my take based on what you've shared: First, don't feel bad about rejecting their initial offer - $500+ monthly escalating payments for someone who already has most years in CNC status due to financial hardship seems excessive. The fact that six of your seven years have TC 530 codes is significant leverage. Regarding the single-year payment plan issue: While IRS reps often say they can't do single-year agreements, there are exceptions. You should specifically ask about a "streamlined installment agreement" for just the 2019 liability, referencing the fact that the other years are already determined to be uncollectible due to your financial situation. The 2010 debt extending to 2026 is worth investigating further. That's a 16-year collection period, which suggests multiple statute extensions occurred (possibly previous payment plans, OIC applications, or bankruptcy). Request a copy of your CSED worksheet to understand exactly why it was extended. When they ask for financial statements, be prepared to demonstrate that your financial situation hasn't materially changed since the October 2022 CNC determination. If it hasn't improved, you might even be able to get the 2019 year put into CNC status as well. The employer withholding lock-in can be challenged once you establish a payment agreement and demonstrate compliance. This isn't automatic but is definitely possible. My advice: Call back, reference the CNC status on your other years, and propose a reasonable payment amount for just 2019 that aligns with your demonstrated financial capacity from the CNC determination.
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Jacob Lee
ā¢This is really helpful advice! I'm curious though - when you mention asking for a "streamlined installment agreement" for just the 2019 liability, is that an official IRS term I should use? I want to make sure I'm using the right language when I call back so they take me seriously. Also, regarding the CSED worksheet for the 2010 debt - how do I request that? Do I just ask the collections rep directly, or is there a formal process? That 16-year timeline seems way too long and I'd really like to understand what extended it so much. One more question - if my financial situation really hasn't changed since the 2022 CNC determination, should I be pushing to get 2019 into CNC status too rather than agreeing to any payment plan? It seems like if the IRS already determined I can't pay on six years due to hardship, the same logic should apply to 2019.
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