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This thread has been so helpful - I'm dealing with the exact same situation as a new teacher! My husband and I are both first-year educators in Texas and we're already worried about next tax season after hearing horror stories from other teachers about owing money. We both currently have "Married" selected on our W-4s because that's what HR recommended during orientation. Based on what everyone is saying here, it sounds like we should change this immediately before we get too far into the school year? Also, does anyone know if the withholding issues are the same in Texas since we don't have state income tax? I'm wondering if that actually makes it easier or if the federal withholding problems are just as bad regardless of the state. We're both making around $45,000 each, so very similar salaries. Should we be proactive and start having extra withheld now, or wait to see how our first tax season goes? I really don't want to be surprised with a big bill next April!
Definitely change your W-4s now rather than waiting! You're in the exact same situation that causes the withholding problems everyone's been discussing. With both of you making $45k, your combined $90k household income will push you into higher tax brackets than what "Married" withholding accounts for. Texas actually makes this slightly easier since you don't have to worry about state withholding complications, but the federal withholding gap will be just as bad. I'd recommend both of you switch to "Married but withhold at higher Single rate" immediately. Since you're early in the school year, you have time to be proactive. Based on what others have shared, with your combined income you'll probably want to add around $50-75 extra withholding per paycheck between both of you. The IRS withholding calculator mentioned earlier in this thread can give you a more precise number. Better to adjust now and have slightly less take-home pay than get hit with a $800-1200 tax bill next April like so many other dual-teacher couples experience. Your HR department was giving you the standard advice that works for traditional single-earner households, but doesn't apply to your situation.
As someone who went through this exact situation in my first year teaching, I can't stress enough how important it is to fix this NOW rather than waiting. My husband and I were both new teachers making similar salaries and we got absolutely blindsided our first tax season - ended up owing over $1,400 that we definitely didn't have saved up. The no state income tax in Texas is actually a blessing because it simplifies things - you only have to worry about getting the federal withholding right. But that federal gap is still going to be significant with your combined $90k income. Here's what I wish someone had told us: go ahead and use that IRS withholding calculator that's been mentioned throughout this thread, but also consider being a bit more aggressive with your extra withholding than what it suggests. As new teachers, you might have summer income, substitute teaching, or other opportunities that come up during the year that could push your tax liability even higher. We ended up switching both our W-4s to "Single" withholding rates (even though we're married) plus an additional $60 per paycheck each. Yes, it means less take-home pay, but we actually got a small refund our second year instead of owing money. You can always adjust it down later if you're over-withholding, but you can't go back and fix under-withholding after the tax year is over.
This is such great advice for new teachers! I'm a tax preparer who specializes in educator tax situations, and I see this dual-teacher withholding problem constantly during tax season. A few additional tips for Dylan and other new teacher couples: 1. Make sure to track ANY teaching-related expenses beyond the $250 educator deduction - while you can't deduct more than $250 federally, some states allow larger deductions, and keeping good records helps if you ever need to itemize. 2. If either of you coaches, tutors, or does any supplemental work, ask your payroll department about the withholding rate on those payments. Often they withhold at a flat rate that may not be sufficient for your actual tax bracket. 3. Consider opening a tax-advantaged retirement account (like a Roth IRA) if your district's pension plan allows it. This won't help with current year withholding but can reduce future tax issues and help you save more effectively on a teacher's salary. 4. Don't forget about the American Opportunity Tax Credit if either of you are still working on education-related degrees. It's more generous than the Lifetime Learning Credit for undergraduate work and can provide up to $2,500 per student per year. The withholding calculator approach mentioned throughout this thread really is your best bet for getting the numbers right. Good luck!
This is excellent comprehensive advice! I'm also a newcomer to this community but have been following this thread closely as I'm in a similar situation to Dylan. The point about tracking expenses beyond the $250 limit is really valuable - I had no idea some states offered larger deductions. One question about the retirement account suggestion - how does contributing to a Roth IRA help with taxes if it's post-tax money? Would a traditional IRA be better for reducing current tax liability, or am I missing something about how this works for teachers specifically? Also, for the supplemental work withholding - is there a way to request higher withholding on coaching stipends, or do you just have to compensate by increasing your regular paycheck withholding? My district pays coaching supplements as a lump sum at the end of the season, so I'm worried about getting hit with a big tax surprise.
Great question about the retirement accounts! You're absolutely right to question the Roth IRA suggestion for current tax relief - traditional IRAs would be better for reducing this year's tax liability since contributions are pre-tax (deductible). A Roth IRA won't help with your current withholding problem since you pay taxes on that money now. For your coaching supplements paid as lump sums, you can definitely request additional withholding! Contact your payroll department and ask them to withhold a specific percentage or dollar amount from those payments. Many districts will accommodate this if you submit the request before the payment is processed. Otherwise, yes, you'd need to increase your regular paycheck withholding to compensate. Since coaching pay is often treated as supplemental income, it might be withheld at the flat 22% rate regardless of your actual tax bracket. If your combined teacher income puts you in a higher bracket, that 22% won't be enough. You might want to request 28-30% withholding on coaching payments to be safe, especially given the dual-teacher household withholding issues everyone's been discussing. The key is being proactive about it - don't wait until after you receive the payment to realize the withholding was insufficient!
This thread has been incredibly comprehensive and helpful! As someone who also had to switch to paper filing this year due to identity verification issues, I wanted to share one additional consideration that might be useful. If you're in a state that requires state income tax filing, make absolutely sure you're using the correct state forms for the current tax year. I almost made the mistake of using last year's state forms because I had them saved on my computer. State tax agencies can be even less forgiving than the IRS when it comes to using outdated forms. Also, since you mentioned having a family member help with mailing - if possible, ask them to request a receipt showing the exact time and date of mailing along with the certified mail documentation. This can be important for meeting any filing deadlines, especially if you're cutting it close. One thing that really helped reduce my stress was creating a simple checklist of every step mentioned in this thread. Having it all written down in order made the process feel much more manageable and ensured I didn't forget any of the crucial details everyone shared. The identity theft situation is tough enough without having to worry about paper filing mechanics, but this community has provided such thorough guidance. You're clearly being very methodical about this, which will definitely pay off during processing!
As someone who recently went through paper filing for the first time in over 15 years, I can definitely relate to the anxiety you're feeling! This thread has covered almost everything comprehensively, but I wanted to add one more practical tip that saved me a lot of stress. Before sealing your envelope, take a moment to verify that your name and address are clearly written on both the envelope AND somewhere inside the package (like on your cover letter). I learned this from a postal worker who mentioned that if the outer envelope gets damaged during transit, having your contact information inside helps ensure proper delivery. Also, regarding the certified mail process - when you get to the post office, don't be afraid to ask the clerk to double-check that they've applied the certified mail label correctly and that your return address is still visible. They deal with this all the time and are usually happy to help make sure everything looks right before you send it off. The identity theft situation adds an extra layer of complexity, but you're asking all the right questions and being incredibly thorough. That level of attention to detail will definitely work in your favor. Paper filing might feel old-fashioned, but in situations like yours, it actually provides better documentation and control over the process. Best of luck with everything - you've got this!
Has anyone calculated approximately how much tax might be owed on a forgotten W2? I'm trying to figure out if it's worth amending my return for about $2400 in forgotten wages or just waiting to see if I get a letter.
It depends on your overall tax situation, but as a rough estimate, you'd owe your marginal tax rate on that amount. So if you're in the 22% bracket, that's about $528 plus potential penalties and interest. The penalty for not reporting it can be around 0.5% per month up to 25% of the tax owed, plus interest that compounds daily.
I was in almost the exact same situation two years ago - forgot a W2 from a part-time job I had early in the year for about $1,600. I was terrified when I realized my mistake after already getting my refund. Here's what I learned: the IRS WILL find it eventually. Their matching system is really good at catching these things, even for smaller amounts. I initially thought about waiting it out, but I'm so glad I didn't. I filed the 1040-X about 6 weeks after I realized my mistake. The process was actually much less painful than I expected. I ended up owing about $320 in additional taxes, plus a small penalty (around $40) and minimal interest since I caught it early. The whole amendment was processed in about 12 weeks and I just sent them a check for the difference. My advice: bite the bullet and file the amendment now. The peace of mind alone is worth it, and you'll save money compared to waiting for them to find it. Plus, being proactive shows good faith which can sometimes help with penalty reduction.
22 I went through this exact situation last year with my survivor benefits. Just make sure you get your SSA-1099 form which shows all the benefits you received for the year. Social Security should mail it to you by January, but you can also get it online by creating an account on ssa.gov if you haven't received it.
I'm sorry for your loss. Losing a parent at such a young age is incredibly difficult, and it's admirable that you're taking responsibility for handling your taxes properly. To directly answer your question: Social Security survivor benefits may or may not be taxable depending on your total income, but they don't count toward the filing requirement threshold itself. However, since you earned $13,500 from your job and you're likely claimed as a dependent, you definitely need to file a return. Here's the key point many people miss: the filing requirement for dependents is based on *earned income* (like wages from your job), not total income including Social Security benefits. Since your earned income of $13,500 exceeds the dependent filing threshold of $1,350, you must file regardless of your Social Security benefits. As for the benefits themselves, with your income level, it's very likely that none of your $7,800 in survivor benefits will be taxable. But you still need to report them on your return - they go on lines 6a and 6b of Form 1040, with the help of the Social Security Benefits Worksheet in the instructions. Don't stress too much about this - you're actually in a pretty straightforward situation, and you'll likely get a refund of taxes withheld from your paychecks!
Thank you for such a clear and compassionate explanation! This makes so much more sense now. I was getting confused trying to figure out if the Social Security benefits "counted" toward income, but understanding that the filing requirement is based on earned income separately really helps. So just to confirm - even though my total money coming in is over $21k, the fact that most of it is Social Security survivor benefits doesn't push me into some higher tax bracket or anything? And I should definitely expect a refund since I'm probably in the lowest tax bracket with just my job income? I really appreciate everyone's help here. This whole process felt overwhelming at first, but breaking it down like this makes it seem much more manageable.
Mary Bates
Nobody mentioned keeping a mileage log, which is SUPER important if you're claiming any vehicle expenses (either through reimbursement or deduction if you qualify). The IRS is really strict about this. I use MileIQ app to track all my drives automatically, then just swipe left for personal trips and right for business. It creates IRS-compliant logs with timestamps, routes, and purpose of trips. Saved my butt during a review last year when they questioned my vehicle deductions for my side business. Even if you can't deduct expenses as a W-2 employee, a detailed mileage log will help if you're requesting reimbursement from your employer or if tax laws change in the future.
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Clay blendedgen
ā¢I second this! I got audited in 2022 and they specifically wanted to see my mileage log. Just saying "I drive for work" isn't enough - they want dates, starting/ending locations, business purpose, and total mileage for each trip. I had to reconstruct everything from calendar appointments and it was a nightmare.
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Olivia Harris
I'm a tax professional and want to clarify a few important points that came up in this discussion: First, @Dallas Villalobos is correct that the TCJA eliminated most unreimbursed employee expense deductions for regular W-2 employees. However, there are still some strategies worth exploring: 1. **Above-the-line deductions still exist** - If you're required to travel overnight for work and your employer doesn't reimburse you, those expenses may still be deductible in limited circumstances. 2. **State variations matter** - Several states (California, Pennsylvania, New York, etc.) still allow these deductions on state returns even though they're eliminated federally. 3. **Accountable plan vs non-accountable plan** - If your employer has an "accountable plan" for reimbursements (requires receipts, business purpose documentation), those reimbursements aren't taxable to you. Push for this if they don't have one. For your specific situation with 13,500 miles of driving, I'd strongly recommend negotiating a proper mileage reimbursement at the current IRS rate (67 cents per mile for 2024). That would be worth about $9,045 tax-free to you. Keep detailed records regardless - tax laws can change, and good documentation helps with employer reimbursement requests. The tablet purchase might be reimbursable if it's required for your job duties. Consider consulting with a local tax professional who can review your specific employment agreement and state tax situation.
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Marcelle Drum
ā¢Thank you for the professional clarification! This is really helpful. I had no idea about the state-level variations - I'm in Texas so probably no luck there, but good to know for others. The accountable plan concept is new to me too. My current reimbursement setup just pays for gas receipts with no mileage tracking required. It sounds like I should approach HR about switching to a proper mileage-based accountable plan system instead. Quick question - when you mention "required to travel overnight" as still potentially deductible, does that apply to day trips that are far from home? I sometimes drive 200+ miles in a day for client meetings but return home the same night.
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