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Does anyone know if the payment voucher changes each year? I found one in some old tax papers but I'm not sure if I can use it for this year's taxes.

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NebulaNinja

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Don't use an old voucher! The form itself might look similar but the processing information and routing details can change year to year. Always use the current year's Form 1040-V. You can download the current one directly from irs.gov or get it from your tax software if you're using any. Using an outdated form might delay your payment processing.

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NebulaNinja

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Don't use an old voucher! The form itself might look similar but the processing information and routing details can change year

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Omar Hassan

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Great question! I went through this exact same confusion a few years ago when I had to mail in my return. Yes, you definitely need Form 1040-V (the payment voucher) when sending a check with your tax return. Think of it as a "routing slip" that tells the IRS exactly where to apply your payment. The voucher is pretty straightforward - it's just a one-page form where you fill in your name, address, SSN, the tax year, and payment amount. It creates a paper trail so your payment gets credited to the right account and tax year. Without it, your check might sit in limbo while they try to figure out what it's for. Pro tip: Make sure you're using the current year's Form 1040-V (not an old one from previous years) and double-check that all the info matches exactly what's on your tax return. The IRS can be picky about consistency!

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Ava Garcia

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This is super helpful, thanks! I'm new to paper filing and honestly feeling pretty overwhelmed by all the different forms and procedures. One more question - when you say "double-check that all the info matches exactly," does that mean if I made a small typo on my return (like a slight address formatting difference), I need to make sure the voucher has the same typo? Or should I fix it on the voucher to match my official records?

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Leo Simmons

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Something I don't see mentioned yet - you'll also need to make quarterly estimated tax payments going forward if you continue getting 1099 income! The IRS expects you to pay taxes throughout the year, not just at filing time.

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Lindsey Fry

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This caught me off guard my first year freelancing. The estimated tax deadlines are weird too - they're not exactly quarterly (April 15, June 15, September 15, and January 15 of the following year).

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As someone who went through this exact same confusion last year, I feel your pain! One thing that really helped me was understanding that the 1099-NEC doesn't get "attached" anywhere - it's just your record of income that you need to report. Here's what worked for me: In your tax software, look for sections labeled "Business Income," "Self-Employment," or "Freelance Work" rather than looking for "1099-NEC" specifically. The software will ask you to enter the income amount from Box 1 of your 1099-NEC, then it automatically generates Schedule C and Schedule SE for you. Don't panic about the additional taxes - yes, you'll owe more than usual since nothing was withheld, but you can also deduct legitimate business expenses like software, equipment, and even a portion of your home internet if you use it for work. Keep all your receipts! If you're really stuck, consider upgrading your tax software or switching to one that includes self-employment features. It's worth the extra cost to avoid mistakes on your first year with 1099 income.

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Zoe Papadakis

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This is such helpful advice! I'm in a similar boat as the original poster - got my first 1099-NEC this year for some freelance writing work. I was also looking for a place to "attach" the form and getting frustrated. Your explanation about looking for "Business Income" sections instead of "1099-NEC" specifically makes so much sense now. Quick question - you mentioned keeping receipts for business expenses. I work from my kitchen table and don't have a dedicated home office. Can I still deduct things like my laptop and internet costs, or do I need an actual separate office space for those deductions?

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14 One thing nobody's mentioned - make sure you're properly licensed and insured for a home laundry business! My sister got hit with fines because she didn't have the right permits. Also affects your tax situation because those permit fees and insurance premiums are deductible business expenses.

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2 Good point! I had to get a home occupation permit ($85/year) and additional liability insurance when I started my laundry service. Both were fully deductible on Schedule C. My insurance agent also recommended taking photos of all my equipment for potential casualty loss deductions if anything gets damaged.

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Great discussion everyone! As someone who's been running a small home-based service business for a few years, I can definitely relate to the confusion around deductions. One thing I'd add is to consider setting up a separate business bank account if you haven't already - it makes tracking business expenses so much easier come tax time. Also, don't forget about deducting your business insurance premiums, any professional memberships or subscriptions related to your laundry business, and even mileage for business-related trips (like picking up supplies or meeting clients). These smaller deductions can really add up over the year. Keep receipts for everything and consider using a simple spreadsheet or accounting app to track expenses monthly rather than scrambling at tax time. One last tip - if you're doing laundry for other businesses, make sure you're issuing proper invoices and keeping copies. The IRS loves to see that paper trail for business-to-business transactions.

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QuantumQuest

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This is really helpful advice! I hadn't thought about the mileage deduction - I do make trips to pick up commercial detergent and fabric softener from the restaurant supply store about once a month. That could add up to a decent deduction over the year. The separate business bank account is something I keep putting off, but you're right that it would make tracking so much cleaner. Right now I'm trying to separate personal and business transactions from the same account and it's getting messy, especially with utility payments that are partially business use. Quick question - for the business insurance, did you have to get a special policy or was it an add-on to your homeowner's insurance? I'm worried about my homeowner's policy not covering business activities.

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Arjun Kurti

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This has been such a comprehensive discussion on HSA strategy! As someone who just went through this exact decision-making process, I wanted to share my experience and add a few practical tips that might help others. I was in the same boat with my employer's HSA provider - frustrating customer service, limited investment options with high expense ratios (0.9%+), and an interface that felt like it was designed in the early 2000s. I was seriously considering switching to post-tax contributions through Schwab just to escape the headache. But after doing the math (similar to what everyone here has calculated), I realized I'd be giving up about $312 in FICA tax savings on my individual contribution for 2025. Combined with the long-term impact of high expense ratios, staying put wasn't really an option either. The hybrid approach has been perfect - I kept my payroll deductions to capture the full tax benefits and now do transfers twice a year to Schwab. Here's what I learned that might help others: 1. **Set calendar reminders** - I almost forgot my first scheduled transfer because life got busy. Now I have recurring calendar alerts every 6 months. 2. **Document everything** - Keep records of transfer dates and amounts for your own tracking, even though it doesn't affect taxes. 3. **Start with a small test transfer** - My first transfer was just $500 to make sure the process worked smoothly before moving larger amounts. 4. **Ask about expedited processing** - Some providers offer faster transfers for a small additional fee if you're concerned about market timing. The difference in investment options has been remarkable. I went from being stuck in expensive actively managed funds to having access to Schwab's entire lineup of low-cost index funds. The peace of mind from better customer service alone has been worth the minimal hassle of periodic transfers. For anyone still on the fence about this strategy - the math really does work out strongly in your favor. You keep the maximum tax advantages while gaining access to much better investment options and service. Just make sure to research your current provider's transfer fees and policies before finalizing your approach.

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Grace Durand

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@Arjun Kurti This is incredibly helpful practical advice! Your point about setting calendar reminders is spot on - it s'so easy to get busy and forget about scheduled transfers, which defeats the whole purpose of getting money into better investments quickly. The test transfer idea is brilliant too. Starting with a smaller amount to make sure the process works smoothly before moving thousands of dollars gives great peace of mind. I hadn t'thought about asking for expedited processing either - that could be worth exploring if the timing happens to coincide with market volatility concerns. Your experience moving from 0.9%+ expense ratios to Schwab s'low-cost index funds really illustrates why this hybrid approach makes so much sense. Over decades, that expense ratio difference alone will likely save you tens of thousands in fees, even before considering potential performance differences. I m'curious - when you do your semi-annual transfers, do you move your entire accumulated balance or leave a small buffer in your original HSA account? I m'trying to decide whether it s'worth keeping maybe $500-1000 in the employer s'HSA to avoid any potential account maintenance issues, or if it s'better to transfer everything and deal with any fees as they come up. Thanks for sharing such detailed practical tips - this is exactly the kind of real-world guidance that makes this community so valuable!

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Yuki Ito

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This discussion has been incredibly thorough and helpful! I'm dealing with a very similar situation with my employer's HSA provider (SelectAccount) - terrible customer service, limited investment options, and fees that seem designed to nickel and dime you at every turn. The FICA tax math everyone has laid out really clarifies why the hybrid approach makes so much sense. At my contribution level ($4,300 individual limit for 2025), I'd be giving up about $329 in FICA savings by switching to post-tax contributions. That's real money that adds up over time. What's particularly valuable about this thread is seeing the real-world experiences from people who've actually implemented this strategy. The practical tips about setting calendar reminders, starting with test transfers, and checking specific provider fee structures are exactly what I needed to hear. I'm planning to keep my payroll deductions to capture the full tax benefits, then do quarterly transfers to Fidelity to get access to their zero-fee index funds. SelectAccount charges $30 per transfer, so doing it quarterly should give me a good balance between minimizing fees and getting money out of their expensive investment options (most are 0.8%+ expense ratios) reasonably quickly. One thing I'll add that might help others - I called SelectAccount yesterday to understand their transfer process, and they mentioned that transfers initiated before 2 PM Eastern typically process one business day faster. Small detail, but could be useful for anyone trying to minimize time in transit between accounts. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences and did the math - this community consistently provides better practical guidance than most fee-based financial advisors I've consulted!

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This has been such an incredibly comprehensive discussion! As someone who just turned 21 and gained access to my UTMA accounts last month, I can't thank everyone enough for sharing their experiences and insights. I came into this thread with the simple question about cost basis, but I'm leaving with a much deeper understanding of all the interconnected considerations - from tax optimization strategies and state residency implications to financial aid timing and even the psychological aspects of suddenly inheriting substantial investment accounts. A few key takeaways that I'll definitely be implementing: 1. Starting with individual stock sales first to get comfortable with the process before tackling complex mutual fund records 2. Having that important conversation with my parents about their original intentions and investment strategy 3. Setting up proper documentation and record-keeping from the start 4. Considering the timing implications for financial aid if I decide to pursue graduate school The mention of tools like taxr.ai for strategic guidance and Claimyr for getting through to customer service representatives also seems really valuable for someone like me who's navigating this alone. I think the most important lesson from this thread is that there's no rush to make major decisions immediately. Taking time to understand what I have and starting with smaller, strategic moves while I learn seems much more sensible than trying to implement a complex multi-year optimization plan right away. Thanks again to everyone who shared their real-world experiences - this community is incredibly helpful for those of us just starting this journey!

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Dylan Hughes

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What a fantastic summary of this discussion! As someone who's new to this community, I'm amazed at how generous everyone has been with sharing their real-world experiences and practical advice. This thread has been like getting a masterclass in UTMA transitions from people who've actually been through it. Your takeaway about not rushing into major decisions really resonates with me. It's easy to get caught up in trying to optimize everything perfectly when there's so much helpful information available, but you're absolutely right that starting small and learning as you go is probably the wisest approach. I particularly appreciated the earlier comments about the emotional and psychological aspects of this transition - it's refreshing to see people acknowledge that inheriting control of substantial investment accounts isn't just a technical challenge, but a significant life milestone that deserves thoughtful consideration. Looking forward to following your journey and hopefully sharing some insights of my own once I gain more experience navigating this process. This community seems like an incredible resource for anyone dealing with similar financial transitions!

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Emma Davis

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This thread has been absolutely invaluable for understanding UTMA transitions! As someone who gained control of my accounts about 3 months ago, I've been bookmarking so many of the strategies and resources mentioned here. One thing I wanted to add that might help others - if you're dealing with very old UTMA accounts (mine were started in the early 2000s), some of the original investment choices might include funds that have since been merged or discontinued. I discovered that two of my mutual funds had been absorbed into other funds over the years, which initially made tracking the cost basis more confusing. The good news is that most brokerages maintain records of these corporate actions and can provide you with adjusted cost basis information that accounts for fund mergers, splits, and name changes. When I called Vanguard, they were able to give me a complete "genealogy" of how my original investments had evolved over time, which made the tax planning much clearer. Also want to echo the appreciation for everyone sharing their experiences with tools like taxr.ai and Claimyr - having specific resources to help navigate the practical challenges makes this transition feel much more manageable. It's one thing to understand the theory of tax optimization, but having actual tools to implement the strategies is incredibly valuable for those of us just starting this process!

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Amina Sy

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That's such a helpful point about fund mergers and discontinued investments! I hadn't even thought about the possibility that some of my UTMA investments might have changed over the years. My accounts are also from the early 2000s, so I should definitely check with my brokerage about any corporate actions that might have affected the cost basis calculations. The "genealogy" concept you mentioned from Vanguard sounds incredibly useful - it's reassuring to know that they can trace the evolution of investments over time rather than leaving us to piece together 20+ years of changes ourselves. I'm going to call them this week to get that kind of comprehensive history for my accounts. I'm also really grateful for this entire discussion. When I first gained access to my UTMA accounts, I felt completely overwhelmed by all the tax implications and strategic decisions. This thread has not only provided practical guidance but also shown me that I'm not alone in feeling uncertain about how to handle this transition responsibly. The combination of technical advice and emotional support from people who've been through similar situations has been invaluable.

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