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Do Social Security Survivor Benefits count towards gross income when filing taxes?

Title: Do Social Security Survivor Benefits count towards gross income when filing taxes? 1 I'm 18 and just started doing my taxes for the first time, and I'm kind of confused. I made about $13,500 this year from my part-time job, and I wasn't sure if I even needed to file taxes because I thought it was under the threshold. But then I remembered I also get survivor benefits from Social Security after my dad passed away, which is another $7,800 for the year. So my question is - do I need to count these Social Security survivor benefits as part of my income when I'm figuring out if I need to file? If I add them together, that would be around $21,300 total. Does that mean I definitely need to file now? I'm really not sure how this works and don't want to mess anything up with the IRS. Thanks for any help!

Reina Salazar

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7 Most Social Security benefits, including survivor benefits, are potentially taxable, but it depends on your total income. The good news is that for someone in your situation with lower income, your Social Security survivor benefits likely won't be taxed at all. Here's how it works: Social Security benefits only become taxable if your "provisional income" exceeds certain thresholds. Provisional income is basically your adjusted gross income (not including Social Security) + nontaxable interest + 1/2 of your Social Security benefits. For a single filer, benefits start becoming taxable when this sum exceeds $25,000. With $13,500 in wages and $7,800 in benefits, your provisional income would be $13,500 + $3,900 (half your benefits) = $17,400, which is below the threshold where benefits become taxable. However, you still need to file a tax return because your earned income from your job exceeds the standard deduction for a dependent (assuming someone claims you).

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Reina Salazar

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3 Wait, I'm confused about the filing requirements. If I make less than the standard deduction ($13,850 for 2025), don't I get to skip filing altogether? Or is there a different threshold for dependents like the person above?

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Reina Salazar

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7 The filing requirements are different for dependents. If you can be claimed as a dependent on someone else's return (like your parent or guardian), then you must file if your earned income is more than the standard deduction for dependents, which is currently $1,350. Since your earned income from your job is $13,500, you would need to file regardless of your Social Security benefits. If you're not a dependent and no one can claim you, then you'd compare your total taxable income to the standard deduction for a single filer, which is $13,850 for 2025. Your Social Security benefits might not be taxable, but they still factor into determining whether your other income is taxable.

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Reina Salazar

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Reina Salazar

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Reina Salazar

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Reina Salazar

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Reina Salazar

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5 Just wanted to add something important: Even though your Social Security survivor benefits might not be taxable (which is likely the case with your income level), you should still report them on your tax return. There's a specific place on Form 1040 where you report the total amount of Social Security benefits received, and then a worksheet helps determine if any portion is taxable. Also, are you being claimed as a dependent on someone else's return? That makes a big difference in your filing requirements and what deductions/credits you can claim.

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Reina Salazar

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1 Yeah my mom still claims me as a dependent since I live at home and she provides most of my support. Does that change things? And where exactly on the 1040 do I put the Social Security amount? This is all so confusing ugh

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Reina Salazar

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5 Yes, being claimed as a dependent does change things. Since your mom claims you, you can't claim your own personal exemption, and there are limits on some credits you might otherwise qualify for. However, you still need to report your income on your own return if you meet the filing requirements, which you do with $13,500 in wages. For reporting Social Security benefits, you'll enter the total amount from your SSA-1099 (Box 5) on Form 1040, line 6a. Then after completing the worksheet to determine the taxable portion (likely zero in your case), you'll enter that amount on line 6b. The IRS has a worksheet in the 1040 instructions called "Social Security Benefits Worksheet" that walks you through the calculation.

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Reina Salazar

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22 I went through this exact situation last year with my survivor benefits. Just make sure you get your SSA-1099 form which shows all the benefits you received for the year. Social Security should mail it to you by January, but you can also get it online by creating an account on ssa.gov if you haven't received it.

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Reina Salazar

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10 Free Tax USA handled my son's survivor benefits really well last year. Much better than TurboTax which kept trying to charge me extra for "special forms" or something. And it was completely free for federal filing.

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I'm sorry for your loss. Losing a parent at such a young age is incredibly difficult, and it's admirable that you're taking responsibility for handling your taxes properly. To directly answer your question: Social Security survivor benefits may or may not be taxable depending on your total income, but they don't count toward the filing requirement threshold itself. However, since you earned $13,500 from your job and you're likely claimed as a dependent, you definitely need to file a return. Here's the key point many people miss: the filing requirement for dependents is based on *earned income* (like wages from your job), not total income including Social Security benefits. Since your earned income of $13,500 exceeds the dependent filing threshold of $1,350, you must file regardless of your Social Security benefits. As for the benefits themselves, with your income level, it's very likely that none of your $7,800 in survivor benefits will be taxable. But you still need to report them on your return - they go on lines 6a and 6b of Form 1040, with the help of the Social Security Benefits Worksheet in the instructions. Don't stress too much about this - you're actually in a pretty straightforward situation, and you'll likely get a refund of taxes withheld from your paychecks!

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Sayid Hassan

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Thank you for such a clear and compassionate explanation! This makes so much more sense now. I was getting confused trying to figure out if the Social Security benefits "counted" toward income, but understanding that the filing requirement is based on earned income separately really helps. So just to confirm - even though my total money coming in is over $21k, the fact that most of it is Social Security survivor benefits doesn't push me into some higher tax bracket or anything? And I should definitely expect a refund since I'm probably in the lowest tax bracket with just my job income? I really appreciate everyone's help here. This whole process felt overwhelming at first, but breaking it down like this makes it seem much more manageable.

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