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I've been through this exact situation multiple times. Per IRS Publication 5344, normal processing time is 21 days, but this is frequently extended during peak filing season. In my experience, mid-February filings are often taking 35-45 days this year due to increased verification procedures implemented after the PATH Act. I completely understand your concern about planning investments around your expected refund - I do the same thing! But I've learned to build in an extra buffer of 2-3 weeks beyond their stated timeframes, especially when filing during peak season.
Have you tried checking your account transcript instead of just the return transcript? Sometimes that updates first and shows pending refund information before the return transcript becomes available. Also, did you claim any credits that might put you under the PATH Act hold?
This happens every tax season with SBTPG, especially during peak weeks. Here's what the community has figured out: 1. SBTPG often receives funds 1-2 days before they show as "funded" on their website 2. Their system updates overnight, not in real-time 3. The "5 days early" feature gets automatically disabled when their processing queue exceeds capacity 4. Most people see funds within 48 hours of their DDD, despite what the website shows The best indicator is actually your IRS transcript, not the SBTPG website. If your transcript shows the refund was issued, it's on the way regardless of what SBTPG's site says.
Where can I find my transcript? Never checked it before. Is it on the IRS site? Need login credentials?
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I've always wondered why third-party processors like SBTPG are even necessary in the tax refund ecosystem? Couldn't the IRS just deposit directly to taxpayers and eliminate this middle layer that seems to cause so many delays? I work in financial systems integration, and this seems like an unnecessarily complex process that primarily benefits the tax preparation companies, not the taxpayers.
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I might be one of the lucky ones, but my situation was almost identical to yours last week. Had a DDD of 3/5, SBTPG showed nothing, got the same cancellation email about the 5-day advance, and was generally worried. I *think* there might have been some sort of system-wide delay at SBTPG because my money suddenly appeared in my bank account this morning even though their website still showed "unfunded" when I checked yesterday. So it seems their tracking system might be behind their actual processing.
If you don't mind me asking, which bank do you use? I'm wondering if perhaps certain financial institutions process these transfers more quickly than others. Also, was your deposit time consistent with when you normally receive direct deposits, or did it come at an unusual hour? I've been trying to determine if there's a pattern to when these tax refunds actually post to accounts.
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Credit Human did this to me last year too. My DDD was on a Monday and I didn't see the money until Thursday afternoon. Called them multiple times and kept getting the "it takes 3-5 business days to process" line. This year I switched to a different bank and my refund posted the same day as my DDD. Some smaller financial institutions just don't have the systems to process these deposits as quickly as the big banks do. If this is a recurring issue for you, might be worth considering a different bank for next year's refund.
Have you checked if Credit Human has any specific policies about tax refunds? Some banks place longer holds on government checks, especially for larger amounts. Did you receive any notifications from them about a hold? Also, is this a new account with them or have you received refunds there before without issues?
It seems like there might possibly be a timing issue with the banking system rather than an IRS problem. From what I understand, although the IRS provides a direct deposit date, financial institutions sometimes have their own processing times. Cash App in particular might potentially hold larger government deposits for review, which could possibly add 1-3 business days. Have you perhaps tried contacting Cash App support specifically about tax refunds?
Cash App is notorious for this compared to traditional banks. When I used Bank of America last year, my refund showed up exactly on my DDD. When my sister used Cash App this year, hers took 4 days after the DDD to appear. Cash App seems to hold tax refunds longer than regular deposits. Most people in our tax Facebook group say to expect 2-5 business days after your DDD with Cash App specifically.
Have you tried checking your refund status directly through the IRS website instead of IRS2Go? According to the TaxPro forums (https://www.irs.gov/refunds), the mobile app sometimes shows different information than the web portal. Also, SBTPG has a separate system for tracking refunds that might have more current information: https://taxpayer.sbtpg.com/. I'm curious if you're seeing the same status across all these different resources?
Did you have your tax prep fees taken out of your refund? Sometimes that can cause a delay in processing at SBTPG's end. Also, what bank are you using for direct deposit? Some banks hold these transfers longer than others, even after SBTPG releases them. π€
I'm sort of in the same boat as you. Has anyone here actually had their federal refund come before state? I'm wondering if maybe, possibly this is just how it works now and we didn't notice before?
Got my state refund in 8 days. Federal took 31 days. Nothing wrong with my return. This is normal now. Don't stress about it. If you need that money urgently, plan better next year by adjusting your withholding so you're not waiting on a big refund. Congrats on the marriage and good luck with the house hunting.
I think I might be able to help with the transcript access issue, which could give you some answers. Many people don't realize that the transcript system has very specific requirements that often cause access problems. For instance, if you've recently moved or changed phone numbers, the verification system might reject you. Or if you're using a VPN, that can trigger security blocks. In my case, I had to request a PIN by mail because I couldn't pass the online verification. It took about 10 days to arrive, but once I had it, I could see exactly what was happening with my return.
This is really good info. I kept getting rejected by the transcript system and couldn't figure out why. Turns out my credit report still had my old address, which was causing the verification to fail. Had to update that first before I could get access.
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Just a word of caution - I was in a similar situation last year and made the mistake of calling multiple times and creating multiple online accounts trying to check different ways. This actually flagged my account for potential identity verification issues, which added another 60 days to my processing time. Compared to other tax years, 2024 processing is significantly slower for many filers. The IRS is dealing with staffing shortages and increased verification procedures. If you've only been waiting 23 days, I'd strongly suggest giving it at least until the 30-day mark before taking more aggressive action.
I'm trying to gather information about the identity verification process with the IRS. As someone who likes to be prepared, I've done the following steps: 1. Filed my taxes on Feb 15th through TurboTax 2. Received a letter on March 24th saying I need to verify my identity 3. Created an ID.me account but got stuck at the video call step 4. Tried calling the verification hotline but couldn't get through I'm a bit skeptical about this whole process since I've never had to verify before. Has anyone here gone through this recently? If so, could you share your step-by-step experience? I work remotely and need this refund processed without having to take time off for in-person verification if possible.
I've been through this verification dance three times now! Last year was a nightmare - took almost 4 months to get my refund after verification. This year was much smoother. I actually found that scheduling an in-person appointment at my local Taxpayer Assistance Center was faster than trying to do the online verification. I walked in with my ID, answered a few questions, and was done in 20 minutes. My transcript updated three days later, and my refund hit my account two weeks after that.
Verification is separate from review. Different process. Many confuse these. Verification confirms identity only. Review examines return accuracy. Can happen sequentially. Verification first, then possible review. Check transcript codes. TC 570 with no TC 420 means hold, not audit. Normal after verification.
I've possibly noticed something similar with my transcripts over the years. The cycle codes seem to follow a somewhat predictable pattern, though not quite as consistent as what you're describing. It appears to be related, at least in part, to when during the tax season you file. In my experience, filing in early February versus late February often results in different processing centers handling the return, which might explain the alternating pattern you're seeing.
OMG this makes so much sense now! I've been staring at my transcripts for YEARS and never understood why the numbers kept changing! Thank you all for explaining this! π
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I tracked my cycle codes exactly for the past 4 years. 2020: filed Feb 3, code 0604. 2021: filed Feb 12, code 0704. 2022: filed Feb 1, code 0604. 2023: filed Feb 14, code 0704. It's 100% correlated with filing date in my case.
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I've gone down this rabbit hole before! Spent weeks tracking cycle codes across multiple years and multiple family members. What I discovered is that while there are patterns, they don't really tell you much that's useful. The codes are mostly for IRS internal tracking. My sister and I filed on the same day last year and got completely different cycle codes but received our refunds within 24 hours of each other. Don't let your ADHD hyperfocus on this too much (speaking from experience!) - it's interesting but won't help predict your refund timing.
Isabella Silva
I received exactly $8,742.19 on my tax refund card this year and was shocked by how difficult it was to access my own money! After 4 failed attempts to reach customer service (waited 37 minutes on my longest call), I used Claimyr (https://www.claimyr.com) to get through to an actual IRS agent in under 15 minutes. They confirmed I could request a paper check instead of the card if I hadn't activated it yet, or explained exactly what steps to take with the card issuer. Saved me hours of frustration!
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Ravi Choudhury
Pro tip from someone who deals with this every year (tax accountant here, though not YOUR tax accountant): Most tax refund cards have a bill pay feature that lets you "pay" your own bank account as if it were a bill. Clever workaround! π Just add your checking account as a payee using your account/routing numbers. Usually has higher limits than direct transfers and sometimes lower fees too. The banking system doesn't know or care that you're paying yourself.
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