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I reported a similar situation exactly 14 months ago. Here's what worked for me: 1. I documented 47 specific instances of suspicious activity over 6 months 2. I noted precise dates, times (9 of which were on weekends when the register was conveniently "broken") 3. I estimated amounts based on average customer spending ($75-125 per transaction) 4. I provided 3 witness statements (not required but strengthened my case) The IRS never confirmed they received my Form 3949-A, but approximately 8 months later, the business was closed for 3 weeks and reopened with new POS systems and proper receipts. So something definitely happened.

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Mia Green

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Just to add another perspective - I submitted Form 3949-A about 18 months ago for a restaurant that was clearly underreporting cash sales. A few key things I learned: 1. The IRS prefers specific patterns over isolated incidents. Your weekly observations of $2,500-3,000 over 3 years is exactly what they're looking for. 2. Don't overthink the documentation. The form is designed for concerned citizens, not forensic accountants. Your observations, dates, and estimates are sufficient. 3. Submit online through the IRS website if possible - it's faster than mail and you get an immediate confirmation number. 4. Keep a copy of everything for your records, but don't expect any follow-up communication. The business I reported eventually started using proper POS systems about 10 months later, though I'll never know if my report was the catalyst. The important thing is you're doing your civic duty by reporting suspected tax evasion. The IRS has the resources to investigate properly once they have reasonable suspicion.

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Zara Perez

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For what it's worth, I think the chances of getting audited solely because of a mortgage interest deduction mismatch are pretty low. I'm a landlord with multiple properties and have had situations where my deductions seem way out of proportion to my reported income. Never been audited once in 12 years.

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This is bad advice. Rental properties are completely different from personal mortgages when it comes to IRS scrutiny. They expect landlords to have large deductions relative to income. Personal mortgage interest is a totally different category.

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Debra Bai

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I went through something very similar about 3 years ago when my roommates bailed on our shared mortgage. The stress was unreal, but here's what I learned: the IRS really does focus on who actually made the payments, not just whose names are on paperwork. Keep detailed records of every payment you made - bank statements, online payment confirmations, even screenshots of your online banking. I created a simple spreadsheet showing each monthly payment with the date, amount, and payment method. This documentation was crucial when I got a CP2000 notice (not a full audit, just a matching discrepancy). One thing that helped me was getting a letter from my mortgage servicer confirming that all payments came from my account. Most servicers will provide this if you call and explain the situation. It's official documentation that supports your position. The reality is that mortgage interest deductions, even large ones, are pretty common and well-understood by the IRS. As long as you can prove you made the payments, you're entitled to the full deduction regardless of what your co-owners do with their 1098 forms. Just make sure you're prepared to back up your claim with solid documentation.

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Has anyone reported them to the IRS Office of Professional Responsibility? This kind of behavior reflects badly on the whole tax preparation industry and erodes public trust.

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Zara Ahmed

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Good point! The IRS OPR handles misconduct by tax professionals, but since this is a platform rather than individual preparers, you'd want to report them to the FTC for deceptive business practices instead. The IRS might still be interested though if the platform is enabling unethical behavior.

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Thanks for the clarification - I'll file a complaint with the FTC then. This whole situation is making me rethink using any of these platforms. Maybe going independent is better even if it means handling my own client acquisition.

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Jason Brewer

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This is exactly why I always tell new tax professionals to thoroughly research any platform before signing up. The red flags you mentioned - promises of high earnings without clear payment terms, mysterious client "cancellations" after work is completed, and that financial advisor deliberately preventing filings - are classic signs of exploitative business practices. As someone who's been in tax preparation for over a decade, I've seen legitimate platforms come and go, but the good ones always have transparent fee structures and pay for completed work regardless of filing status. The work product has value whether the client ultimately files or not. Document everything you can - emails, screenshots of their income promises, records of completed returns, communication with that financial advisor. This evidence will be crucial for your regulatory complaints. Also consider reaching out to other tax professionals who used the platform - you're probably not the only one experiencing this. The tax preparation industry needs to do better at protecting professionals from these predatory business models. Thanks for sharing your experience to warn others.

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Diego Fisher

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As someone new to tax preparation, this whole thread has been incredibly eye-opening. I almost signed up with a similar platform last month but decided to wait and research more first - thank goodness I did! @Jason Brewer, what specific questions should newcomers like me ask before joining any tax prep platform? I want to make sure I can spot these red flags early. Should I be asking for references from current tax professionals on their platform, or are there standard contract terms I should insist on? I'm particularly concerned about that "only paid for filed returns" clause that @Anastasia Sokolov mentioned. That seems like something that should be disclosed upfront in any marketing materials, not buried in fine print.

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Just to add one more important point that hasn't been fully covered - make sure you keep detailed records of your qualified education expenses! The IRS can ask for documentation to prove that your early withdrawal was indeed used for qualifying educational costs. Keep receipts for tuition, fees, books, supplies, and required equipment. If you're audited, you'll need to show that the withdrawal amount didn't exceed your actual qualified expenses for that tax year. Also, be aware that if you receive other tax-free educational benefits like scholarships or employer tuition assistance, those might reduce the amount you can claim as qualified expenses for the penalty exception. I'd recommend creating a dedicated folder (physical or digital) to store all education-related receipts and your 1099-R from Fidelity when you receive it. This will make tax filing much smoother and give you peace of mind that you have proper documentation.

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This is such an important point that I wish I had known earlier! I made an IRA withdrawal for my son's college expenses last year and just threw all the receipts in a shoebox. When I went to do my taxes, I realized I had no organized way to match up the withdrawal amount with the actual qualified expenses. One thing I learned is that you also need to be careful about timing - the qualified expenses need to be paid in the same tax year as the withdrawal, or in the case of expenses paid in the first three months of the following year, they can count toward the prior year's withdrawal. This timing rule can be tricky if you're withdrawing money late in the year for spring semester expenses. Also worth noting that room and board expenses can qualify, but only up to the school's official cost of attendance figures, not what you actually pay if you're living off-campus. The documentation requirements for room and board are a bit more complex than just keeping tuition receipts.

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Carmen Vega

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This is such a helpful discussion! I'm actually considering a similar situation but for graduate school expenses. One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is that you might want to check if your education expenses qualify for any education tax credits (like the American Opportunity Credit or Lifetime Learning Credit) in addition to using the IRA withdrawal penalty exception. However, there's an important catch: you can't "double-dip" on the same expenses. If you use your IRA withdrawal to pay for tuition that you're also claiming for an education tax credit, you need to reduce your qualified education expenses for the penalty exception by the amount you're claiming for the credit. This coordination between different tax benefits can get complicated, so it might be worth running the numbers both ways - sometimes it's better to skip the education credits and maximize your qualified expenses for the IRA penalty exception, especially if you're in a higher tax bracket where the penalty savings outweigh the credit benefits. Also, @Saleem Vaziri, since you mentioned you're working with Fidelity, they should be able to provide you with a worksheet that helps calculate exactly how much of your withdrawal will be taxable based on your contribution history. Don't hesitate to ask them for this - it's a standard service they provide for IRA distributions.

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Ev Luca

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This is exactly the kind of detailed advice I was hoping to find! The coordination between education tax credits and IRA penalty exceptions is something I never would have thought about on my own. I'm curious though - how do you actually calculate which approach gives you the better tax outcome? Is there a simple way to compare the value of avoiding the 10% penalty versus claiming something like the American Opportunity Credit? It seems like it would depend heavily on your specific tax situation and the amounts involved. Also, thanks for the tip about asking Fidelity for the worksheet! I had no idea they provided that service. That should definitely help me understand exactly what portion of my withdrawal will be taxable given my mix of deductible and non-deductible contributions over the years.

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Ruby Garcia

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Has anyone here considered the impact on your personal assets if the rental property turns out to be a bad investment? Using personal assets as collateral puts them at risk if the rental doesn't generate enough income to cover the LOC payments. I did this with my stock portfolio and regretted it when the rental market dipped in my area.

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This is such an important point! I used my home equity to buy a rental and when the tenants stopped paying during covid, I almost lost my primary residence. Maybe consider a conventional mortgage on the rental even if the rate is higher? Less risk to your personal assets.

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This is exactly why I'm proceeding cautiously with my plan. I'm only planning to use about 40% of my available credit line initially, which gives me a cushion if rental income doesn't meet expectations. I'm also keeping 6 months of LOC payments in cash reserves specifically for this scenario. The tax benefits are attractive, but you're absolutely right that protecting personal assets should be the priority. Have you considered using an LLC structure to add another layer of protection between your personal assets and the rental property?

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Great question about using a LOC secured by personal assets for rental property purchases! You're correct that the IRS focuses on the "use test" rather than what secures the loan. Just make sure you have rock-solid documentation showing the funds went directly from the LOC to the rental property purchase - bank statements, closing documents, etc. One additional consideration: if you're buying the rental in an LLC (which many recommend for liability protection), make sure the loan documents don't prohibit lending to LLCs or business entities. Some personal LOCs have restrictions on business use that could create issues down the road. Also, consider getting a letter from your tax professional confirming the deductibility structure before you proceed. It's much easier to set things up correctly from the start than to fix issues later. The interest deduction can be substantial over time, so it's worth getting the details right!

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