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Jade Santiago

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I'm a regular player on these social casinos and was disappointed to learn these aren't deductible! But it makes sense - I'm basically just buying entertainment. One thing to consider though - if you're a content creator or streamer who plays these games as part of your business, you might be able to deduct them as a business expense. That's what my accountant told me since I have a small YouTube channel where I review social casino games.

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Caleb Stone

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That's actually a really good point! What documentation do you keep to prove it's a business expense? Do you track which games you play for content vs personal entertainment?

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For business expense documentation, I keep detailed records of which purchases are for content creation vs personal play. I maintain a spreadsheet tracking the date, amount spent, which game, and whether it was for a video/review or just personal entertainment. I also save screenshots of the content I create using those games and keep receipts of all purchases. My accountant said the key is being able to show a clear business purpose - like creating reviews, tutorials, or entertainment content that generates income. You need to be able to demonstrate it's an ordinary and necessary expense for your content creation business, not just personal entertainment you happen to film.

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This is a great question that comes up a lot! The consensus here is correct - social casino purchases where you can't cash out real money are treated as entertainment expenses, not gambling losses. I've seen people get confused about this because it *feels* like gambling, but the IRS looks at whether there's actual monetary risk/reward. One thing I'd add is to be extra careful about record-keeping if you do have any legitimate gambling activities. The IRS can be pretty strict about documentation for gambling loss deductions, so you want to make sure you're not mixing entertainment expenses with actual gambling losses on your return. Keep those social casino receipts separate from any real gambling records to avoid any confusion during an audit. Also worth noting - if you're spending $2500+ on these games, you might want to consider whether that money could be better invested in tax-advantaged accounts like an IRA or 401k where you'd get actual tax benefits!

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Chloe Martin

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This is really helpful advice about keeping records separate! I'm new to all this tax stuff and didn't even think about the potential audit issues. Quick question - when you mention investing in tax-advantaged accounts instead, does that mean I should prioritize maxing out my IRA contributions before spending money on entertainment like these games? I'm trying to figure out the best order for my financial priorities.

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Do I need to update my W4 if I originally selected having 2 jobs but now only have 1 job?

I've been searching online but can't find a clear answer about my situation - Google just keeps showing me how to fill out a W4 when you HAVE two jobs. That's not what I need! Here's my situation: Last September I started a second job and when I filled out my W4 there, I checked the box saying I had 2 jobs. I didn't complete the multiple jobs worksheet or anything else special, just checked that box. My taxes seemed fine for this year. About 3 weeks ago, I quit my first job since my second employer offered me more hours and a better position. Now I'm wondering - do I need to submit a new W4 at my remaining job to show I only have one job now? Or will the withholding sort itself out automatically? I actually did fill out a new W4 and gave it to my boss who sent it to HR. They questioned why I was resubmitting it. I explained that when I had both jobs, federal tax was barely being taken from my paychecks at this job. I thought maybe my other job was withholding enough to cover everything (honestly this tax stuff confuses me). HR told me I just wasn't making enough for them to take out more. I just got my first paycheck after only working at this one job. Federal tax was withheld, but when I compared it to an old stub from my previous job (when I only had that one job), they took out about $25 more back then, even though the gross pay was only about 12 cents different. So I'm wondering if HR even processed my new W4. Bottom line: If you indicated having two jobs on your W4, and then drop one job, should you submit a new W4 at the remaining job? I don't claim dependents and I've never requested additional withholding - I've always just completed the basic info section on the W4.

Yes, you absolutely should update your W4 when you go from multiple jobs to one job! The "multiple jobs" checkbox changes how your withholding is calculated - it assumes you have additional income that needs to be accounted for, so it withholds more from each paycheck. Since you mentioned your pay stub still shows minimal federal withholding and HR questioned your resubmission, it sounds like they may not have processed your new W4 yet. I'd recommend being more direct with HR - explain that you previously had two jobs (which is why you checked that box originally), but now you only have one job, so your withholding needs to be recalculated. You can also double-check by looking at your pay stub for any codes like "MJ" (multiple jobs) in the filing status section. If it still shows that, then your new W4 definitely wasn't processed. The difference in withholding you noticed compared to your old job could be due to different payroll systems, pay periods, or benefit deductions, but getting your W4 situation sorted out should help normalize things. Don't let HR make you feel bad about updating your form - it's completely appropriate to submit a new W4 when your employment situation changes!

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Lara Woods

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This is such helpful advice! I'm dealing with a similar situation where I went from being a contractor with multiple clients to having just one W2 job, and I wasn't sure if I needed to update anything. Your explanation about the "MJ" code on pay stubs is really useful - I never knew to look for that. I'm curious though - if someone has been in this situation for several months already (like from the beginning of the tax year), would it be worth updating the W4 now or just wait until next year? I'm wondering if there's a point where it's too late in the year to make it worthwhile.

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It's definitely worth updating your W4 even late in the tax year! Every paycheck where you have the correct withholding puts more money in your pocket now instead of waiting for a refund next year. Think about it this way - if you're having an extra $50 withheld from each paycheck due to the incorrect "multiple jobs" setting, and you have 8 paychecks left in the year, that's $400 you could have in your bank account instead of giving the IRS an interest-free loan. Even if it's just a few months left, that extra cash flow can be really helpful, especially around the holidays. Plus, getting your W4 corrected now means you'll start next year with the right withholding from day one, rather than having to remember to fix it in January. I'd say go ahead and submit that updated W4 - there's really no downside to having accurate withholding!

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Evelyn Kim

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The as of date is literally the most useless thing ever invented by the IRS and thats saying something considering everything else they do 🤮

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Diego Fisher

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facts! might as well be reading tea leaves to predict when we'll get paid šŸ˜‚

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Dmitry Popov

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The "As Of" date is basically just the IRS's internal system timestamp - it updates automatically based on their processing cycles, not actual progress on your return. I've been through this same frustration multiple times. The date changing weekly is totally normal and doesn't indicate movement forward or backward on your refund. Focus on your actual processing date and cycle codes instead - those are way more meaningful than the As Of date which is essentially just computer housekeeping.

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ya'll need to stop obsessing over these dates fr. go touch some grass šŸ’…

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easy to say when u already got ur refund šŸ™„

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Ugh I feel your pain! My 'as of' date has been jumping around like crazy too - went from Feb 15 to March 1, then back to Feb 22, now it's at March 8. I was literally losing sleep over this until someone on here mentioned that AI transcript analyzer thing. Just tried taxr.ai and it actually broke down exactly what each date change meant for my specific situation. Turns out mine keeps changing because they're verifying my dependents, not because there's anything wrong. Finally have some peace of mind! Worth the few bucks just to stop the constant anxiety checking šŸ˜…

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Isaac Wright

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omg yes! the anxiety is real 😩 I've been checking mine obsessively too and my as of date literally changed 4 times this week. definitely gonna try that taxr thing because this guessing game is driving me insane. glad you finally got some answers!

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I've seen this happen before, and sometimes the issue isn't with the IRS processing but with how the amendment was prepared. Back in 2022, I had a similar situation where my amended return showed $0 adjustment because I had made an error in how I calculated the change. Have you considered getting a second opinion on your amendment from a tax professional? It might be worth paying for an hour of a CPA's time to review what you submitted. In my case, I had to submit a second amended return to correct the first one, which was a headache but eventually resolved the issue. Sometimes the DIY approach with amendments can lead to technical errors that aren't obvious to non-professionals.

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Josef Tearle

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This is actually a really good point about possibly needing to amend again. Did you prepare the amendment yourself or use a tax professional? Sometimes the forms can be tricky, especially if you're claiming additional credits or deductions that weren't on your original return.

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I'm going through something very similar right now! Filed my amended return in June and it's been showing that same frustrating $0 adjustment since September. What I've learned from talking to multiple IRS reps is that when your amendment involves claiming additional credits (especially CTC or EITC), it automatically triggers what they call an "identity verification review." The $0 is basically a placeholder while they verify you're eligible for the credits you're claiming. The really annoying part is that this review can take 16-20 weeks from the processing date, not the filing date. So even though yours was "processed" in September, the clock for the review period actually started then. As for the CTC payments stopping - that's standard procedure when there's any kind of review involving child-related credits. They pause all payments until the review is complete to avoid overpayments. I know it's incredibly frustrating, but from what I've seen in this community, most people eventually get their full refund once the review is complete. Hang in there!

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Nia Wilson

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This is really helpful information! I'm new to this community but dealing with a similar amended return situation. The 16-20 week timeline you mentioned from the processing date is something I hadn't heard before - that would explain why mine is taking so long too. I filed in May, it processed in August, so if I'm counting right, I might not see resolution until December or January? That's pretty discouraging but at least now I have realistic expectations. Did the IRS reps tell you if there's any way to speed up the identity verification review or if we just have to wait it out?

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