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Can online social casino losses be itemized as tax deductions?

Hey fellow tax nerds - so I recently got into these online social casinos (the ones where you buy coins but can't cash out real money). I've spent probably around $2500 on them so far this year and was wondering if I can deduct these losses when I itemize on my taxes? I know with regular gambling you can deduct losses up to the amount of your winnings, but since these social casinos aren't technically gambling (since you can't win real money), I'm confused about how this works for tax purposes. Has anyone dealt with this before or know the answer? Thanks!

These social casino purchases aren't deductible as gambling losses on your taxes. The IRS defines gambling losses as money lost in games where there's a chance to win actual money or prizes of value. Since social casinos don't allow you to cash out real money, they're considered entertainment expenses, not gambling. For regular gambling (casinos, sports betting, etc.), you can deduct losses up to the amount of your winnings, but only if you itemize deductions on Schedule A. You also need to keep detailed records of both wins and losses. But this doesn't apply to social casino purchases. Think of buying coins for social casinos like purchasing in-game currency for video games - it's just an entertainment expense, which isn't tax-deductible for individuals.

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Kaiya Rivera

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What if you occasionally win small prizes that they mail to you? Does that change anything? My aunt plays one of these games and sometimes gets Amazon gift cards when she wins big tournaments.

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If the social casino allows you to win actual prizes with monetary value like gift cards, that does change things. In that case, the prizes would be considered taxable gambling winnings and should be reported as "Other Income" on your tax return. Once you have reportable gambling winnings from these activities, then you can potentially deduct your losses (the money spent to buy coins) up to the amount of your winnings, but only if you itemize deductions on Schedule A. You'd need to keep very detailed records of both the amounts spent and any prizes received.

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My understanding is that for something to count as a gambling loss, you need the chance to win actual money or something with monetary value in return. Since these social casinos don't let you cash out real money, they're considered entertainment expenses - just like buying a movie ticket or a video game. Now if you were playing on sites that do allow real money gambling (and are legal in your jurisdiction), those losses would be deductible up to the amount of your winnings, but only if you itemize deductions rather than taking the standard deduction.

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Does anyone know if this applies to those sweepstakes casinos too? The ones where you can win "sweepstakes coins" that can be redeemed for cash? They claim they're not gambling but seems like a gray area.

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For sweepstakes casinos where you can redeem prizes for actual cash or monetary value, that's different from pure social casinos. Those would likely qualify as gambling for tax purposes since there's a monetary prize involved. In those cases, your winnings would be taxable as gambling income, and your losses (purchases) would potentially be deductible up to the amount of your winnings if you itemize deductions on Schedule A. The key distinction is whether you can receive something of monetary value in return for your play.

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Jade Santiago

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I'm a regular player on these social casinos and was disappointed to learn these aren't deductible! But it makes sense - I'm basically just buying entertainment. One thing to consider though - if you're a content creator or streamer who plays these games as part of your business, you might be able to deduct them as a business expense. That's what my accountant told me since I have a small YouTube channel where I review social casino games.

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Caleb Stone

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That's actually a really good point! What documentation do you keep to prove it's a business expense? Do you track which games you play for content vs personal entertainment?

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For business expense documentation, I keep detailed records of which purchases are for content creation vs personal play. I maintain a spreadsheet tracking the date, amount spent, which game, and whether it was for a video/review or just personal entertainment. I also save screenshots of the content I create using those games and keep receipts of all purchases. My accountant said the key is being able to show a clear business purpose - like creating reviews, tutorials, or entertainment content that generates income. You need to be able to demonstrate it's an ordinary and necessary expense for your content creation business, not just personal entertainment you happen to film.

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Javier Torres

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This is a great question that comes up a lot! The consensus here is correct - social casino purchases where you can't cash out real money are treated as entertainment expenses, not gambling losses. I've seen people get confused about this because it *feels* like gambling, but the IRS looks at whether there's actual monetary risk/reward. One thing I'd add is to be extra careful about record-keeping if you do have any legitimate gambling activities. The IRS can be pretty strict about documentation for gambling loss deductions, so you want to make sure you're not mixing entertainment expenses with actual gambling losses on your return. Keep those social casino receipts separate from any real gambling records to avoid any confusion during an audit. Also worth noting - if you're spending $2500+ on these games, you might want to consider whether that money could be better invested in tax-advantaged accounts like an IRA or 401k where you'd get actual tax benefits!

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Chloe Martin

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This is really helpful advice about keeping records separate! I'm new to all this tax stuff and didn't even think about the potential audit issues. Quick question - when you mention investing in tax-advantaged accounts instead, does that mean I should prioritize maxing out my IRA contributions before spending money on entertainment like these games? I'm trying to figure out the best order for my financial priorities.

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