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Keisha Brown

Can a US citizen claim gambling losses on taxes for online gambling sites that aren't technically allowed?

So I've been in this weird situation lately. Last year I started gambling on some offshore sites (because they had better payouts). I won some decent money at first but then hit a real bad streak. I'm down about $4,700 overall for the year. Now that tax season is approaching, I'm wondering if I can deduct these losses against the wins I had. I know normally gambling losses can offset gambling income on Schedule A, but since these sites operate in a gray area legally in the US, I'm not sure if I can claim these losses without getting into trouble. The sites did send me some kind of earnings statement, but it's not an official W-2G or anything like that. I'm planning to report the winnings because I don't want problems with the IRS, but can I also claim the losses? Has anyone dealt with this before? Trying to do the right thing tax-wise without creating problems for myself.

This is actually a relatively common question. The IRS cares about your income, not necessarily how you earned it. Even illegal income must be reported on taxes (think about drug dealers who get caught for tax evasion, not just drug dealing). For gambling specifically, you're required to report all gambling winnings as income, regardless of whether the gambling activity was legal or not. And yes, you can deduct your gambling losses, but only up to the amount of your gambling winnings, and only if you itemize deductions on Schedule A. The tricky part isn't whether you can legally deduct the losses - you can. The challenge is documentation. You need to keep good records of your gambling activity - dates, types of gambling, amounts won/lost, location, etc. Without proper documentation, the IRS could disallow your deduction if you're audited.

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Amina Toure

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But wouldn't reporting losses from illegal gambling sites be basically admitting to the IRS that you broke the law? Couldn't they report you to other authorities?

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The IRS generally doesn't share your tax information with other agencies for regulatory purposes. Their main concern is collecting the proper amount of tax, not enforcing gambling regulations. That said, there's a difference between "not legally available in your state" versus outright illegal gambling. Many offshore sites operate in a gray area - they're licensed somewhere, just not in the US. This is different from, say, an underground poker game run by organized crime.

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FireflyDreams

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Does this service actually understand the difference between offshore gambling sites and regulated ones? I've got mixed activity and want to make sure everything is reported correctly.

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But can they really help with sites that don't provide proper tax forms? My offshore site just gives me a transaction history but nothing official for taxes.

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Emma Anderson

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Something that hasn't been mentioned yet - if you do decide to claim these losses, make sure you're using the right form and method. Gambling losses go on Schedule A as itemized deductions, but ONLY if you're also itemizing other deductions that exceed the standard deduction. If you take the standard deduction (which most people do), you unfortunately can't also claim gambling losses. This trips up a lot of people.

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Keisha Brown

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Thanks for mentioning this! I was assuming I could just deduct the losses separately. So if my total itemized deductions (including these gambling losses) don't exceed the standard deduction amount, there's no tax benefit to claiming the losses at all?

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That's correct. If your total itemized deductions (mortgage interest, state/local taxes, charitable donations, and gambling losses, etc.) don't exceed the standard deduction ($13,850 for single filers in 2023), then there's no tax benefit to claiming the gambling losses. This is why some regular gamblers make sure to track both their winnings AND losses carefully. The winnings get added to your income regardless, but the losses can only offset that if you itemize.

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CosmicVoyager

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Has anyone had experience with sports betting specifically on these offshore sites? I've heard those might be treated differently than casino games for tax purposes.

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Ravi Kapoor

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I did some sports betting on offshore sites last year. From what my accountant told me, the IRS doesn't distinguish between types of gambling (sports vs poker vs slots) for tax purposes. It's all considered gambling income/losses. The important thing is documentation.

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