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Morgan Washington

Lost $4000 overall gambling but still have to pay taxes on my winnings?

I had what I thought was a pretty rough year with sports betting. Over the last 12 months, I won about $6000 on various games, but ended up losing $10,000 total, putting me at a net loss of $4000 for the year. The problem is, I'm realizing I might still have to pay taxes on the $6000 I won even though I'm in the hole overall. I don't own any property and have nothing to itemize on my taxes. I've looked into getting creative with deductions while staying legal, but can't find enough to justify itemizing instead of taking the standard deduction. So it looks like I'm stuck paying taxes on the full $6000 in winnings when I actually lost $4000 overall. This seems completely unfair. Anyone dealt with this gambling tax situation before? Any suggestions on how to handle this for the 2025 filing season?

Kaylee Cook

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Unfortunately, this is exactly how gambling taxes work. The IRS requires you to report all gambling winnings as taxable income on your tax return. Gambling losses can only be deducted if you itemize deductions on Schedule A, and even then, you can only deduct losses up to the amount of your winnings. Since you don't have enough other deductions to make itemizing worthwhile, you're in that frustrating situation where you have to pay tax on the $6000 even though you had a net loss for the year. It's one of those tax situations that seems particularly unfair, but that's how the code is written. One thing to check - make sure you received a Form W-2G for any large winnings. If the sports betting platform didn't withhold taxes, you might need to make estimated tax payments to avoid underpayment penalties.

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So basically there's no way around this? That seems so wrong. What if I just... don't report the winnings? The sports betting apps I use haven't sent me any tax forms.

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Kaylee Cook

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You are legally required to report all gambling winnings even if you don't receive a W-2G. Not reporting income is tax evasion and can lead to penalties, interest, and potentially worse if the IRS discovers the unreported income. The threshold for receiving a W-2G varies by type of gambling, but gambling platforms often report large payouts to the IRS through other means. The IRS can match this information against your return. Many online platforms are now required to report transactions, so there's an increasing digital trail of gambling activity.

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Lara Woods

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Lara Woods

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Lydia Bailey

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Have you considered tracking your gambling sessions differently next year? I'm not a tax professional, but I've heard that if you track your gambling by "sessions" rather than individual bets, it might help. For example, if you go to a casino and play for 4 hours, you'd record the net win/loss for the entire session rather than each bet. This wouldn't help for this tax year, but might be worth looking into for next year's gambling activities. Might want to consult a tax pro who specializes in gambling income though to make sure you're doing it right.

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Thanks for the suggestion. How exactly would I need to document these "sessions" for it to be valid for tax purposes? Would online gambling work the same way?

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Lydia Bailey

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You'd want to keep detailed records of each gambling session including date, location, type of gambling, when session began and ended, and the amount you started with and ended with. For online gambling, each time you log in and out could potentially be considered a separate session. The key is consistency in your record-keeping and being able to prove your system if questioned. Some people use a gambling log or diary where they record all this information. Make sure to save all receipts, tickets, statements or other documentation that supports your log. Take screenshots of your online account activity too as additional proof.

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Mateo Warren

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Honestly, the gambling tax rules are so outdated. They were designed when gambling meant going to a casino or racetrack, not the digital age where people can place dozens of bets from their phone. The tax code needs to catch up with technology. I've been in your shoes. Started tracking everything meticulously the next year. It's a pain but it helps if you ever get audited. At least keep the yearly statements from your betting apps showing total deposits and withdrawals.

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Sofia Price

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Agreed! I even wrote to my congressman about this issue. The current system totally favors the house and the government, not the taxpayer. Why should we pay taxes on money we never actually made?

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Alice Coleman

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This seems to be a common problem with gambling taxation. Instead of focusing on this year, my advice is to plan better for next year. If you're going to continue gambling, make sure you have enough other potential itemized deductions (medical expenses, charitable donations, etc.) so that if you end up with losses, you can at least deduct them by itemizing. Also, remember that gambling should be for entertainment, not income. Budget for it as an entertainment expense, and any winnings should be considered a bonus, not expected income.

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Marcus Marsh

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I went through this exact same nightmare two years ago! Lost about $3,500 overall but had to pay taxes on $5,200 in winnings. What made it worse was that I got hit with underpayment penalties because I didn't make quarterly estimated payments on the winnings. Here's what I learned the hard way: if you're going to continue gambling, set aside about 25-30% of any winnings immediately for taxes, even if you're down overall for the year. That way you won't get caught off guard when tax time comes. Also, start keeping a detailed gambling diary NOW for next year. Date, location/platform, activity type, amount wagered, amount won/lost. The IRS loves documentation, and if you ever get audited, having meticulous records will save you. I use a simple spreadsheet and update it after every session. The system is definitely unfair, but understanding how it works helps you plan better. Good luck with your filing!

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Ethan Wilson

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This is really helpful advice, especially about setting aside money for taxes on winnings even when you're losing overall. I'm new to this whole gambling tax situation and didn't realize you could get hit with underpayment penalties too. That's just adding insult to injury! Quick question - when you say keep a gambling diary, should I also be saving screenshots from the apps showing my betting history? I'm worried about having enough documentation if the IRS ever questions anything. The whole system seems designed to trip people up who are just trying to follow the rules.

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