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Yara Haddad

How do sports betting taxes work for a net loss but big individual wins?

I just got hit with an audit letter from the IRS for my 2021 taxes saying I owe almost $11,000 in taxes on gambling winnings of around $30,000. These winnings came from 5 different jackpots at the casino, with payouts ranging from $1,600 up to $14,500. Here's the problem - even with these 5 big wins, I actually ended up with a net LOSS of about $10,200 for the entire year of gambling. I'm completely confused. How can I owe taxes on "winnings" when I actually lost money overall for the year? Is this normal or did the IRS make a mistake? Do I really need to pay taxes on individual big wins even though my yearly gambling activity resulted in a loss? What options do I have here? I kept a gambling log and have all my players club records showing my total activity.

This is actually a common confusion with gambling taxes. The IRS requires casinos to report individual wins of $1,200 or more on slot machines via W-2G forms. Those forms get sent to both you and the IRS. However, the casino has no way to track or report your losses. The good news is that you CAN deduct your gambling losses, but only as an itemized deduction on Schedule A, and only up to the amount of your winnings. Since you have documentation of your overall gambling activity, you should be able to offset those reported winnings. The key is that you need to itemize deductions rather than taking the standard deduction. If your total itemized deductions (including gambling losses) exceed your standard deduction, this might work out fine. If not, you might still end up paying some tax on those "winnings" even though you had a net loss.

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Yara Haddad

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Thanks for explaining this. So basically I need to file Schedule A instead of taking the standard deduction? My worry is that my other itemized deductions are pretty minimal - just some mortgage interest and about $4,000 in charitable donations. The standard deduction in 2021 was what, around $12,500 for a single filer? Also, do I need to file an amended return for 2021 now or just respond to this audit letter with my documentation?

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Yes, you'd need to file Schedule A and itemize to claim those gambling losses. For 2021, the standard deduction was $12,550 for single filers. If your mortgage interest, charitable donations, and other potential deductions plus your gambling losses don't exceed that amount, then unfortunately you would still have a tax impact from the reported winnings. In response to the audit letter, you should provide your documentation showing the gambling losses. Don't file an amended return yet - first respond to the audit with your documentation and explanation. The IRS letter should specify exactly how to respond. Make sure to include your detailed gambling log, player's card statements, bank statements showing withdrawals at casinos, and any other evidence you have of your overall gambling activity.

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Paolo Conti

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Amina Sow

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Did you have to provide lots of documentation? I'm in a similar situation but I only kept some of my receipts and maybe half of my ATM withdrawal slips from the casino. Does taxr.ai work with partial records or do you need complete documentation?

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GalaxyGazer

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Paolo Conti

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Emma Thompson

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One important thing nobody has mentioned yet - make sure you have a session-by-session record of your gambling, not just an annual summary. The IRS technically requires you to document your gambling activity by session (meaning each time you visited the casino, not just your annual totals). I recommend creating a spreadsheet with dates, locations, types of gambling, amounts wagered, winnings, and losses for each visit. This level of detail really helps during an audit. Your players club records will help, but they don't always capture everything, especially if you gambled at multiple casinos or did any sports betting.

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Yara Haddad

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This is really helpful info. Do you know if there's a specific IRS form or format they prefer for documenting gambling sessions? I have most of this info in my records but not organized in any special way.

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Emma Thompson

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There's no specific IRS form for documenting your gambling sessions. The key is consistency and detail. I use a simple spreadsheet with columns for: Date, Casino/Location, Type of Gambling (slots, poker, sports betting, etc.), Amount Wagered, Amount Won, Amount Lost, and Net Gain/Loss for the session. Make sure to include those big jackpots that generated W-2Gs, noting them specifically in your records. The more your documentation aligns with the W-2Gs the IRS received, the more credible your overall record keeping will appear. Also include any supporting documentation like hotel folios if you traveled to gamble, ATM receipts showing withdrawals at casinos, and credit card statements showing casino charges. The goal is to create a comprehensive picture of your gambling activity that explains both the reported winnings and your overall losses.

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Malik Davis

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Just a heads up - the rules are different for professional gamblers vs. recreational gamblers. If gambling is your primary occupation and source of income, you'd report it differently on Schedule C instead of Schedule A, and you wouldn't face the same limitations on deducting losses. But be careful claiming to be a professional gambler! The IRS has strict criteria and will scrutinize this closely. You need to be able to prove you approach gambling as a business with the intention of making a profit, keep extremely detailed records, and spend substantial time gambling (like it's your job).

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Do professional gamblers have to pay self-employment tax? I'm curious because I've been winning pretty consistently at poker for the last few years and wondering if I should be filing differently.

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