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Nia Williams

Need help understanding win/loss statement for slot machine gambling

So last year I hit a crazy gambling streak and ended up with about $200,000 in taxable slot machine jackpots. Every time I won over $1200, the casino gave me a W-2G. When I finally got my win/loss statement from the player's club, it shows I actually have a net LOSS of $52,000 after accounting for all those taxable winnings. I'm trying to figure out my tax situation here. Since I technically lost all my winnings PLUS an additional $52K out of pocket, can I deduct the entire amount of my jackpots on my taxes? It seems unfair that I have to pay taxes on "winnings" when I actually lost money overall for the year. I've been reading about gambling loss deductions but I'm confused about how this works with the win/loss statement. Any advice would be super appreciated!

Luca Ricci

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This is a common misconception about gambling winnings and losses. Here's how it works: You must report the full $200,000 of jackpot winnings as income on your tax return. The IRS requires this regardless of your overall gambling results. As for deductions, you can only deduct gambling losses up to the amount of your gambling winnings, and only if you itemize deductions on Schedule A. So in your case, you could potentially deduct $200,000 in losses (not $252,000), effectively canceling out the tax on your winnings. Keep in mind that your win/loss statement is helpful documentation, but the IRS also likes to see a detailed gambling log showing dates, locations, types of gambling, and amounts won and lost. This is especially important with large amounts like yours.

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Nia Williams

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Thanks for the explanation! So even though I lost $52,000 more than I won, I can only deduct up to the $200,000 that I report as income? Does that mean I basically get no tax benefit for that extra $52k I lost?

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Luca Ricci

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That's exactly right. You can only deduct gambling losses up to the amount of your reported gambling winnings. The additional $52,000 in losses beyond your winnings cannot be deducted or carried forward to future tax years. This is why professional gamblers often elect to file as a business on Schedule C instead, where they can report the net amount. But casual gamblers must report all winnings as income and deduct losses (up to the winning amount) as itemized deductions on Schedule A.

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Something important that hasn't been mentioned yet - if you're deducting gambling losses, make sure you understand AMTI (Alternative Minimum Tax Income) implications. In some cases, large gambling wins and offsetting losses can trigger AMT, which can cause unexpected tax consequences.

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Nia Williams

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Could you explain more about this AMT issue? I've never heard of this before and now I'm worried there might be another tax hit coming my way.

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AMT (Alternative Minimum Tax) can come into play because gambling losses are itemized deductions which are added back when calculating your AMTI (Alternative Minimum Tax Income). So while your regular tax calculation might show the losses offsetting the winnings, the AMT calculation may not give you the same benefit. This is more likely to affect you if you have other AMT adjustment items or if your income is already in a range where AMT might apply. It's somewhat complex, so if you're dealing with large gambling numbers like yours, I'd strongly recommend consulting with a tax professional who has experience with gambling taxation specifically.

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Jamal Edwards

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Has anyone had experience with casinos rejecting or refusing to provide detailed win/loss statements? My local casino only gave me a summary statement without individual session details, and I'm worried the IRS won't accept it.

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Mei Chen

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I had this issue last year. What worked for me was keeping a detailed gambling diary with session dates, times, machines played, and approximate amounts. I also kept all my ATM receipts from the casino and bank statements showing withdrawals. When I combined these with even a basic win/loss statement, my tax preparer said it provided sufficient documentation.

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Jamal Edwards

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That's really helpful, thanks! I do have my bank statements showing ATM withdrawals at the casino, but I haven't been keeping a session diary. Do you think starting one now for future gambling would help with this current tax year, or am I too late?

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Liam Murphy

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For this current tax year, you'll need to work with what you have. Try to reconstruct as much detail as possible using your bank statements, ATM receipts, and any other records you might have saved (credit card statements, player's club statements, etc.). Even if it's not perfect, showing the IRS that you made a good faith effort to maintain records is important. Going forward, definitely start keeping that detailed gambling diary! The IRS Publication 529 specifically mentions that contemporaneous records are the best documentation. You can use a simple notebook or even a smartphone app to track dates, locations, types of games, amounts wagered, and results for each session. This will make your life much easier come next tax season.

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Jason Brewer

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Just wanted to add another perspective on the documentation requirements. I work as a tax preparer and see gambling situations like this frequently. Beyond the win/loss statement from the casino, the IRS really values what they call "contemporaneous records" - meaning records kept at the time of the gambling activity, not reconstructed later. If you don't have detailed session logs, try to gather supporting evidence like: - Credit card statements showing charges at the casino - Hotel receipts if you stayed overnight during gambling trips - Photos of yourself at the casino (many people take these nowadays) - Text messages or social media posts mentioning wins/losses - Any comp records or player's club point statements The key is showing a pattern that supports your win/loss statement. With $200K in reportable winnings, the IRS will definitely scrutinize your deductions, so having multiple types of documentation will strengthen your position significantly. Also, given the complexity of your situation with the AMT implications mentioned earlier, I'd strongly recommend working with a tax professional who has specific experience with gambling taxation rather than trying to navigate this alone.

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Jay Lincoln

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This is incredibly helpful advice! I never thought about using things like social media posts or photos as supporting documentation. I actually do have some photos from my big winning nights that I shared on Instagram, and I definitely have hotel receipts from my casino trips. One question though - when you mention working with a tax professional experienced in gambling taxation, how do I find someone like that? Is this something I should specifically ask about when calling tax preparers, or is there a certification or specialty I should look for? Given the amounts involved and the AMT complications that were mentioned earlier, I'm definitely feeling like this is over my head for DIY tax prep.

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