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Anastasia Popova

How to properly report gambling losses when I had a net loss for the year?

Quick question for any tax experts out there - I'm confused about reporting gambling winnings/losses since I ended up with a net loss for the entire year. For 2023, I received a W2-G from DraftKings for $425,000 in winnings. My win/loss statement for the year shows I wagered $1,625,876 total and only got back $1,604,649. So overall, I lost about $21,227 gambling for the year. Do I just report the W2-G amount on my taxes? Or do I need to report both the W2-G amount AND the additional $1,179,649 (total returned minus W2-G amount) somewhere else on my return? I'm a little lost on how to handle this properly since I technically lost money overall.

Sean Flanagan

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The IRS requires you to report ALL gambling winnings as income on your tax return, even if you had a net loss for the year. So yes, you need to report the full $425,000 from your W2-G on Schedule 1 as "Other Income." The good news is you can also deduct your gambling losses, but only if you itemize deductions on Schedule A (instead of taking the standard deduction). You can deduct losses up to the amount of your winnings - in your case, that's the full $425,000 since your total losses exceeded that amount. Keep in mind that you'll need proper documentation of all your gambling activities - your win/loss statement is a good start, but you should also keep a gambling diary/log with specific details about your gambling sessions.

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Zara Shah

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Thanks for the explanation! Quick follow-up question - if I choose to take the standard deduction instead of itemizing, does that mean I'd have to pay taxes on the full $425k without being able to deduct any of my losses? That seems unfair if I actually lost money gambling for the year.

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Sean Flanagan

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Yes, unfortunately that's exactly right. If you take the standard deduction, you cannot deduct gambling losses at all. You'd still have to report and pay taxes on the full $425,000 in winnings. That's why many people with substantial gambling activity end up itemizing deductions even if their other deductions are below the standard deduction threshold. You'll need to calculate which approach results in the lower tax liability for your specific situation.

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StarStrider

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Don't forget that different states have different rules for reporting gambling winnings and losses! Federal tax law is one thing, but your state might handle this differently. Some states don't allow gambling loss deductions at all even if you itemize federally. Others have different thresholds. Make sure you check your specific state's rules.

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Yuki Sato

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Do you know if there's a good resource that lists all the different state rules in one place? I've been gambling in multiple states and I'm so confused about how to handle all of this.

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StarStrider

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I don't know of a single resource that covers all states, unfortunately. Your best bet is to go directly to each state's department of revenue website and search for gambling or W2-G reporting guidelines. Some tax software also has state-specific guidance built in, but I've found it's sometimes outdated or incomplete for gambling specifically.

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Carmen Ruiz

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One thing that really helped me with a similar situation was keeping a detailed gambling diary throughout the year. I record the date, location, type of gambling, who I was with, amounts won/lost, etc. My accountant said this kind of documentation is super important if you ever get audited - the IRS can be really strict about gambling deductions without proper records. Has anyone used any good apps for tracking gambling sessions? I've been using a spreadsheet but it's getting unwieldy.

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Sofia Perez

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This is such a common confusion for people with gambling activities! I went through the exact same thing a couple years ago when I had a big win early in the year but ended up net negative overall. Just to clarify what others have said - you absolutely must report that full $425,000 as income regardless of your net loss. It's counterintuitive but that's how the tax code works. The W2-G triggers the reporting requirement. One thing I'd add is make sure you understand the "session" vs "annual" reporting difference. Some people think they can net wins and losses within the same day or session, but that's not how it works for tax purposes. Every individual win over the reporting threshold gets reported as income. Also, since you're dealing with such large amounts, you might want to consider making estimated tax payments if you haven't already. Even if you plan to deduct the losses, you could face underpayment penalties if you don't have enough withholding to cover the tax on that $425k. Have you calculated whether itemizing (to claim the gambling losses) would actually be better than the standard deduction in your case? With losses that large, it probably makes sense, but worth running the numbers both ways.

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This is really helpful context about the "session" vs "annual" reporting - I didn't realize you couldn't net wins and losses within the same gambling session for tax purposes. That seems like it could create some weird situations where you have multiple small wins and losses throughout a day. Regarding estimated payments, that's a great point I hadn't considered. Even though I ended up with a net loss for the year, I should probably make estimated payments on that $425k to avoid penalties, right? Then when I file my return and claim the gambling loss deductions, I'd get a refund for the overpayment? I did run the numbers and itemizing definitely makes sense in my case - my gambling losses alone would be way more than the standard deduction, plus I have some other itemizable expenses. Just want to make sure I'm not missing any other gotchas with this situation.

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NebulaNomad

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I've been dealing with gambling tax issues for years and wanted to share a few additional tips that might help: First, regarding your question about reporting both the W2-G amount AND the additional winnings - you only report what's on your W2-G forms as income. The additional $1,179,649 you mentioned doesn't get reported separately as income since you didn't receive tax documents for those amounts. However, when calculating your gambling loss deduction (if you itemize), you can include ALL your losses for the year - not just losses related to the W2-G activity. So your total gambling losses of $425,000+ can be deducted against your total gambling winnings. A couple of important things to remember: - Keep ALL your records - win/loss statements, receipts, bank records showing deposits/withdrawals to gambling accounts, travel expenses if you went to casinos, etc. - The IRS considers gambling losses to include not just the money you lost betting, but also expenses directly related to your gambling activities - If you do get audited, they'll want to see detailed records that support both your winnings AND your losses Given the amounts involved here, I'd strongly recommend consulting with a tax professional who has experience with gambling taxation. The rules can be tricky and the stakes are high enough that professional guidance would be worth the cost.

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