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Gavin King

How to calculate gambling loss with w-2 winnings for tax purposes?

I'm having trouble understanding how to properly report my gambling activities for tax purposes. The IRS info about tracking gambling winnings and losses is confusing me. I know that I can only deduct losses if I itemize deductions, and only up to the amount I won. But I'm struggling with how to calculate the actual losses. Let me give you an example of what happened: Visit 1: Started with: $6,500 Hit a jackpot with W-2G: $19,000 Left the casino with: $12,800 Visit 2: Started with: $6,500 Left with: $0 (lost it all) In this situation, I know my reportable winnings would be $19,000 from the W-2G. But what would my deductible losses be? For Visit 1, I actually walked away with more than I came with, but the $19K gets reported as income. And then I lost everything on Visit 2. Is my loss for Visit 1 considered $12,700 (the difference between my jackpot and what I left with)? And then another $6,500 for Visit 2? Or am I calculating this all wrong? This is my first year dealing with gambling wins/losses on my taxes and I don't want to mess it up.

Nathan Kim

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The way gambling wins and losses work for tax purposes can definitely be confusing! Let me break it down for you. Your W-2G for $19,000 must be reported as income on your tax return. But for your losses, you need to look at your total gambling activity for the year, not just by individual visit. For Visit 1: You brought in $6,500, won $19,000 on a jackpot, and left with $12,800. This means you actually lost $12,700 of your winnings during that same session. For Visit 2: You brought in $6,500 and lost it all, so that's a $6,500 loss. Your total losses would be $12,700 + $6,500 = $19,200. However, since you can only deduct losses up to the amount of your winnings, you would be limited to deducting $19,000 (your W-2G amount) if you itemize deductions on Schedule A. Make sure you keep good records of all gambling activities - session dates, locations, types of gambling, and amounts won and lost. The IRS may ask for this documentation if you're audited.

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Quick question - does it matter if these gambling sessions were spread across different casinos? Or if some were at casinos and others were online poker? Do I need to track each type separately?

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Nathan Kim

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It doesn't matter if your gambling sessions were at different casinos or even different types of gambling activities. The IRS considers all gambling activities together when calculating your total winnings and losses for the year. You should still track each session separately in your records, noting the location, type of gambling, and amounts. This detailed record-keeping is important if you're ever audited, but when it comes to your tax return, you'll report the combined total of all gambling activities.

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Don't forget you need to keep a detailed gambling log if you're going to deduct losses! The IRS requires: - Date and type of gambling - Name and address of the gambling establishment - Names of other people with you - Amount won or lost I learned this the hard way when I got audited in 2023. Having just win/loss statements from the casino wasn't enough - they wanted to see my detailed contemporaneous log. I lost thousands in deductions because I couldn't provide proper documentation.

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Gavin King

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Thanks for this advice! Would bank statements showing ATM withdrawals at casinos help support my gambling activity? I usually take out cash right at the casino before playing.

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Bank statements showing ATM withdrawals at casinos can definitely help support your gambling activity and are good supplementary evidence. However, they won't be sufficient on their own. The IRS really wants to see that contemporaneous log showing specific details of each gambling session. Your bank statements can corroborate your log by showing that you withdrew money at the casino on the same dates you recorded gambling activity. The combination of your detailed log plus bank statements creates a stronger documentation package if you're ever audited.

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Lara Woods

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I'm confused about something - if I win a jackpot but then lose most of it during the same session, do I still have to report the full jackpot amount? Seems unfair if I walk out with less than I won but get taxed on the whole W-2G amount.

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Adrian Hughes

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Yes, unfortunately you still have to report the full W-2G amount as income. The casino is required to report that to the IRS. But you can deduct your losses up to the amount of your winnings if you itemize deductions on Schedule A. So while you report the full jackpot, you might be able to offset it with your documented losses.

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This is a great question that many people struggle with! I went through something similar last year and want to share what I learned from my tax preparer. You're absolutely right that the W-2G amount of $19,000 must be reported as income. For your losses, you need to think about it session by session: Visit 1: You started with $6,500, won $19,000, but only left with $12,800. This means during that session, you actually lost $12,700 of your winnings after hitting the jackpot. Visit 2: You brought $6,500 and lost it all = $6,500 loss. Your total gambling losses for the year would be $19,200 ($12,700 + $6,500). Since you can only deduct losses up to your winnings, you'd be limited to deducting $19,000 if you itemize. The key thing to remember is that you report the full W-2G as income, but then you can offset most or all of it with your documented losses if you have proper records. Make sure you keep detailed logs of each gambling session - date, location, amounts won/lost, and any supporting documentation like ATM receipts or player's club statements. It does seem unfair at first, but the system allows you to essentially break even tax-wise if you have good records of your losses.

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Kaiya Rivera

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This is really helpful, thank you! I'm new to dealing with gambling taxes and was getting overwhelmed by all the different advice out there. Your breakdown makes it much clearer how the math works. One follow-up question - when you say "proper records," does that mean I need to write everything down while I'm at the casino? Or can I reconstruct my gambling log later using bank statements and receipts? I wasn't keeping detailed records during my sessions, but I do have ATM receipts and some player's club statements.

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Justin Trejo

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Great question! Ideally, you should keep contemporaneous records (written at the time), but the IRS does understand that many people don't think to do this initially. You can reconstruct your gambling log using the documentation you have - ATM receipts, player's club statements, bank records, etc. The key is to be as accurate and detailed as possible when reconstructing. Use your ATM receipts to establish when and where you gambled, and your bank statements to show cash withdrawals. Player's club statements are particularly valuable because they often show your actual gambling activity at specific machines or tables. When you create your reconstructed log, include dates, locations, approximate start/end times, amounts brought to the casino, amounts won or lost, and reference the supporting documentation you have for each session. The IRS prefers contemporaneous records, but they will accept reconstructed logs if they're supported by third-party documentation and appear reasonable and consistent. Just make sure you're being honest and conservative in your estimates - don't try to inflate your losses beyond what you can reasonably support with your documentation.

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Ava Thompson

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One thing I'd add that hasn't been mentioned yet - if you're a frequent gambler, consider setting up a separate bank account just for gambling activities. This makes tracking so much easier come tax time. I started doing this after my first year dealing with W-2Gs became a nightmare to sort through. Now I only use that account for casino ATM withdrawals and any gambling-related deposits. At the end of the year, I can easily see my total gambling activity just by looking at the account statements. It also helps with the IRS documentation requirements since you have a clear paper trail that's separate from your regular spending. My tax preparer loves it because it makes calculating my net gambling position much more straightforward. For your specific situation with the $19k W-2G, having this kind of clean record-keeping would make it obvious exactly how much you lost in each session. Might be worth setting up for next year if you plan to continue gambling regularly.

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