< Back to IRS

Keisha Williams

Losing money despite gambling winnings due to taxes? Can't deduct the wager?

So I've been playing at casinos more this year and I'm completely confused about the tax situation. I've read that the amount you get taxed for gambling winnings include the wager (i.e. can't deduct the initial bet from the win). If that's true, it seems like I could actually LOSE money overall but still owe taxes. For example, if I bet $100 and win $1200, that's a $1100 profit. But the casino reports the full $1200 as winnings, right? Not just my profit? Then if I lose $1500 on other bets throughout the year, I'm down $400 total but still owe taxes on that $1200 win?? This makes no sense to me! Can someone explain if I'm understanding this correctly? I'm really worried because I've had a few big slot wins where they gave me a W-2G, but overall I've probably lost more than I've won this year. Am I going to owe a bunch in taxes even though I'm actually down money??

Paolo Rizzo

•

You're right to be concerned, but there's good news! The tax code does allow you to deduct gambling losses - with some important limitations. The key thing to understand is that gambling winnings are indeed reported as income (like those W-2G forms you received for larger wins). However, you can deduct your gambling losses as an itemized deduction on Schedule A, up to the amount of your winnings. The catch is that you must itemize deductions to claim gambling losses - you can't take the standard deduction AND deduct gambling losses. So if your total itemized deductions (including gambling losses) don't exceed your standard deduction, you might still end up paying tax on winnings despite being at a net loss. Another important point: you need to keep good records of BOTH your wins and losses. This means saving betting tickets, receipts, bank withdrawals/deposits, player's card statements, and a diary of your gambling activities. The IRS loves to scrutinize gambling loss deductions, so documentation is essential.

0 coins

Amina Sy

•

Wait, if I only get W-2Gs for big wins, but have tons of smaller unreported wins and losses, what happens then? Do I need to report all the small wins too even if the casino doesn't?

0 coins

Paolo Rizzo

•

Yes, technically all gambling winnings are taxable income regardless of whether you receive a W-2G. The W-2G is only issued when wins exceed certain thresholds (like $1,200 for slots), but the IRS expects you to report all gambling income. For those smaller wins, this is where your record-keeping becomes crucial. Many gamblers maintain a session-based log where they track their starting and ending amounts for each gambling session. This doesn't mean tracking every single pull of a slot machine, but rather documenting your net result for each visit or session.

0 coins

After struggling with gambling taxes last year, I found this amazing tool called taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai) that really helped me figure out my gambling deductions. I was in a similar situation where I had some big wins that got reported but was overall down for the year. The tool analyzed my records and helped me understand exactly what I could claim as losses to offset my reported winnings. It even helped me organize my documentation in case of an audit. Much better than trying to sort through all the confusing IRS language myself!

0 coins

Does it actually work with gambling stuff specifically? I tried TurboTax last year and felt like it was really confusing for reporting my poker winnings.

0 coins

NebulaNomad

•

I'm curious about this. I've been to multiple casinos throughout the year and have player cards at each. Does this tool help consolidate all that information or do I need to do that manually first?

0 coins

It definitely works for gambling tax situations - that's actually one of the specific issues it handles really well. It breaks down the requirements in plain English and helps you understand what documentation you need for different types of gambling income. For multiple casinos and player cards, it provides a template for consolidating all your gambling activity across different venues. You'll need to gather your win/loss statements from each casino, but the tool guides you through organizing everything properly to maximize your legitimate deductions.

0 coins

NebulaNomad

•

Just wanted to follow up about taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai) - I decided to give it a try after my last comment and wow, what a lifesaver! I had win/loss statements from 4 different casinos plus some horse racing tickets I'd kept, and it guided me through documenting everything properly. I was able to offset about $6,800 in reported slot wins with my losses, which saved me a ton in taxes. The best part was how it helped me create an "audit-proof" file with all my documentation organized exactly how the IRS would want to see it. Definitely worth checking out if you're dealing with gambling tax issues!

0 coins

Javier Garcia

•

I had a similar issue last year and spent WEEKS trying to get someone at the IRS to clarify the rules about gambling losses. Kept getting disconnected or waiting for hours. Finally found Claimyr (https://claimyr.com) which got me through to an actual IRS agent in about 20 minutes. There's a video showing how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c The agent walked me through exactly how to document my gambling sessions and confirmed I could offset my winnings with losses as long as I had proper documentation. Saved me so much stress and potentially thousands in taxes I didn't actually owe!

0 coins

Emma Taylor

•

How does this actually work? Is it like paying to skip the line at the IRS? I didn't even know that was possible.

0 coins

Yeah right. No way this actually works. I've tried calling the IRS dozens of times about my gambling losses and it's impossible to get through. Sounds like a scam to me.

0 coins

Javier Garcia

•

It's not about skipping the line - they use technology to monitor the IRS phone queues and call repeatedly until they get through, then they call you and connect you. It's completely legitimate. No scam at all - I was extremely skeptical too! The service simply does the frustrating part (getting through the phone system) for you. Once connected, you're talking directly to an actual IRS agent just like if you'd called yourself. The difference is you don't waste hours redialing and waiting on hold.

0 coins

I have to eat my words. After posting my skeptical comment, I was desperate enough to try Claimyr and it actually worked. Got through to an IRS agent in about 15 minutes who explained exactly how to handle my gambling situation. Turns out I was documenting things all wrong - I was just keeping win/loss statements but not tracking sessions properly. The agent explained I need to track each gambling session separately (date, location, type of gambling, starting/ending amounts). This makes a huge difference if you ever get audited. Can't believe I actually got clear answers instead of waiting on hold for eternity.

0 coins

Don't forget there are state tax implications too! I learned this the hard way. Even if you can offset all your gambling winnings with losses on your federal return, some states don't allow gambling loss deductions at all, and others have different rules. For example, I live in Massachusetts and they don't allow ANY gambling loss deductions, so I had to pay state tax on all my reported winnings even though I had enough losses to offset them federally. Check your state tax laws!

0 coins

Does this apply to all gambling or just casino stuff? I do mostly sports betting and fantasy sports now that it's legal in my state.

0 coins

It applies to all types of gambling - casino games, sports betting, fantasy sports, horse racing, lottery, etc. Each state has its own rules for how different types of gambling are taxed. For sports betting specifically, check if your state has special rules. Some states tax sports betting winnings at different rates than other gambling winnings. And with fantasy sports, make sure you're clear on whether your state classifies it as gambling or a game of skill, as that can affect taxation.

0 coins

CosmosCaptain

•

This whole thing is why I stopped playing slots and switched to poker. With poker, if you're a professional player, you can file a Schedule C and deduct your losses against your winnings as business expenses, plus deduct travel expenses, tournament fees, etc. Much better tax situation if you're serious about gambling. The catch is you have to prove to the IRS that you're approaching poker as a business trying to make a profit, not just as recreation. That means keeping detailed records, playing consistently, and treating it like a business.

0 coins

That's interesting about poker, but I'm definitely just a recreational player. Do you think it's worth tracking every single session even for a casual player? It seems like so much work.

0 coins

One more tip: if you use a player's card at casinos, you can request an annual win/loss statement that shows your total action for the year. BUT these statements alone aren't enough for the IRS. You still need your own session log showing dates, times, and amounts. The win/loss statement supports your claims but isn't sufficient documentation by itself. I learned this from my tax guy after getting audited last year over $12k in slot winnings. The IRS actually threw out half my losses because I couldn't prove they were from the same year as my winnings. Now I keep a detailed gambling diary with dates and screenshots of my starting/ending balances.

0 coins

Kai Rivera

•

This is such a frustrating situation that so many gamblers face! You're absolutely right that the tax system seems backwards - you can literally lose money overall but still owe taxes on your wins. Here's what I've learned from dealing with this myself: Yes, casinos report the full amount of your winnings (not just profit) on W-2G forms. So your $1200 slot win gets reported as $1200 in income, even though you only profited $1100. The good news is you CAN deduct your gambling losses, but only if you itemize deductions and only up to the amount of your winnings. So in your example, if you lost $1500 total but won $1200, you could deduct $1200 in losses (not the full $1500) to completely offset your reported winnings. The tricky part is that you need to keep meticulous records of ALL your gambling activity - not just the wins that generated W-2Gs. I use a simple phone app to log every casino visit with start/end amounts, dates, and locations. Also save your player's card statements and any betting tickets. Since you mentioned you've probably lost more than you've won this year, you should be able to offset those W-2G winnings completely if you have proper documentation. Just make sure to work with a tax professional who understands gambling taxes - it's worth the investment to avoid overpaying!

0 coins

Jamal Brown

•

This is really helpful! I'm in a similar boat - had a couple big wins early in the year but have been losing more lately. What kind of phone app do you use to track your sessions? I've been trying to remember to write things down but keep forgetting, especially when I'm caught up in the moment of playing. Also, when you say "player's card statements" - do all casinos provide these automatically or do you have to request them? I have cards at a few different places but I've never really paid attention to getting statements from them.

0 coins

@Jamal Brown For tracking apps, I personally use a simple notes app on my phone, but there are some gambling-specific apps like Poker "Income Bankroll Tracker that" work well for any type of gambling not (just poker .)The key is finding something you ll'actually use consistently. For player s'card statements, most casinos will provide them but you usually have to request them - they don t'send them automatically. You can typically request them online through the casino s'website, at the player s'club desk, or by calling their customer service. I d'recommend requesting annual statements from all the casinos where you have cards, especially before tax season. One tip: set a phone reminder to log your session right when you cash out, before you leave the casino. I used to forget all the time until I made it part of my routine. Also, take a photo of your cash-out ticket - it s'backup documentation and helps jog your memory later when you re'doing your taxes.

0 coins

Cass Green

•

I went through this exact same nightmare last year! Had a $2,500 jackpot on a slot machine in February (got the W-2G) but ended up losing about $3,200 total for the year. I was panicking thinking I'd owe taxes on money I didn't actually keep. The key thing that saved me was keeping detailed records of every casino visit. I started using a simple spreadsheet with columns for date, casino, money in, money out, and net result. Even tracked the smaller sessions where I might have won $50 or lost $100 - it all adds up. When I filed my taxes, I was able to itemize and deduct $2,500 in gambling losses (up to my winnings amount) which completely offset that W-2G. Ended up owing $0 in taxes on gambling despite that big reported win. My advice: Start tracking everything NOW if you haven't already. Get win/loss statements from every casino where you have a player's card. Keep all your betting slips, cash-out tickets, ATM receipts from casinos, everything. The IRS can be really picky about gambling loss documentation, so over-document rather than under-document. Also, don't forget to factor in whether itemizing vs. standard deduction makes sense for your overall tax situation. Sometimes even with gambling losses, the standard deduction might still be better depending on your other deductions.

0 coins

Jabari-Jo

•

This is exactly the kind of detailed advice I needed to hear! I'm in a very similar situation - had a big slot win early in the year but I'm pretty sure I'm down overall. Your spreadsheet idea is brilliant and so much simpler than some of the complex tracking methods I've seen suggested. Quick question about the win/loss statements from casinos - do they typically show your net results or do they break down wins and losses separately? I'm wondering if I need to supplement those statements with my own detailed session logs or if the casino statements alone might be sufficient documentation for the IRS. Also, when you say you "over-documented," what specific things did you keep beyond the obvious stuff like W-2Gs and cash-out tickets? I want to make sure I'm not missing anything important that could help my case if I ever get audited.

0 coins

IRS AI

Expert Assistant
Secure

Powered by Claimyr AI

T
I
+
20,095 users helped today